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Title: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on July 10, 2014, 06:46:40 PM
Let's start off with the card:
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Cost    XGG
Card Type    Creature  — Plant Hydra
P / T    0 / 0
Rarity    Rare
Card Text   
When you cast Genesis Hydra, reaveal the top X cards for your Library. You may put a nonland permanent card with converted mana cost X or less from among them onto the battlefield. Then shuffle the rest of your library.

Genesis Hydra enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters on
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At first look it looks slightly slow and or clunky. Now think again! For 7 mana you get a 5/5 the could give you cards like {storm breath}, and don't forget you can even get planeswalkers, enchantments, artifacts, etc. Even if the hydra is countered you still get your nonland permanent! This will be extremely annoying for control and a great 2 for 1! So...what do you think?



Title: Re: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 10, 2014, 06:48:43 PM
Amazing, I think this could cause RGx monsters to revert back to the original RG more devotion based deck. This is like a bad {Bloodbraid Elf}, but there is a big difference between Modern and this standard's power level.
Title: Re: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: NovusOrbis on July 10, 2014, 06:53:14 PM
Definitely a first pick draft, and it will most likely see play in standard. And who cares about the cost. I mean, you're green, mana doesn't even matter to you!
Title: Re: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on July 10, 2014, 06:53:44 PM
I'm very surprised this card is only 2 dollars on tcgplayer, and could easily go up to 5-15 if it is played in a monsters build.
Title: Re: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 10, 2014, 07:01:53 PM
Just think about how this works guys:
T1: forest, {Elvish Mystic}
T2: {Temple of Abandon}, {Burning-Tree Emissary}, {Burning-Tree Emissary}, {Magma Jet}
T3: {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}, lands generate 5, plus mystic is 6 so you cast this for 6, flipping a {Polukranos, World Eater} onto the field. Or God scenario cast {Xenagos, the Reveler} (tapping forest, temple and Mystic), plus 1 for 3 mana, Nykthos for 6, total of 7 meaning you flip {Stormbreath Dragon} onto the field.
Title: Re: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on July 10, 2014, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 10, 2014, 07:01:53 PM
Just think about how this works guys:
T1: forest, {Elvish Mystic}
T2: {Temple of Abandon}, {Burning-Tree Emissary}, {Burning-Tree Emissary}, {Magma Jet}
T3: {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}, lands generate 5, plus mystic is 6 so you cast this for 6, flipping a {Polukranos, World Eater} onto the field. Or God scenario cast {Xenagos, the Reveler} (tapping forest, temple and Mystic), plus 1 for 3 mana, Nykthos for 6, total of 7 meaning you flip {Stormbreath Dragon} onto the field.
Very powerful, I NEED to pre order this. Even if this is not played In standard for some reason dont mind spending 8 dollars on a play set of a card that could be great in even commander and casual.
Title: Re: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 10, 2014, 07:28:48 PM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on July 10, 2014, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 10, 2014, 07:01:53 PM
Just think about how this works guys:
T1: forest, {Elvish Mystic}
T2: {Temple of Abandon}, {Burning-Tree Emissary}, {Burning-Tree Emissary}, {Magma Jet}
T3: {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}, lands generate 5, plus mystic is 6 so you cast this for 6, flipping a {Polukranos, World Eater} onto the field. Or God scenario cast {Xenagos, the Reveler} (tapping forest, temple and Mystic), plus 1 for 3 mana, Nykthos for 6, total of 7 meaning you flip {Stormbreath Dragon} onto the field.
Very powerful, I NEED to pre order this. Even if this is not played In standard for some reason dont mind spending 8 dollars on a play set of a card that could be great in even commander and casual.
Yeah, Riku plays a lot of value creatures and paying even 10 to get two of these with X=6 is crazy. Oh, so for 10 mana I get two 6/6s, a {Prophet of Kruphix} and a {Keranos, God of Storms} (just two random things, obviously there are other options).
Title: Re: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on July 10, 2014, 09:09:46 PM
The copy won't be cast so it won't trigger... I think
Title: Re: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: rarehuntertay on July 10, 2014, 09:13:32 PM
Isn't genesis hydra an intro pack foil too?
Title: Re: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: fj76ts4 on July 10, 2014, 09:14:52 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on July 10, 2014, 09:13:32 PM
Isn't genesis hydra an intro pack foil too?

nope, that's {phytotitan}
Title: Re: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 10, 2014, 09:34:05 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on July 10, 2014, 09:09:46 PM
The copy won't be cast so it won't trigger... I think
:( You're right. I thought it was an ETB trigger, but I was wrong.....that makes me really sad....
Title: Re: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on July 11, 2014, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 10, 2014, 09:34:05 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on July 10, 2014, 09:09:46 PM
The copy won't be cast so it won't trigger... I think
:( You're right. I thought it was an ETB trigger, but I was wrong.....that makes me really sad....
But if it's countered you still get the trigger! Huey dont want thragtusk again, although I loved him!
Title: Re: Genesis Hydra!
Post by: particle on July 11, 2014, 12:47:17 PM
card is so bonkers in green devotion with voyaging satyr and nykthos. i might pick up a few for speculation.