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Title: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 04, 2014, 09:04:06 PM
I would like to talk about this BS. Red is notorious for getting the short end of the stick and it happened here again.

{Constricting Sliver} ({Banisher Priest} Sliver) gives Sliver EDH a huge boost because between this, {Harmonic Sliver} and {Necrotic Sliver}, Slivers can easily clear a board and keep it clear.

{Diffusion Sliver} (counter spells targeting sliver unless they pay 2) gives a psuedo hexproof that gives Slivers the boost it needs in standard and possibly Modern.

{Leeching Sliver} (defending player loses 1 life) means extra hurt and can win you the game before blocks are declared.

{Venom Sliver} (deathtouch) is amazing and combos interestingly with {Thorncaster Sliver}, {Striking Sliver}, and {Groundshaker Sliver}.

Then we get {Belligerent Sliver} which is just a {Two-Headed Sliver} that costs one more and is a 2/2 instead of a 1/1 (which doesnt really matter). Why Wizards? Why?
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Distriimuir on July 04, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
Cause slivers rule and they wanted to help us sliver fans out lol
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 04, 2014, 09:07:45 PM
Quote from: Infektor on July 04, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
Cause slivers rule and they wanted to help us sliver fans out lol
I love slivers, I have a sliver Edh deck. Why couldnt red get a cool new ability?
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Distriimuir on July 04, 2014, 09:09:50 PM
Has the whole set been spoiled yet?
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 04, 2014, 09:11:06 PM
Quote from: Infektor on July 04, 2014, 09:09:50 PM
Has the whole set been spoiled yet?
Yeah, it was spoiled at like 10 last night.
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Distriimuir on July 04, 2014, 09:14:52 PM
Damn didnt know very card was yet. I guess we'll make do with {striking sliver} and our haste boy from m14.
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Silent1236 on July 04, 2014, 09:37:15 PM
Yeah, but he's probably belligerent as .love..

...I'm just full of .poo. references people won't get
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on July 04, 2014, 10:04:22 PM
I don't see why you're complaining, that ability is actually pretty good. Evasion tends to win games, last time I checked.
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Gocougs509 on July 04, 2014, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on July 04, 2014, 10:04:22 PM
I don't see why you're complaining, that ability is actually pretty good. Evasion tends to win games, last time I checked.

It's still the worst of the new slivers, especially when you think about the fact that it's a worse version of a previous sliver
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 04, 2014, 11:14:47 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on July 04, 2014, 10:04:22 PM
I don't see why you're complaining, that ability is actually pretty good. Evasion tends to win games, last time I checked.
But we have seen the ability before for cheaper. Also "evasion tends to win games" but slivers have much better options such as flying, shadow, can't be blocked except by slivers...honestly this card is almost worthless.
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: The1337Magician on July 05, 2014, 11:06:34 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 04, 2014, 11:14:47 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on July 04, 2014, 10:04:22 PM
I don't see why you're complaining, that ability is actually pretty good. Evasion tends to win games, last time I checked.
But we have seen the ability before for cheaper. Also "evasion tends to win games" but slivers have much better options such as flying, shadow, can't be blocked except by slivers...honestly this card is almost worthless.
"This card is almost worthless" ... Outside of Standard. Dude, So what. You got five others plus a land that are awesome. It's still alright.
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Dmreiss on July 05, 2014, 11:13:30 AM
So will slivers be really good until rotation and then fall off?  In order to make a sliver deck you will have to play all 5 colors.  These seem like more of a concession for other formats than standard.
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Distriimuir on July 05, 2014, 12:20:46 PM
Quote from: Dmreiss on July 05, 2014, 11:13:30 AM
So will slivers be really good until rotation and then fall off?  In order to make a sliver deck you will have to play all 5 colors.  These seem like more of a concession for other formats than standard.

It's looking like we'll have to do what we did with the m14 ones, use te best colored ones an build a deck around them. I'm thinking blue green red is a good choice.
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Mattao19 on July 05, 2014, 12:42:58 PM
I'm going Bant ({G}{W}{U}) with a tiny little splash for {B} bc well removal is handy lol

So far so good but the mana base is tough. And tbh {R} is just meh to me the only reason is play it is for {Boros Charm}
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Stromack on July 05, 2014, 12:44:54 PM
Slivers are the STD on magics wang
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Mattao19 on July 05, 2014, 12:48:09 PM
Quote from: Stromack on July 05, 2014, 12:44:54 PM
Slivers are the STD on magics wang

Lol what?
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Stromack on July 05, 2014, 12:49:45 PM
Hahaha they are the worst thing that ever happened to magic.

And now magic can't pee without it burning
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Mattao19 on July 05, 2014, 01:01:04 PM
Quote from: Stromack on July 05, 2014, 12:49:45 PM
Hahaha they are the worst thing that ever happened to magic.

And now magic can't pee without it burning


Lol why are they bad for Magic?
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Distriimuir on July 05, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 05, 2014, 01:01:04 PM
Quote from: Stromack on July 05, 2014, 12:49:45 PM
Hahaha they are the worst thing that ever happened to magic.

And now magic can't pee without it burning


Lol why are they bad for Magic?

Cause certain players had a bad experience playing against them in the day and don't want them back, or think the new ones look funny lol. I love me my sliver hive lol
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Stromack on July 05, 2014, 01:12:52 PM
I've been playing since ice age. Hated then when they came out, and still hate them now.

Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Mattao19 on July 05, 2014, 01:13:47 PM
If you hate them then play spot removal ... Lol or wraths
Title: Re: Belligerent Sliver
Post by: Gocougs509 on July 05, 2014, 02:12:18 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 05, 2014, 01:13:47 PM
If you hate them then play spot removal ... Lol or wraths

Not so effective anymore...