I've heard that the different colors of Ultra Pro sleeves can be very different: more or less durable, etc. Could someone tell me what is the best kinda/color, and possibly post a link?
Thanks! (And before someone suggests Dragonshields they're too slippery and I have nothing to do with 30 extra sleeves)
Extra 30 sleeves is for sideboard+
I prefer kmc's
You'll only have 5 leftover
Ultrapro oranges are decent
Lime green is sturdy as hell
Just have to get this out, dragon shields are only slippery at first (as are the ultra pros), they hold up WAY better, and you save the extra 30 sleeves so when you buy another box you can sleeve another deck. With that out, I had bad luck with the black ultra pros and worse with the white. I actually have had the best luck with the pink.
Quote from: E.kann1 on July 05, 2014, 06:01:36 PM
Thanks! (And before someone suggests Dragonshields they're too slippery and I have nothing to do with 30 extra sleeves)
This right here. I feel the same way, and dragon shields do stay decently slippery even after a ton of use. I prefer ultra pro because of their feel, which is the only thing that matters really. I've never had any break on me, and even if they do who cares! They're so much cheaper I'll just buy more!
But to get back on topic, I've had the best luck so far with the bright red ones :)
Quote from: Wingnut on July 05, 2014, 06:10:55 PM
Just have to get this out, dragon shields are only slippery at first (as are the ultra pros), they hold up WAY better, and you save the extra 30 sleeves so when you buy another box you can sleeve another deck. With that out, I had bad luck with the black ultra pros and worse with the white. I actually have had the best luck with the pink.
I have a box of dragon shields for my EDH deck, so I know they aren't so slippery after use, but this is for a GP so I want to resleeve it the day of the tournament so there is no chance of a marked sleeve. I won't have a chance to deslipify them (yes, that definitely is a word...). Also I want the matte back as they are easier to hold.
The new line of KMCs apparently has backs like ultra pro but dragon shield sturdiness
I really like KMC Supers. As for Ultra Pro, green and white have served me well on Pauper decks and even an EDH
All my decks are sleeved in ultra pro white and have lasted a while, though they are really slippery
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on July 05, 2014, 07:46:06 PM
The new line of KMCs apparently has backs like ultra pro but dragon shield sturdiness
Link to a place to buy?
I've heard that the light red/pink ultra pros are very good. Anyone know anything about this?
Ultra pros are garbage. Buy kmc or dragonshields which are only slippery initially.
Quote from: NyghtHawk on July 05, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
Ultra pros are garbage. Buy kmc or dragonshields which are only slippery initially.
False. Have had dragon sheilds on one of my EDH decks for over a year and they are still slippery. Maybe it's cause I keep my hands clean? I don't really know
Dragon shields are the best! 😡
Quote from: Gocougs509 on July 05, 2014, 08:51:19 PM
Quote from: NyghtHawk on July 05, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
Ultra pros are garbage. Buy kmc or dragonshields which are only slippery initially.
False. Have had dragon sheilds on one of my EDH decks for over a year and they are still slippery. Maybe it's cause I keep my hands clean? I don't really know
I own numerous sets of shields and never do they stay slippery. Not sure why yours would. Also if you don't like the shields, go kmc.
Quote from: E.kann1 on July 05, 2014, 07:43:15 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on July 05, 2014, 06:10:55 PM
Just have to get this out, dragon shields are only slippery at first (as are the ultra pros), they hold up WAY better, and you save the extra 30 sleeves so when you buy another box you can sleeve another deck. With that out, I had bad luck with the black ultra pros and worse with the white. I actually have had the best luck with the pink.
I have a box of dragon shields for my EDH deck, so I know they aren't so slippery after use, but this is for a GP so I want to resleeve it the day of the tournament so there is no chance of a marked sleeve. I won't have a chance to deslipify them (yes, that definitely is a word...). Also I want the matte back as they are easier to hold.
Matte backs are ( i believe) te only tournament legal ones for kmc
These good and tournament legal?
http://www.amazon.com/KMC-Standard-Size-Deck-Protectors/dp/B0014Z4LD2
The package actually has a little folded insert that tells you which is tourney legal and which are not.
I mainly go for matte blue's
Quote from: NyghtHawk on July 05, 2014, 08:54:11 PM
Quote from: Gocougs509 on July 05, 2014, 08:51:19 PM
Quote from: NyghtHawk on July 05, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
Ultra pros are garbage. Buy kmc or dragonshields which are only slippery initially.
False. Have had dragon sheilds on one of my EDH decks for over a year and they are still slippery. Maybe it's cause I keep my hands clean? I don't really know
I own numerous sets of shields and never do they stay slippery. Not sure why yours would. Also if you don't like the shields, go kmc.
I'd rather just stick with ultra pro's, because they have a much better feel to them. And like I said before when it comes down to it, feel is all that really matters.
I personally go for durability, in which case I run through this test:
Have I ever seen a ultra pro split?: yes.
Have I ever seen kmc's split?: yes (though much less that ultra pros)
Have I ever seen dragon sheilds split?: no
I want ultra pros. I need to know which are the sturdiest of the least sturdy sleeves. I'm not getting dragonshields, I want a matte not glossy back.
Those KMC Mattes are literally the best sleeves you can get. The team I play on all uses them and not once has a sleeve split. They are slick like all sleeves at first but once played with a couple matches they become nice and smooth where they glide on shuffle but hold tight while playing (sitting as a deck)
Quote from: Gocougs509 on July 05, 2014, 08:51:19 PM
Quote from: NyghtHawk on July 05, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
Ultra pros are garbage. Buy kmc or dragonshields which are only slippery initially.
False. Have had dragon sheilds on one of my EDH decks for over a year and they are still slippery. Maybe it's cause I keep my hands clean? I don't really know
Do you play with it often? They shouldn't stay slippery.
Seriously just pay the extra $2-3 and get {Dragon Sleeves}!!
For ultra pro sleeves I have only ever had about 2-3 break and that was with my cats playing with them. So I guess ultra pro is not animal friendly.. Haha.
Never really tried others except for random ones in Japanese and ultra and off brand penny sleeves but ehh.. Those are pretty much only good for play testing or in binders..
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 06, 2014, 02:37:26 AM
Seriously just pay the extra $2-3 and get {Dragon Sleeves}!!
Have you even read his posts? He made it clear that he wants sleeves that aren't very slippery since he won't have a chance to deslipify them.
Well if you use a shinny or gloss coated sleeve for a few games they are not very slippery anymore. Nothing is as slippery as penny sleeves though..
Ultra pro matte blacks are awesome
Matte blues aren't as hard as black
And they are soft like turquoise dragon shields. They are only slippery if double sleeved
Lol
Had a bad experience with a double sleeved deck i fresh matte blues
Cards went everywhere ):
Ultro-Pro is Okay. I've had more of them break on me than any other sleeve, and I've also had times where I bought a pack of exactly the number I needed, and it was one or two short.
I use KMCs for competitive events. Hyper-Mats actually. Very smooth shuffling, durable enough to run a few events. I wouldn't use them for long-term, but that's just me. Back when they first came out with them, they used to split a fair amount of the time, but they've worked out those kinks.
For EDH, I use Dragonshields for the sheer durability and the 100-sleeve packs (And, opposite Ultra-Pro, there're always a few extra sleeves in the box). The only problem with Dragonshields are that the cuts can be slightly uneven, so I shy away from them for tournament play.
I've decided to go for some ultra pro pro-matte sleeves. I'll have 25 extra in case any split, and I should be ok for 1 gp at least.