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Title: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ryggrad82 on June 21, 2014, 08:43:30 PM

Mighty Whitey

75 cards, 0 sideboard


24 {Plains}
1 {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}

25 lands


4 {Burnished Hart}
1 {Celestial Archon}
4 {Setessan Battle Priest}
4 {Auramancer}
2 {Hopeful Eidolon}
4 {Wingsteed Rider}
4 {Phalanx Leader}
1 {Eidolon of Countless Battles}
1 {Celestial Archon}
4 {Evangel of Heliod}

29 creatures


1 {Sunbond}
2 {Launch the Fleet}
4 {Ordeal of Heliod}
1 {Gift of Immortality}
1 {Path of Bravery}
4 {Hold at Bay}
4 {Battlewise Valor}
4 {Gods Willing}

21 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:
Mostly Theros block and a small splash of 2014 also.
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 02:03:20 AM
Hopefully this deck is good enough. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: TreeSmoker on June 22, 2014, 02:07:06 AM
20 Plains
4 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx



x Burnished Hart
x Celestial Archon
4 soldier of the pantheon
4 Auramancer
3 Hopeful Eidolon
4 Wingsteed Rider
4 Phalanx Leader
4 Eidolon of Countless Battles
x Celestial Archon
4 Evangel of Heliod



x Sunbond
3 Launch the Fleet
x Ordeal of Heliod
x Gift of Immortality
x Path of Bravery
x Hold at Bay
x Battlewise Valor
4 Gods Willing

+ 4 path of bravery

imo
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 02:21:09 AM
Does "x Celestial Archon" mean take it out?
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: TreeSmoker on June 22, 2014, 02:54:01 AM
Yes it does sir/ma'am
Gave you a somewhat decent white weenie.
If you want it even better. Take out battle preist and add fabled hero. Way to good to not have him.
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 03:17:30 AM
{Fabled Hero} Can't perform this synergie, "{Setessan Battle Priest}+{Sunbond}+{Ordeal of Heliod}+Attack" = You do the math...
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: TreeSmoker on June 22, 2014, 03:36:26 AM
Then try {fabled hero}+{gift of orzhova}+{eidolon of countless battles}+{phalanx leader} trigger a couple of times. It'll be hard to deal with. You can always take out baleful to run 2 {gift of orzhova} and {2 spear of Heliod}.
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: griffin131 on June 22, 2014, 09:08:44 AM
Quote from: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 03:17:30 AM
{Fabled Hero} Can't perform this synergie, "{Setessan Battle Priest}+{Sunbond}+{Ordeal of Heliod}+Attack" = You do the math...
That'd be a 14/17 vanilla creature.
{Fabled Hero}+{Sunbond}+{Ordeal of Heliod}+attack would be a 15/15 double striker.

Fabled Hero is better.
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 09:25:29 AM
Fabled Hero doesn't give 2 life when you cast a spell on it. Sunbod needs life from a source to put counters on and {Setessan Battle Priest} gives you two, so 2 out of 3 counters from {Sunbond} then attack and sac OoH and gain 10 life and 11 counters. Much quicker.
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ekann1 on June 22, 2014, 09:36:06 AM
I think you'd rather kill them more quickly with less chance of your creature dying. (Deathtouch, etc)
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 09:41:25 AM
What would you recommend to get the life boost quickly then?
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ekann1 on June 22, 2014, 09:42:44 AM
Is there a reason you need it?
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 09:44:02 AM
Yeah. I want to be able to sac OoH while only attacking once.
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: TreeSmoker on June 22, 2014, 09:45:29 AM
Gift of orzhova makes your creature fly and gve you life. Fabled hero is double strike. How is ordeal and all of that better?
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 09:48:40 AM
It may not be better but it is faster to achieve.
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: TreeSmoker on June 22, 2014, 09:51:13 AM
I mean. My synergy cost 11 mana yours cost 9 ordeal of Heliod you have to attack 3 times
Gift of orzhova gains life and flying and fabled hero has double strike. so what ever you get off ordeal and stuff. You gain double off fabled hero and gift.
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 09:58:16 AM
Quote from: TreeSmoker on June 22, 2014, 09:51:13 AM
ordeal of Heliod you have to attack 3 times

This is why I chose SBP. You cast Sunbond on her, gain 2 life from her heroic, and then gain 2 +1/+1 from Sunbond because of the life gain and then you attack ONCE because OoH says when you have 3 counters you sac it, gain 10 life and 11 +1/+1 counters.
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: TreeSmoker on June 22, 2014, 10:01:41 AM
It doesn't go by damage. It goes by attack turns. It would be used in every white weenie deck if that was the case.
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: griffin131 on June 22, 2014, 10:09:07 AM
Quote from: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 09:25:29 AM
Fabled Hero doesn't give 2 life when you cast a spell on it. Sunbod needs life from a source to put counters on and {Setessan Battle Priest} gives you two, so 2 out of 3 counters from {Sunbond} then attack and sac OoH and gain 10 life and 11 counters. Much quicker.
Hero gets a counter when you cast Sunbond on him. Another counter when you Ordeal. Another when you attack.
So... Same speed?
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: griffin131 on June 22, 2014, 10:10:09 AM
Quote from: TreeSmoker on June 22, 2014, 10:02:51 AM
The ordeal of Heliod counters are different from sbp's counters.
No, they're not. It's all +1/+1 counters.
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 10:10:46 AM
Quote from: TreeSmoker on June 22, 2014, 10:02:51 AM
The ordeal of Heliod counters are different from sbp's counters.


9/15/2013   The +1/+1 counter is put on the creature before blockers are declared and before combat damage is dealt.
9/15/2013   The check of whether the enchanted creature has three or more +1/+1 counters on it happens as part of the resolution of the attack triggered ability. If the third +1/+1 counter is put on the enchanted creature any other way, you won't sacrifice the Ordeal until the next time the creature attacks.
9/15/2013   If you sacrifice the Ordeal in some other way, its last ability will trigger.
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 10:12:44 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on June 22, 2014, 10:09:07 AM
Quote from: Ryggrad82 on June 22, 2014, 09:25:29 AM
Fabled Hero doesn't give 2 life when you cast a spell on it. Sunbod needs life from a source to put counters on and {Setessan Battle Priest} gives you two, so 2 out of 3 counters from {Sunbond} then attack and sac OoH and gain 10 life and 11 counters. Much quicker.
Hero gets a counter when you cast Sunbond on him. Another counter when you Ordeal. Another when you attack.
So... Same speed?

I believe so! Nice!
Title: Re: Mighty Whitey
Post by: Chargingswadger on June 22, 2014, 10:38:54 PM
Evangel is terrible. If you are willing to go outside of Theros block use Boros elite and precinct captain. Fiends later paladin and Brimaz should too out your curve. Amorous arrest or is angriest early drop, but you side him out against aggro. I'm a huge fan if acolytes reward.