So a while ago it was stated that we would see fetchlands, but Wizards takes a little bit of time to react, leading people to believe that we would see them in two years (because that is how far ahead of release they start do design for a set), but then this comment was in the release notes for BNG:
"DH 8/16: Question for the general population: Is this supposed to be "Pay 1 life, T: ..." instead?
KD 8/20: Per Dave and Erik: Now pay life rather than deal damage, to match the land cycles we are most likely to reprint."
This MUST reference fetches, because they are the only cycle with that template. This gave everyone hope and now we find out that M15 has an enemy color theme. Here is what I think: Khans is a wedge set and will feature the enemy colored fetches. I am about 95% sure on this.
What are enemy fetches the onslaught ones?
Quote from: Vindog on June 26, 2014, 10:16:24 PM
What are enemy fetches the onslaught ones?
No the Zendikar ones.
I'm hoping this is true and gets confirmed soon if so, as I need some fetches and can't afford them right now :(
Me too, {Scalding Tarn}s are expensive. We will learn more on July 24th because of SDCC.
Meh. 1 day before the gp I'm going to is not going to help.
I've been hearing no fetches for a couple of years.
I hope they come back soon. Like in Standard fetches would be so bad!! Like pay 1 life find a basic forest or basic island is not great lol they'd only be used to thin out decks
Quote from: TreeSmoker on June 27, 2014, 07:02:12 AM
I've been hearing no fetches for a couple of years.
That's because in an interview one of the top Magic officials said that fetches would be reprinted, but Wizards would take some time to react. Because Wizard's Design process is two years ahead of release, many believed this meant two years, but in all actuallity they could very easily slip them into a set during its development, so if they needed to act fast, we could see fetches in any set.
Quote from: Taysby on June 27, 2014, 02:29:53 PM
many they'll be in a FTV!
I doubt that. The reason they'd reprint the fetches in am standard set would be to make modern more accessible. The reason it wouldn't be in an FTV is because the people who buy those are the people who are already in modern. Otherwise they're not useful.
Quote from: Taysby on June 27, 2014, 03:40:19 PM
that time i was trolling. I thought it was obvious. :P
Most of what you post sounds like you're trolling, so we can never tell ;)
I mean, if they did decided to throw fetches into a set now is the time because magic is huge right now. This game is at a high point and with modern and legacy being pushed heavy by WOTC they need to give access to the land base for the new players. Further more, some cards from M15 do have reactions with searching decks etc so maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to give them a shot
Quote from: Trugamr12 on June 28, 2014, 03:18:54 PM
I mean, if they did decided to throw fetches into a set now is the time because magic is huge right now. This game is at a high point and with modern and legacy being pushed heavy by WOTC they need to give access to the land base for the new players. Further more, some cards from M15 do have reactions with searching decks etc so maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to give them a shot
not trying to argue, as i dont know the formats. but, most of the legacy/modern players around me think wizards is only pushing modern and doesnt support legacy.
Wizards doesn't actively support Legacy anymore, aside from occasionally hosting a Grand Prix for the format, and occasionally print cards in new sets and Stand-alones that are designed for the format (like {True-Name Nemesis}). The reason for Legacy's boom over the past few years (and the subsequent skyrocketing prices) are largely thanks to Star City, who have a Legacy Open almost every weekend. If SCG didn't start supporting the format like they did, the prices would be much, much lower, but Legacy would also basically be a dead format... Except in certain communities (like mine) that have very active Legacy and Vintage players.
Quote from: Remillo on June 28, 2014, 07:48:10 PM
Wizards doesn't actively support Legacy anymore, aside from occasionally hosting a Grand Prix for the format, and occasionally print cards in new sets and Stand-alones that are designed for the format (like {True-Name Nemesis}). The reason for Legacy's boom over the past few years (and the subsequent skyrocketing prices) are largely thanks to Star City, who have a Legacy Open almost every weekend. If SCG didn't start supporting the format like they did, the prices would be much, much lower, but Legacy would also basically be a dead format... Except in certain communities (like mine) that have very active Legacy and Vintage players.
got it thanks!
Its not that Wizards doesn't want to support Legacy/Vintage, they just can't because of the infinite stupidity that is the Reserved List. Plus, could you imagine how much they have to make "Legacy Masters" or "Vintage Masters" so as to not have Chronicles 2? They would need to charge $40-$50.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on June 29, 2014, 12:46:29 AM
What do you mean by Chronicles 2? I don't quite get the reference. Chronicles doesn't really have any money cards in it, so are you being sassy? Or are you saying that if they would be reprinting similar to it, it would just be a bunch of junk. OR POSSIBLY, there was a ton of printing of Chronicles, so that is why they have such low prices... Kind of a flood the market thing hahahaha I'm confused.
Chronicles is the reason we have the Reserved List. The first few sets of Magic were severely underprinted and even the most basic cards cost a lot of money. Chronicles reprinted may of these cards and Magic players everywhere lost hundreds and thousands of dollars as $100 cards became $0.50 rares. This made everyone mad at WoTC, so in response Wizards created the Reserved List promising that certain cards wouldn't be reprinted and assuring the Magic community that they would never lose so much again. This is what I meant by avoiding a "Chronicles 2", if "Legacy Masters" were printed at too low a price, it would cause a lot of legacy staples to plummet and hundreds of players and collectors would get pissed off, but if they charged too much, it wouldn't do anything. The point is moot though, because "Legacy Masters" could only reprint cards not on the reserved list and with the ABUR (Alpha, Beta, Unlimited, Reserved) duals are on there so Legacy land bases would still cost hundreds.
I personally say screw the collectors. They are the ones who ruin legacy, and they even make modern extremely hard to get in to. Why should wizards care so much about them anyways? It's the PLAYERS who buy a substantial portion of their new product anyways and where they make most of their money. Wizards should stop allowing for starcitygames to completely dominate the magic market like they do. Idk, I guess MTGO is the place to go if you are a player who wants an easier way in but I still say F the collectors
Quote from: Gocougs509 on June 29, 2014, 01:10:20 AM
I personally say screw the collectors. They are the ones who ruin legacy, and they even make modern extremely hard to get in to. Why should wizards care so much about them anyways? It's the PLAYERS who buy a substantial portion of their new product anyways and where they make most of their money. Wizards should stop allowing for starcitygames to completely dominate the magic market like they do. Idk, I guess MTGO is the place to go if you are a player who wants an easier way in but I still say F the collectors
To quote Will Ferrell in Austin Powers, "You are preaching to the converted." I hate that collectors make MTG so expensive and if there were a way to stop them from buying MTG cards, I'd say let's do it, but sadly there is nothing we can do. The only way to save legacy is to eliminate the Reserved List. I sent in a suggestion to MaRo asking that he release a "Legacy Masters" with cards that are slightly worse than the ABUR duals, but still playable (like a shockland that deals 1, {Force of Will} that you lose 2 life, or {Ancestral Recall} where you can't force your opponent to draw), but price the packs at like $15 so that the real cards (ABUR duals, {Ancestral Recall}, and {Force of Will}) don't completely plummet. I haven't heard back yet though.... :/
{ancestral recall} is not legacy legal but I get your point and like the idea