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Title: Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise
Post by: NinjaGamingMc on August 09, 2014, 04:09:59 AM

Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise

60 cards, 0 sideboard


4 {Temple of Enlightenment}
4 {Temple of Silence}
7 {Island}
5 {Swamp}
4 {Temple of Deceit}
3 {Plains}

27 lands


2 {Prognostic Sphinx}
2 {Indulgent Tormentor}

4 creatures


2 {Hero's Downfall}
4 {Banishing Light}
4 {Dissolve}
4 {Divination}
2 {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}
2 {Jace, the Living Guildpact}
2 {Jace's Ingenuity}
2 {Bile Blight}
3 {Stain the Mind}
4 {Cancel}

29 other spells


Sideboard
Title: Re: Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise
Post by: Silent1236 on August 09, 2014, 07:34:06 AM
{Dissipate} is strictly better than {Cancel}, but I would almost say some mix of {Negate} and {Essence Scatter} would be better than eight three mana counters.
Title: Re: Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on August 09, 2014, 09:44:41 AM
Stain the mind is a sb card, honestly we need a good sweeper if we want this to work. I could see a 1 color sweeper that's not affiliated with a wedge printed, or there will probabky be a 3-4 color sweeper with a coc 4-5
Title: Re: Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise
Post by: Dmreiss on August 09, 2014, 12:42:03 PM
Essence scatter rotates out soon. He was wanting this for post rotation. But I agree he needs some cheaper removal.
Title: Re: Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise
Post by: Dmreiss on August 09, 2014, 12:43:42 PM
With so few creatures any convoke will not be worth it. {stain the mind}.
Title: Re: Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise
Post by: NinjaGamingMc on August 10, 2014, 09:16:58 PM
Are there any board wipes that'll survive rotation?
Title: Re: Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise
Post by: SoshiGanrou on August 11, 2014, 12:06:12 PM
Quote from: NinjaGamingMc on August 10, 2014, 09:16:58 PM
Are there any board wipes that'll survive rotation?

With the way things are currently without seeing khans {drown in sorrow} will be control's "board wipe" won't do much good in the late game except for scry but still does some work for now that isn't 7+ mana for destruction. Now we do have {ætherspouts} and that will be our "board wipe" and put the creatures on the bottom. Just will mean for green mages that {chord of calling} will have more targets.
Title: Re: Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise
Post by: Foreplay0333 on August 11, 2014, 11:31:28 PM
We do have a very expensive board wipe in  {Fated Retribution} don't forget
Title: Re: Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise
Post by: Thatoneguy2409 on August 13, 2014, 08:40:37 PM
Depending on the deck your playing, mass calcify could be used as a boardwipe. Running the elspeth you'll be saving the soldiers
Title: Re: Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise
Post by: DrainCleaner on August 14, 2014, 11:31:11 AM
My advice - wait till kahns is sp
Title: Re: Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise
Post by: DrainCleaner on August 14, 2014, 11:31:34 AM
My advice - wait till kahns is spoiled to finalize any sort of post rotation list.
Title: Re: Post Rotation Esper Control, Need Advise
Post by: DylanW18 on August 14, 2014, 01:58:34 PM
{Ætherspouts} is AMAZING. They swing with 4 creatures, you either stop their draws, or they tuck. Value.