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Title: Divining Top
Post by: Maxpayne03 on July 23, 2014, 06:35:43 PM
 {Sensei's Divining Top}
{Goblin Welder}

If I use divining top to draw card, then I use welder to swap the top for an artifact, do I still draw a card from divining top?
Title: Re: Divining Top
Post by: particle on July 23, 2014, 07:15:37 PM
sure do. the draw is not dependant on putting {sensei's divining top} on top of library. if it was, it would be written similiarly to, "put sensei's diving top on top of your library. if you do, draw a card." otherwise the draw is not dependant on putting the top back on the top of library.
Title: Re: Divining Top
Post by: Maxpayne03 on July 23, 2014, 08:11:07 PM
Thanks. If my target is another top, the activated ability is on the stack, will it look for legal targets named top to put on library and affect my new top?
Title: Re: Divining Top
Post by: particle on July 23, 2014, 08:37:38 PM
nope. only that permanent. other tops will be unharmed.
Title: Re: Divining Top
Post by: particle on July 23, 2014, 09:07:03 PM
Quote from: Taysby on July 23, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
That is incorrect.  You missed the "if all targets are still legal as this spell resolves". If you draw a card, you have to do the whole effect before anything else can happen, so it would be on top.  Then the target for the welder would be illegal, so it would fizzle.

ok, so i think you were reading his question literally and didnt see what he was trying to say. i think what he meant was: activate top's draw ability, with an empty stack. in response to draw ability, activate {goblin welder}. switch top with something else. welder ability resolves. then draw ability resolves.
Title: Re: Divining Top
Post by: Anoobass on July 24, 2014, 12:11:53 AM
Quote from: Taysby on July 23, 2014, 10:04:04 PM
Oh!  My apologies.  But why would you want to kill your own top?

He asked assuming he was trading with another top in the GY, giving him free draws.