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Title: Trait Doctering on Favored Hoplite
Post by: Mattao19 on July 18, 2014, 08:46:11 PM
I was watching SCGWOR and a guy ran {Trait Doctering} and {Favored Hoplite} how is this legal?
Title: Re: Trait Doctering on Favored Hoplite
Post by: griffin131 on July 18, 2014, 08:47:42 PM
{Trait Doctoring} doesn't require the target permanent to have a color word on it. It just requires a target permanent.
Title: Re: Trait Doctering on Favored Hoplite
Post by: Mattao19 on July 18, 2014, 08:48:25 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on July 18, 2014, 08:47:42 PM
{Trait Doctoring} doesn't require the target permanent to have a color word on it. It just requires a target permanent.

Really? Hm thanks :D
Title: Re: Trait Doctering on Favored Hoplite
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 18, 2014, 08:52:41 PM
This is very confusing. Do you mean he Ciphered {Trait Doctoring} onto it? Or did he somehow change it? Ciphering, legal. Changing, not legal, there's nothing to change.
Title: Re: Trait Doctering on Favored Hoplite
Post by: Mattao19 on July 18, 2014, 08:53:30 PM
He targeted his Hoplite and then ciphers it to the FH
Title: Re: Trait Doctering on Favored Hoplite
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 18, 2014, 08:56:30 PM
As far as I'm aware that'd just fizzle the first casting of the spell. I don't think that'd stop the cipher but I don't see how it'd affect the creature at all.
Title: Re: Trait Doctering on Favored Hoplite
Post by: particle on July 18, 2014, 10:06:11 PM
from the gatherer:
4/15/2013   You can target any permanent with Trait Doctoring, including one with no color words or basic land types on it.

the permanent doesnt need a color word. hes just getting a free heroic trigger for two mana.
Title: Re: Trait Doctering on Favored Hoplite
Post by: griffin131 on July 18, 2014, 10:39:28 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 18, 2014, 08:56:30 PM
As far as I'm aware that'd just fizzle the first casting of the spell. I don't think that'd stop the cipher but I don't see how it'd affect the creature at all.
The spell only requires a target permanent. The fact that the spell does nothing doesn't matter - all targets are satisfied, spell resolves.
Title: Re: Trait Doctering on Favored Hoplite
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 19, 2014, 03:46:49 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on July 18, 2014, 10:39:28 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 18, 2014, 08:56:30 PM
As far as I'm aware that'd just fizzle the first casting of the spell. I don't think that'd stop the cipher but I don't see how it'd affect the creature at all.
The spell only requires a target permanent. The fact that the spell does nothing doesn't matter - all targets are satisfied, spell resolves.

Okay. Makes sense.