Is there a {Tunnel Vision} Clash EDH deck?
More traditional choices use {Reito Lantern} and {Vendilion Clique} to tuck something. I also use it as a Tutor sometimes, if I already have a way to recycle my graveyard later on.
I don't know if I've seen that in an EDH, but it'd be nice to combo with an instant that tucks an opponent's card to the bottom of their library.
I really like running {Tunnel Vision} plus {Hinder}.
{Hinder}, {Spell Crumple}, {Condemn}, {AEtherspouts}, {Bant Charm}, {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} can all get you to know what's on the bottom of their library.
Quote from: Remillo on August 07, 2014, 04:30:58 PM
{Hinder}, {Spell Crumple}, {Condemn}, {AEtherspouts}, {Bant Charm}, {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} can all get you to know what's on the bottom of their library.
Is JMS legal?
Quote from: Destore117 on August 07, 2014, 04:33:08 PM
Quote from: Remillo on August 07, 2014, 04:30:58 PM
{Hinder}, {Spell Crumple}, {Condemn}, {AEtherspouts}, {Bant Charm}, {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} can all get you to know what's on the bottom of their library.
Is JMS legal?
Totally. He's actually pretty terrible in Multiplayer.
Quote from: Remillo on August 07, 2014, 04:34:13 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 07, 2014, 04:33:08 PM
Quote from: Remillo on August 07, 2014, 04:30:58 PM
{Hinder}, {Spell Crumple}, {Condemn}, {AEtherspouts}, {Bant Charm}, {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} can all get you to know what's on the bottom of their library.
Is JMS legal?
Totally. He's actually pretty terrible in Multiplayer.
Okay lol let's not get too carried away now...He may not have anywhere near the same power that he has in non-multiplayer formats, but he is still far from being "terrible".
Quote from: Gocougs509 on August 07, 2014, 05:06:42 PM
Quote from: Remillo on August 07, 2014, 04:34:13 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 07, 2014, 04:33:08 PM
Quote from: Remillo on August 07, 2014, 04:30:58 PM
{Hinder}, {Spell Crumple}, {Condemn}, {AEtherspouts}, {Bant Charm}, {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} can all get you to know what's on the bottom of their library.
Is JMS legal?
Totally. He's actually pretty terrible in Multiplayer.
Okay lol let's not get too carried away now...He may not have anywhere near the same power that he has in non-multiplayer formats, but he is still far from being "terrible".
Remillo is right, most planeswalkers aren't very good to in multiplayer, they are sorcery speed and their effect on the game diminishes as the game adds more players.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 07, 2014, 05:09:51 PM
Quote from: Gocougs509 on August 07, 2014, 05:06:42 PM
Quote from: Remillo on August 07, 2014, 04:34:13 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 07, 2014, 04:33:08 PM
Quote from: Remillo on August 07, 2014, 04:30:58 PM
{Hinder}, {Spell Crumple}, {Condemn}, {AEtherspouts}, {Bant Charm}, {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} can all get you to know what's on the bottom of their library.
Is JMS legal?
Totally. He's actually pretty terrible in Multiplayer.
Okay lol let's not get too carried away now...He may not have anywhere near the same power that he has in non-multiplayer formats, but he is still far from being "terrible".
Remillo is right, most planeswalkers aren't very good to in multiplayer, they are sorcery speed and their effect on the game diminishes as the game adds more players.
"Aren't very good" and "are pretty terrible" are two completely different things. JtMs (along with many other planeswalkers) is still EXTREMELY versatile, and he's a win con on a stick!
I know that one of you will try and follow this up with a comment similar to this "If your play group lets you get to that ultimate they aren't very good...", so let me refute that for you guys before you even get the chance to. There is a time and place for everything, and if you are good about knowing when to play your planeswalkers, you should be able to protect them fairly well. In my {grand arbiter augustine IV} edh deck, I've ult-ed JtMs a few times now. And when I do, it always kills someone. When you have many counterspells and board wipes to protect him with, it's not at all impossible to do. Hell, jace even helps you get to those precious spells that you might need to protect him.
Edh is a format full of {time warp} effects and {wrath of god} effects. I understand that planeswalkers aren't AMAZING, or even GREAT in multiplayer environments where they can be focused. But to say that the mind sculptor is TERRIBLE? That is just plain wrong.
Condemn commander
Quicken
Tunnel vision naming commander
Tormods crypt ;)