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Title: The Burner
Post by: TheRedRabble on July 28, 2014, 10:24:13 PM

The Burner

75 cards, 15 sideboard


2 {Battlefield Forge}
4 {Sacred Foundry}
4 {Temple of Triumph}
10 {Mountain}

20 lands


4 {Ash Zealot}
4 {Spark Trooper}
4 {Guttersnipe}
4 {Chandra's Phoenix}

16 creatures


4 {Searing Blood}
4 {Magma Spray}
4 {Boros Charm}
4 {Magma Jet}
4 {Warleader's Helix}
4 {Lightning Strike}

24 other spells


Sideboard

4 {Chained to the Rocks}
1 {Blind Obedience}
4 {Shock}
2 {Deicide}
4 {Skullcrack}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:
I whipped this up the other night , pika tested a friend and l basically walked all over him with. Looking for sideboard suggestions too please
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: Mattao19 on July 28, 2014, 11:01:27 PM
Not SB but I'd MB 4 {Eidolon of the Great Revel} I'd take out 2 Spark Trooper and 2 guttys for them
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: TheRedRabble on July 28, 2014, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 28, 2014, 11:01:27 PM
Not SB but I'd MB 4 {Eidolon of the Great Revel} I'd take out 2 Spark Trooper and 2 guttys for them

Aren't you dealing urself damage this way??
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: griffin131 on July 28, 2014, 11:21:02 PM
Yes, but life is just another resource. Who cares if you're at 20 life when he dies? 
If you can't kill him faster than your Eidolon kills you, it's not Eidolon's problem.
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: Mattao19 on July 29, 2014, 12:57:50 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on July 28, 2014, 11:21:02 PM
Yes, but life is just another resource. Who cares if you're at 20 life when he dies? 
If you can't kill him faster than your Eidolon kills you, it's not Eidolon's problem.

This^^ there's a reason why legacy and modern burn run Eidolon
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: TheRedRabble on July 30, 2014, 07:56:40 AM
U don't have Eidolon or I would put him in
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: Anoobass on July 30, 2014, 08:58:34 AM
How about {satyr firedancer} sided?
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: TheRedRabble on July 30, 2014, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Anoobass on July 30, 2014, 08:58:34 AM
How about {satyr firedancer} sided?

He's like another guttersnipe almost
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: MuggyWuggy on July 30, 2014, 04:24:45 PM
Nah he's not at all

Satyr saves your burn for player, rather than their creatures

I prefer to boros burn as a boros charm to a players face with Satyr Firedancer out will instantly remove a stormbreath dragon or blood baron, and you still dealt 4 dmg to the player

Guttersnipe is wonderful but I feel more so for a control build, he's really a 5 drop in theory - you don't wanna bring him out t3 just to have him be removed instantly and with burn: you don't want a long game
Once a life gain happens, like sphinx rev or thune, it gets hard to burn them down again
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: TheRedRabble on July 31, 2014, 12:53:13 AM
Play tested with the same friend again tonight, we talked about eidolon but he says he doesn't fit the deck, in his view
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: Mattao19 on July 31, 2014, 01:03:25 AM
Quote from: New2MTG on July 31, 2014, 12:53:13 AM
Play tested with the same friend again tonight, we talked about eidolon but he says he doesn't fit the deck, in his view

Well considering every mtgtop8 deck in Standard Modern and Legacy runs a playset of him I'd say that he is wrong lol trust me/us eidolon of great revel is why burn is so good right now
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: particle on July 31, 2014, 12:04:16 PM
kinda surprised theres no {burning-tree emissary}s here considering this is called the burner. plus they can be mini {shriekmaw}s by letting you cast a {lightning strike} or {magma jet} for free.
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: Mattao19 on July 31, 2014, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: particle on July 31, 2014, 12:04:16 PM
kinda surprised theres no {burning-tree emissary}s here considering this is called the burner. plus they can be mini {shriekmaw}s by letting you cast a {lightning strike} or {magma jet} for free.

Unless he's going Red Devotion it's not worth it the reason why shriek maw is good is bc it's one card not 2
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: particle on July 31, 2014, 03:22:29 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 31, 2014, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: particle on July 31, 2014, 12:04:16 PM
kinda surprised theres no {burning-tree emissary}s here considering this is called the burner. plus they can be mini {shriekmaw}s by letting you cast a {lightning strike} or {magma jet} for free.

Unless he's going Red Devotion it's not worth it the reason why shriek maw is good is bc it's one card not 2

thats why i called it mini shriekmaw. certainly not the same but can do the job and still gives you a blocker. free spells are normally pretty powerful. i would test it.
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: TheRedRabble on August 01, 2014, 12:11:32 AM
Ok ok ok I know you guys suggest eidolon but maybe it's not for meta in my area , I updated with SB but I dought I'll use my SB but I'm trying it at my FNM
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: Mattao19 on August 01, 2014, 01:23:18 AM
Quote from: New2MTG on August 01, 2014, 12:11:32 AM
Ok ok ok I know you guys suggest eidolon but maybe it's not for meta in my area , I updated with SB but I dought I'll use my SB but I'm trying it at my FNM

Please trust us lol the card is a 4 of in freaking legacy!! It's OP as **** lol trust us and run the card it's good in every meta bc all of a sudden even if they dissolve your Boros charm they take 2 still
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: Mattao19 on August 01, 2014, 10:37:55 AM
I l ow lol but it's my favourite Therosian card!!! So good :P
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: DrainCleaner on August 01, 2014, 11:39:32 AM
-4 guildgate
+4 {Battlefield Forge}
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: TheRedRabble on August 01, 2014, 12:39:17 PM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on August 01, 2014, 11:39:32 AM
-4 guildgate
+4 {Battlefield Forge}

Once l get the forges I will do that but for now guildgates will do
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: TheRedRabble on August 05, 2014, 10:26:11 PM
Added to battlefield forges still need two

I want to add stoke the flames any suggestion what to remove
Title: Re: The Burner
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on August 05, 2014, 10:28:03 PM
Quote from: New2MTG on August 05, 2014, 10:26:11 PM
Added to battlefield forges still need two

I want to add stoke the flames any suggestion what to remove
Gutter snipe is tooo slow destroys your tempo, and not what you want when you play against mono black etc

Edit:  it makes you hold your burn until turn 4, and then they just kill it before you even get to upset and you have wasted several turns. Young pyromancer is strictly better because its in a turn ealier etc