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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Savedstray on July 15, 2014, 02:19:14 PM

Title: Defang
Post by: Savedstray on July 15, 2014, 02:19:14 PM
Last night I encountered a debate of the full effects of Defang. The card reads "Prevent all damage that would be dealt by enchanted creature." The issue was that someone attempted to use a forced combat card such as 'Prey Upon' on the defanged card. My thought was that it would be an illegal play but I wanted a second opinion.
Title: Re: Defang
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on July 15, 2014, 02:38:19 PM
Quote from: Savedstray on July 15, 2014, 02:19:14 PM
Last night I encountered a debate of the full effects of {Defang}. The card reads "Prevent all damage that would be dealt by enchanted creature." The issue was that someone attempted to use a forced combat card such as '{Prey Upon}' on the defanged card. My thought was that it would be an illegal play but I wanted a second opinion.

Not an illegal play but it wouldn't do any damage during the "fight"
Title: Re: Defang
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 15, 2014, 03:10:35 PM
The fight mechanic only cares about hexproof, shroud and protection. It needs to be a legal target of the spell, it doesn't care about power or any other effects that affect the damage output of the target creatures.

{Defang} would cause the creature to deal no damage. This also works against things like {Guttersnipe} and {Vithian Stinger}. A creature enchanted with something like {Power of Fire} would also deal no damage. It also shuts down infect, no poison or -1/-1 counters are handed out. However, it doesn't work against things like {Claim of Erebos}. The creature is not dealing /damage/ it's enchantment is causing life loss. Compare it to the wording of {Power of Fire}.

Hope this helps. {Defang} can be a sick card.
Title: Re: Defang
Post by: Savedstray on July 16, 2014, 07:30:15 PM
Thanks for the answers. I didn't think about the fact that they could stil use the attack card it would just be useless in a sense.