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Oloro Commander Idea 100 cards, 0 sideboard 1 {Oloro, Ageless Ascetic} 1 {Reliquary Tower} 4 {Plains} 4 {Island} 1 {Temple of Enlightenment} 1 {Temple of Silence} 1 {Mystic Gate} 1 {Hallowed Fountain} 1 {Orzhov Basilica} 1 {Polluted Delta} 1 {Esper Panorama} 1 {Evolving Wilds} 1 {Marsh Flats} 1 {Glacial Fortress} 1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} 1 {Thespian's Stage} 1 {Azorius Chancery} 1 {Cabal Coffers} 1 {Temple of Deceit} 1 {Bloodstained Mire} 1 {Misty Rainforest} 1 {Watery Grave} 1 {Isolated Chapel} 1 {Temple of the False God} 1 {Dimir Aqueduct} 1 {Terramorphic Expanse} 1 {Godless Shrine} 1 {Flooded Strand} 4 {Swamp} 1 {Cephalid Coliseum} 1 {Drowned Catacomb} 1 {Command Tower} 40 lands 1 {Laboratory Maniac} 1 {Felidar Sovereign} 1 {Erebos, God of the Dead} 1 {Avacyn, Angel of Hope} 1 {Heliod, God of the Sun} 1 {Divinity of Pride} 1 {Grave Titan} 1 {Sun Titan} 1 {Serra Ascendant} 1 {Snapcaster Mage} 1 {Serra Avatar} 11 creatures 1 {Liliana Vess} 1 {Impulse} 1 {Decree of Pain} 1 {Blue Sun's Zenith} 1 {Sorin Markov} 1 {Test of Endurance} 1 {Sol Ring} 1 {Debt to the Deathless} 1 {Exsanguinate} 1 {Dissipate} 1 {Terminus} 1 {Force of Will} 1 {Counterspell} 1 {Mind Grind} 1 {Banishing Light} 1 {Sensei's Divining Top} 1 {Oblivion Ring} 1 {Path to Exile} 1 {Orzhov Cluestone} 1 {Detention Sphere} 1 {Chromatic Lantern} 1 {Enlightened Tutor} 1 {Swords to Plowshares} 1 {Mystical Tutor} 1 {Psychic Spiral} 1 {Diabolic Revelation} 1 {Azorius Cluestone} 1 {Black Sun's Zenith} 1 {Counterbalance} 1 {Elspeth, Sun's Champion} 1 {Cryptic Command} 1 {Elixir of Immortality} 1 {White Sun's Zenith} 1 {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} 1 {Day of Judgment} 1 {Entreat the Angels} 1 {Fall of the Gavel} 1 {Time Stretch} 1 {Supreme Verdict} 1 {Temporal Mastery} 1 {Dissolve} 1 {Brainstorm} 1 {Diabolic Tutor} 1 {Fact or Fiction} 1 {Ancestral Vision} 1 {Profane Command} 1 {Sphinx's Revelation} 1 {Hinder} 48 other spells Sideboard

An idea for what I would do with oloro. Thoughts?

 {Serra Ascendant}

{Test of Endurance} and {Felidar Sovereign}. {Sorin Markov} is funny too.

Ok I knew I was missing the judgement and the sovern. I feel kinda stupid haha. Any other suggestions? I can't seem to find anything to cut for the accendant either

Quote from: SoshiGanrou on July 03, 2014, 11:17:35 PM
Ok I knew I was missing the judgement and the sovern. I feel kinda stupid haha. Any other suggestions? I can't seem to find anything to cut for the accendant either

Maybe just cut cancel?

Quote from: JordanCirk on July 03, 2014, 01:57:28 AM
{Serra Ascendant}

I don't play or look in the commander section much but I was gonna suggest this too.

I would think this card would be in any commander deck running {W}.  Do you guys think this card is kind of cheating given the starting life total?  I kind of think {felidar sovereign} fits that same category and I would feel cheap winning an EDH game with him.

Quote from: cltrn81 on July 04, 2014, 08:27:50 AM

Quote from: JordanCirk on July 03, 2014, 01:57:28 AM
{Serra Ascendant}

I don't play or look in the commander section much but I was gonna suggest this too.

I would think this card would be in any commander deck running {W}.  Do you guys think this card is kind of cheating given the starting life total?  I kind of think {felidar sovereign} fits that same category and I would feel cheap winning an EDH game with him.

i think {serra ascendant} and {felidar sovereign} are on completely differently levels in edh. {serra ascendent} is just a super fast beater, annoying, but something that can be dealt with. also note, that late game, {serra ascendant} can be a pretty terrible draw. {felidar sovereign} on the other hand, normally is in life gain builds, so when it comes out, their life total is usually substantially higher than 40 and so the only way to prevent it is to immediately kill the cat beast barring a {platinum angel} or an {eon hub} or something.

While yes it is a cheap win with those cards I know the players I play with will have ways to deal with it so I don't feel terrible about playing those cards. I updated it again and found a card or two to cut for some of the suggested.

Cut Cancel for {Hinder} to counter and tuck a commander. Also {Condemn} is good for that and if you include both of them, put in {Tunnel Vision} to mill their whole deck.

In my play group, since two of us run Oloro, we amended  {Serra Ascendant} to 50 life. First turn 6/6 flying lifelink is stupid broken. Now, sixth turn or sooner is more accurate. I also run  {Divinity of Pride}, {Felidar Sovereign}, and  {Test of Endurance} but haven't had too much hate because they are more high costed. Same goes for  {Blood Baron of Vizkopa}, but when an opponent gets below 10 life, I don't see that helping too much when I can just  {Exsanguinate} or something.

Oh! Saucey! I like that. I'll throw in {exsanguate} and completly forgot about uraborg and cabal coffers. Helps drain everyone quickly. Haha

Quote from: SoshiGanrou on July 05, 2014, 12:58:34 PM
Oh! Saucey! I like that. I'll throw in {exsanguate} and completly forgot about uraborg and cabal coffers. Helps drain everyone quickly. Haha

Don't forget  {Debt to the Deathless} and  {Death Grasp}.