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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: TreeSmoker on June 28, 2014, 09:41:26 PM

Title: Hold
Post by: TreeSmoker on June 28, 2014, 09:41:26 PM
{Hold at bay} prevents {stormbreath dragon} damage? I need clarification please and thank you

and does {fated retribution} affect stormbreath
Title: Re: Hold
Post by: particle on June 28, 2014, 10:13:23 PM
yup. if they targeted stormbreath youd have a problem.
Title: Re: Hold
Post by: FustyDavorite on June 28, 2014, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: TreeSmoker on June 28, 2014, 09:41:26 PM
{Hold at bay} prevents {stormbreath dragon} damage? I need clarification please and thank you

and does {fated retribution} affect stormbreath
particularly when it comes to protection, remember

D amage
E quip/enchant
B locking
T argeting

The protection from [characteristic] affects only these things.

In this case, none of the following happen with either  {Hold at Bay} or  {Fated Retribution}, so both would affect stormbreath
Title: Re: Hold
Post by: Mattao19 on June 29, 2014, 11:35:49 AM
{Hold at Bay} targets {Stormbreath Dragon} though which can't be done so I'd say it's illegal.

But stuff like fated and Verdict can kill it bc it's destroy all creatures
Title: Re: Hold
Post by: Wingnut on June 29, 2014, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 29, 2014, 11:35:49 AM
{Hold at Bay} targets {Stormbreath Dragon} though which can't be done so I'd say it's illegal.

But stuff like fated and Verdict can kill it bc it's destroy all creatures

If your trying to prevent damage being done to stormbreath this is true. But if your trying to prevent damage being dealt BY stormbreath,  {Hold at Bay} works as you don't target stormbreath.
Title: Re: Hold
Post by: particle on June 29, 2014, 04:17:15 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 29, 2014, 11:35:49 AM
{Hold at Bay} targets {Stormbreath Dragon} though which can't be done so I'd say it's illegal.

But stuff like fated and Verdict can kill it bc it's destroy all creatures

yea we were assuming the OP was trying to save his creature from stormbreath with hold at bay, which it can. with pro white, stormbreath cannot be saved by hold at bay, as you say.
Title: Re: Hold
Post by: Mattao19 on June 29, 2014, 04:32:43 PM
Ohhhh I thought he meant like it was his Storm Dragon that he wanted to save sorry bud
Title: Re: Hold
Post by: particle on June 29, 2014, 04:39:28 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 29, 2014, 04:32:43 PM
Ohhhh I thought he meant like it was his Storm Dragon that he wanted to save sorry bud

no worries my friend.