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Title: Return vs Proclamation
Post by: Ekann1 on July 15, 2014, 10:16:45 PM
Which is better? What do you guys think?
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Title: Re: Return vs Proclamation
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 15, 2014, 10:29:09 PM
I'd say Return
Title: Re: Return vs Proclamation
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on July 15, 2014, 10:29:19 PM
Proclamation is much better unless your playing a deck that Ramps with something like sylvan caryatid, but paying 5 mana for what the 3 mana card can do is pretty bad in my opinion.
Title: Re: Return vs Proclamation
Post by: fj76ts4 on July 15, 2014, 10:29:24 PM
I think the main selling point of proc is that 1) it's repeatable and 2) it's generally uncounterable unless they have squelch, voidslime, or trickbind (in modern).
Title: Re: Return vs Proclamation
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 15, 2014, 10:31:45 PM
Return has convoke and can hit more things. Its flexiblity makes it better IMO, plus paying 6 to forecast is unreasonable in most decks that want to return 1 drops.
Title: Re: Return vs Proclamation
Post by: Ekann1 on July 15, 2014, 10:52:40 PM
I think it's the difference between 1 vs 2 drops and cheaper in the short term vs getting "better" as the game goes on (more mana for X)
Title: Re: Return vs Proclamation
Post by: Langku on July 15, 2014, 11:54:40 PM
From an aggro creature / weenies perspective(and I feel like both cards are intended for those purposes) I have to go with the Proclamation. {Return to the Ranks} suggests using multiple weenies to undo a disastrous loss of creatures. There are two reasons I can think of that make it a pretty bad card:
1-It's unlikely a weenie deck could even get more creatures out that late.
2-I've already lost if I haven't won with an aggro creature deck by about turn 5.