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Title: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 26, 2014, 04:03:34 PM
{Master Transmuter}:
Can I return something like {Elixer of Immortality} to my hand and then throw out {Blightsteel} on the 5th turn?

Turn 1: island
T2: island
T3: island + Elixer
T4: island + Transmuter
T5: island + Transmuter's ability, return Elixer, throw out Blightsteel.
T6: no blockers, 11 with infect.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Remillo on June 26, 2014, 04:13:06 PM
Sure.  Transmuter doesn't care what artifact you return to your hand.  You can return an Elixir, an Artifact Land, or even the Transmuter herself.  You just have to bounce an artifact.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: TheRagingMage on June 26, 2014, 04:13:54 PM
Yes, but good luck having no blockers turn 6.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 26, 2014, 04:16:41 PM
It'd be nice to throw out a {Bow of Nylea} as well. :) But I'd like a mono blue artifact deck.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: blackychan1 on June 26, 2014, 06:11:34 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 26, 2014, 04:16:41 PM
It'd be nice to throw out a {Bow of Nylea} as well. :) But I'd like a mono blue artifact deck.
I don't think blightsteel NEEDS deathtouch.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Avnger345 on June 26, 2014, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: blackychan1 on June 26, 2014, 06:11:34 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 26, 2014, 04:16:41 PM
It'd be nice to throw out a {Bow of Nylea} as well. :) But I'd like a mono blue artifact deck.
I don't think blightsteel NEEDS deathtouch.

Deathtouch is a plus... Only needs to deal 1 damage to trample over
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 26, 2014, 08:18:06 PM
But this IS possible, though, correct?
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 26, 2014, 08:36:38 PM
Yessir. Not even terrible odds of an opening hand having all you need (assuming you run four of each). It'll also be sweet to watch your opponents face as an 11/11 trample, infect, indestructible hits the table. On turn six. In a blue deck.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 26, 2014, 08:46:13 PM
Unfortunately I only have 3 blightsteels, but the odds are still there.

Is there another way to bring out blitghty with a blue deck early in the game? Let's estimate around turn 5-6.

Edit: Since Blightsteel isn't Legendary, I also run 4 {Clone}s and 4 {Copy Artifact}s.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: TheRagingMage on June 26, 2014, 08:51:51 PM
{Tinker} is really useful.  Also, {Ornithopter}s and {Memnite}s are good for sacrificing.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on June 26, 2014, 09:01:30 PM
For the transmuter, you could bounce mox opal back to hand then play it again, you don't need elixir
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 26, 2014, 10:36:40 PM
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on June 26, 2014, 09:01:30 PM
For the transmuter, you could bounce mox opal back to hand then play it again, you don't need elixir
Great point. Why not run a playset of {Mox Opal}s and Hockey Pucks ({Darksteel Relic}s) instead? You could also use {Ornithopter} or {Memnite} and {Springleaf Drum} to bluff affinity. I would go with 4x {Springleaf Drum}, 4x {Ornithopter}, 4x {Memnite} and 4x {Mox Opal}s.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 26, 2014, 10:53:20 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 26, 2014, 08:46:13 PM
Unfortunately I only have 3 blightsteels, but the odds are still there.

Is there another way to bring out blitghty with a blue deck early in the game? Let's estimate around turn 5-6.

Edit: Since Blightsteel isn't Legendary, I also run 4 {Clone}s and 4 {Copy Artifact}s.

{Muzzio, Visionary Architect} can do it T4. Without mana acceleration. If you're lucky and have a high(ish) cost artifact on the board. {Brainstorm} greatly helps set up (if Blightsteel is in your hand you can put it on top of your library.) {Arbiter of the ideal} does the same(ish) thing.

I've been hunting a {Blightsteel Colossus} for a while for my {Muzzio, Visionary Architect} Commander deck.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 27, 2014, 12:01:04 AM
Is there a cheap way to quickly get {Omniscience} out? The earlier the better.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Munchlax on June 27, 2014, 01:14:34 AM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 27, 2014, 12:01:04 AM
Is there a cheap way to quickly get {Omniscience} out? The earlier the better.
{Show and Tell} another omniscience. {Jhiora of the Ghitu}
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: FustyDavorite on June 27, 2014, 02:39:24 AM
 {Seat of the Synod} makes this combo easy. Just saying. I put crazy stuff out with master transmitter all day long in EDH. Super fun card. And as Link pointed out, Muzzio kicks major butt too. One of my most favorite new additions to Sydri.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Redrighthand on June 27, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
You could also use {treasure mage} to fetch Blightsteel for your {master transmuter}
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 27, 2014, 03:31:55 PM
Quote from: Redrighthand on June 27, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
You could also use {treasure mage} to fetch Blightsteel for your {master transmuter}

I wouldn't want to reveal it, I'd want to either have it in my hand already or draw it early in the game. I mean, there isnt any surprise in revealing an 11/11 trample, indestructible, infect. If they know it's coming, they'll prepare for it.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 27, 2014, 05:34:18 PM
If they've played your deck before they'll know it's coming. It's not a terrible idea but I'd probably keep it sideboarded.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 27, 2014, 08:38:11 PM
I never carry just 1 deck. :p
I like to play around with multiple decks, although, my blue/white deck and my Gruul deck are my favorites. :3
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 29, 2014, 03:57:51 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 27, 2014, 08:38:11 PM
I never carry just 1 deck. :p
I like to play around with multiple decks, although, my blue/white deck and my Gruul deck are my favorites. :3

I just made my fourth Commander deck and I have seven others. The more the better!
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: particle on June 29, 2014, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 27, 2014, 12:01:04 AM
Is there a cheap way to quickly get {Omniscience} out? The earlier the better.

{academy rector}.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 29, 2014, 04:59:13 PM
Quote from: particle on June 29, 2014, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 27, 2014, 12:01:04 AM
Is there a cheap way to quickly get {Omniscience} out? The earlier the better.

{academy rector}.
What about for Blue? I'm wanting to make a blue artifact deck. Ive never seen someone pull a Blightsteel out in a mono blue deck. :D
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 29, 2014, 06:25:14 PM
That would work well with Scry. :)
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Arbitratur on June 29, 2014, 08:37:57 PM
{polymorph} b!tches! Haha

Seriously tho, check out Woo's Brews.  He made one with {master transmitter}... I am currently in the process of making a similar version... Dem {mox opals} tho... 😭

Side note: Travis Woo is the man! He comes up with the best stuff!
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Mlerner12 on June 29, 2014, 08:52:04 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 27, 2014, 12:01:04 AM
Is there a cheap way to quickly get {Omniscience} out? The earlier the better.
Turn one good?

T1: Land, {Lotus Petal}, exile {Simian Spirit Guid}. Cast {Show and Tell}. {Omniscience} on the field.
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 30, 2014, 12:37:34 AM
Ffs, that is awesome! Now all I need is lotus petal and show and tell! Off to the trading section!
Title: Re: Easy Blightsteel
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 30, 2014, 01:29:16 AM
That's begging for people to quit playing with you.