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Title: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on August 11, 2014, 10:00:36 PM
Alright guys, I saw a video thinking he could be in khans and this is what I think. He resembles the rug guy in the teaser, rg ish with snow that resembles blue;) and he looks like the khans of tarkir style art. And read this about how he had to do with dragons etc: http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Ramaz

Anyway, thoughts?
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on August 11, 2014, 11:21:44 PM
It could happen. I'm gonna assume he serves bolas. Do we know how sarkhan became affiliated with bolas? Ramaz could be the first encounter
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: rarehuntertay on August 12, 2014, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on August 11, 2014, 11:21:44 PM
It could happen. I'm gonna assume he serves bolas. Do we know how sarkhan became affiliated with bolas? Ramaz could be the first encounter
Rakka Mar introduced him to Lord Bolas
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: imthelolrus on August 12, 2014, 03:04:35 PM
Would seem likely IMO since he's affiliated with Zendikar it provides us with the perfect transition into the next block when we return to fetchlands --err Zendikar
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 12, 2014, 03:24:28 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on August 12, 2014, 03:04:35 PM
Would seem likely IMO since he's affiliated with Zendikar it provides us with the perfect transition into the next block when we return to fetchlands --err Zendikar
Yeah, it seems all roads lead to Zendikar.
Gideon-came to Ravnica to find some superfriends and take down the Eldrazi;
Kiora-came to Theros to find seamonsters to fight the Eldrazi;
Nissa-Also freed Eldrazi? Smashed the Hedron containing the titans.
Sorin-originally shut in the Eldrazi, presumably wants to shut them back in;
Ugin-inside of Sarkhan's head (who is on Tarkir) and helped stop the Eldrazi;
Jace-helped unleash Eldrazi and has been asked to return if he learns anything useful;
Chandra-unleashed the Eldrazi......
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: rarehuntertay on August 13, 2014, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 12, 2014, 03:24:28 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on August 12, 2014, 03:04:35 PM
Would seem likely IMO since he's affiliated with Zendikar it provides us with the perfect transition into the next block when we return to fetchlands --err Zendikar
Yeah, it seems all roads lead to Zendikar.
Gideon-came to Ravnica to find some superfriends and take down the Eldrazi;
Kiora-came to Theros to find seamonsters to fight the Eldrazi;
Nissa-Also freed Eldrazi? Smashed the Hedron containing the titans.
Sorin-originally shut in the Eldrazi, presumably wants to shut them back in;
Ugin-inside of Sarkhan's head (who is on Tarkir) and helped stop the Eldrazi;
Jace-helped unleash Eldrazi and has been asked to return if he learns anything useful;
Chandra-unleashed the Eldrazi......
Nicol Bolas... masterminded the plot to release the Eldrazi
For what purpose, only known to him...
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 13, 2014, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 13, 2014, 12:32:33 PM
So we need to kill bolas first, otherwise we'll be walking right into his trap.
YES! Duel Decks {Storm Crow} vs. {Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker}!!!! We all know who would win....
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: rarehuntertay on August 13, 2014, 12:45:46 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 13, 2014, 12:32:33 PM
So we need to kill bolas first, otherwise we'll be walking right into his trap.
Maybe it's a trap. Nicol Bolas goes back into time... Brings forth the other Elder Dragons... And Yawgmoth gets resurrected!!!
Can you imagine a compleated Eldrazi???
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: Destore117 on August 14, 2014, 11:09:36 AM
Who is Yawgmoth?

And I'd picture Nicol Bolas bringing the dragons back, killing/enslaving them, and or just absorbing them into himself for unstoppable godlike powers.
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: Spikepit on August 15, 2014, 11:58:30 AM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 14, 2014, 11:09:36 AM
Who is Yawgmoth?
*gasp*

HEATHEN!
BLASPHEMY!

Lol, only one of the most crucial Antagonists in MtG history!

Here: http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Yawgmoth

Also type his name into the card filter and see all the Yawgmoth references. 
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: Destore117 on August 15, 2014, 12:40:45 PM
Woah...I thought Emrakul and Bolas were bad ._.
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: rarehuntertay on August 15, 2014, 01:41:56 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 15, 2014, 12:40:45 PM
Woah...I thought Emrakul and Bolas were bad ._.
I have created three Yawgmoth cards, depicted him from what he did in Phyrexia, to the battle between Urza and Gerrard (where Yawgmoth stripped  Urza of all PW powers) and the final battle as a death cloud...
If Bolas and Yawgmoth team up...
Ands there's more info on him on mtgsalvation if you look up Phyrexia
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: Destore117 on August 15, 2014, 01:45:49 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on August 15, 2014, 01:41:56 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 15, 2014, 12:40:45 PM
Woah...I thought Emrakul and Bolas were bad ._.
I have created three Yawgmoth cards, depicted him from what he did in Phyrexia, to the battle between Urza and Gerrard (where Yawgmoth stripped  Urza of all PW powers) and the final battle as a death cloud...
If Bolas and Yawgmoth team up...
Ands there's more info on him on mtgsalvation if you look up Phyrexia

So wait...Urza's powerstone eyes were what made Karn a Planeswalker?
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: rarehuntertay on August 15, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 15, 2014, 01:45:49 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on August 15, 2014, 01:41:56 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 15, 2014, 12:40:45 PM
Woah...I thought Emrakul and Bolas were bad ._.
I have created three Yawgmoth cards, depicted him from what he did in Phyrexia, to the battle between Urza and Gerrard (where Yawgmoth stripped  Urza of all PW powers) and the final battle as a death cloud...
If Bolas and Yawgmoth team up...
Ands there's more info on him on mtgsalvation if you look up Phyrexia

So wait...Urza's powerstone eyes were what made Karn a Planeswalker?
Yes, because those stones were the Might stone and Weak stone, which contained the essence of Glacian, who had a planeswalker spark that never ignited
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: Destore117 on August 15, 2014, 01:55:49 PM
So...did Urza die when he got his eyes removed?
Sorry for my noob questions :/ haven't read nearly enough into Magic's in game history
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: rarehuntertay on August 15, 2014, 04:31:53 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 15, 2014, 01:55:49 PM
So...did Urza die when he got his eyes removed?
Sorry for my noob questions :/ haven't read nearly enough into Magic's in game history
No, Urza died upon the final activation of the Legacy Weapon.
In his fight with Gerrard, Urza was beheaded and was still alive. Do you think removing his eyes would do anything more? Lol. But that just shows you how powerful oldwalkers were before the Mending. They were basically gods. Nearly all powerful, nearly immortal... Bolas is trying to get back to that...
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: LordJanova on August 15, 2014, 04:35:19 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on August 15, 2014, 04:31:53 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 15, 2014, 01:55:49 PM
So...did Urza die when he got his eyes removed?
Sorry for my noob questions :/ haven't read nearly enough into Magic's in game history
No, Urza died upon the final activation of the Legacy Weapon.
In his fight with Gerrard, Urza was beheaded and was still alive. Do you think removing his eyes would do anything more? Lol. But that just shows you how powerful oldwalkers were before the Mending. They were basically gods. Nearly all powerful, nearly immortal... Bolas is trying to get back to that...
I just had a crazy fanboy moment. What if when we return to zendikar bolas DOES get back to that and they reprint him with the power of an old walker? What if he like kills the eldrazi and steals their power to make it his own and so he has eldrazi themed abilities? That would be awesome, but of course it's all wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: Destore117 on August 15, 2014, 05:02:58 PM
His ultimate as is is pretty Eldrazi-ish
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: rarehuntertay on August 15, 2014, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 15, 2014, 05:02:58 PM
His ultimate as is is pretty Eldrazi-ish
I think his ultimate is pretty toned down... Sure it's good, and it's that powerful, but imagine his ultimate if he hadn't lost all that power from the Mending...
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: Destore117 on August 15, 2014, 05:30:17 PM
^ I'd...rather not ._.

(Think of his mana cost if his ultimate was OldWalker.)

It would be nice to see a new Nicol Bolas though, seeing as we've only gotten {Nicol Bolas} and {Nicol Bolas,Planeswalker} plus it'd be really fun to have decks using all 3 Nicol Bolas cuz why not?
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 15, 2014, 06:18:11 PM
There's going to be a new Nicol Bolas. I'm also expecting Ugin sometime soon. Nicol Bolas as is is pretty badass. If he absorbed Eldrazi ect...

{Nicol Bolas, Transcended} {8}{R}{R}{R}{B}{B}{B{U}{U}{U}

+ 5 Gain control of target creature or Planeswalker.

+ 3 Destroy target noncreature nonland permanent.

-10 Target player discards his or her hand and loses life equal to the number of cards discarded this way + 3. You draw cards and gain life equal to the life lost and cards discarded this way.

- 35 gain control of all permanents target player controls. That players life total becomes 5 and can't attack you or Planeswalkers you control.

If {Nicol Bolas, Transcended} would be put into your graveyard, from anywhere, shuffle it into your library instead.

                                                                      18

+5 fits his manipulations of various other Planeswalkers.

+3 is close to the one printed on {Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker}

-10 is close to {Cruel Ultimatium} and {Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker}'s ultimate.

-35 is pretty much game. In Nicol Bolas fashion.

Maybe if the numbers were lower with the sameish CMC he'd be printable. I doubt it. Maybe +1, 0, -6, -12 starting 8.
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: Ub Nixillus on August 15, 2014, 08:35:41 PM
Ok total newb here. I've tried looking into how to beef up my magic history and have gotten extremely lost as to where to start and where to go. Can someone suggest a starting point and a where to go after that? I've looked at the wiki and it was quite daunting as to the actual beginning. Much appreciated!
Title: Re: Ramaz in khans!
Post by: Munchlax on August 15, 2014, 09:05:57 PM
Quote from: Ub Nixillus on August 15, 2014, 08:35:41 PM
Ok total newb here. I've tried looking into how to beef up my magic history and have gotten extremely lost as to where to start and where to go. Can someone suggest a starting point and a where to go after that? I've looked at the wiki and it was quite daunting as to the actual beginning. Much appreciated!
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