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Title: Heartless Furnace
Post by: Munchlax on June 13, 2014, 04:54:17 PM
{Furnace of Wrath} with {Heartless Hidgetsugu}
This is the premise of my only EDH deck. Kills everyone with an even life total
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: DylanW18 on June 13, 2014, 04:57:26 PM
Very nice! Maybe run {Dark Sphere} to save yourself? And {Dictate of the Twin Gods} can make it more consistent :) nice find, +1 :)
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: Munchlax on June 13, 2014, 05:14:36 PM
Quote from: DylanW18 on June 13, 2014, 04:57:26 PM
Very nice! Maybe run {Dark Sphere} to save yourself? And {Dictate of the Twin Gods} can make it more consistent :) nice find, +1 :)
Instead of Dark Sphere I make my life total odd so I'm left with 1 life. I do use the dictate. Anything else of that sort of thing?
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on June 13, 2014, 05:15:34 PM
{Gisela, Blade of Goldnight} is good, but she needs white.
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: Munchlax on June 13, 2014, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on June 13, 2014, 05:15:34 PM
{Gisela, Blade of Goldnight} is good, but she needs white.
The deck is mono red so that won't work :(
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: DrainCleaner on June 13, 2014, 05:56:30 PM
If you give {Heartless Hidetsugu} lifelink its even better!
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: Munchlax on June 13, 2014, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on June 13, 2014, 05:56:30 PM
If you give {Heartless Hidetsugu} lifelink its even better!
What is there in mono red that would do that!
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on June 13, 2014, 06:11:00 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on June 13, 2014, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on June 13, 2014, 05:56:30 PM
If you give {Heartless Hidetsugu} lifelink its even better!
What is there in mono red that would do that!
There's some equipment, the only one that comes to mind immediately is {Basilisk Collar}
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: DrainCleaner on June 13, 2014, 06:13:44 PM
Throw some equipment like a
{Loxodon Warhammer} or a {Batterskull} or even just a {Basilisk Collar} on him.
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: Munchlax on June 13, 2014, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on June 13, 2014, 06:13:44 PM
Throw some equipment like a
{Loxodon Warhammer} or a {Batterskull} or even just a {Basilisk Collar} on him.
I'll need to get those then! Thank you! Does this website have a karma system like Reddit?
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: particle on June 13, 2014, 06:22:08 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on June 13, 2014, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on June 13, 2014, 06:13:44 PM
Throw some equipment like a
{Loxodon Warhammer} or a {Batterskull} or even just a {Basilisk Collar} on him.

I'll need to get those then! Thank you! Does this website have a karma system like Reddit?

indeed. "like" or "dont" after clicking on a post.
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: DrainCleaner on June 13, 2014, 06:23:10 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on June 13, 2014, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on June 13, 2014, 06:13:44 PM
Throw some equipment like a
{Loxodon Warhammer} or a {Batterskull} or even just a {Basilisk Collar} on him.
I'll need to get those then! Thank you! Does this website have a karma system like Reddit?

Lol yea touch a post and hit like. Its that number under peoples names and pics.
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: Munchlax on June 13, 2014, 10:38:31 PM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on June 13, 2014, 06:23:10 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on June 13, 2014, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on June 13, 2014, 06:13:44 PM
Throw some equipment like a
{Loxodon Warhammer} or a {Batterskull} or even just a {Basilisk Collar} on him.
I'll need to get those then! Thank you! Does this website have a karma system like Reddit?

Lol yea touch a post and hit like. Its that number under peoples names and pics.
I can't yet :(
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on June 14, 2014, 12:31:50 AM
You need... 100 posts I think? Just keep posting and then you can like/dislike posts
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: Pi on June 17, 2014, 03:39:05 PM
Not to rain on your parade, but in an attempt to educate you, this combo was posted here several months ago. You do need 100 posts to edit karma and only 1 like per 24 hours. To get more posts, I would recommend playing a wall game. If you need more pointers, we have a section labeled welcome four new users
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: Munchlax on June 17, 2014, 03:41:23 PM
Quote from: Pi on June 17, 2014, 03:39:05 PM
Not to rain on your parade, but in an attempt to educate you, this combo was posted here several months ago. You do need 100 posts to edit karma and only 1 like per 24 hours. To get more posts, I would recommend playing a wall game. If you need more pointers, we have a section labeled welcome four new users
Thank you! I'll be sure to look through it
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: Pi on June 17, 2014, 03:52:47 PM
I almost forgot about the original post, {curse of bloodletting} and {gratuitous violence} double damage and I would recommend something like {fervor} or {racecourse fury} to give him haste
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 24, 2014, 05:37:40 PM
Question/combo improvement. If you give him lifelink do you gain the life before or after your life is halfed? I assume after in which case you still need to keep yourself alive. (So you don't die as a SBA) Tap, half everyone, then gain it /all/ back. Brilliance. In which case lifelinking in red (ha) and artifact are needed to take this combo the extra mile. {Basalisk Collar} is the first thing that comes to mind but it's a tad expensive. You also need to keep him alive especially once he gets lifelink. {Darksteel Plate} perhaps?

Basically you get to majorly up your life total each turn while halfing everybody else's. And like all good multiplayer decks you're more effective with more people playing.

Sadly I've brainstormed all this and it turns out my dad ended up drafting  {Heartless Hidetsugu}. Might have to trade it off him as he already owns {Krenko, Mob Boss} as a red Commamder.
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: particle on June 25, 2014, 11:22:50 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 24, 2014, 05:37:40 PM
Question/combo improvement. If you give him lifelink do you gain the life before or after your life is halfed? I assume after in which case you still need to keep yourself alive. (So you don't die as a SBA) Tap, half everyone, then gain it /all/ back. Brilliance. In which case lifelinking in red (ha) and artifact are needed to take this combo the extra mile. {Basalisk Collar} is the first thing that comes to mind but it's a tad expensive. You also need to keep him alive especially once he gets lifelink. {Darksteel Plate} perhaps?

Basically you get to majorly up your life total each turn while halfing everybody else's. And like all good multiplayer decks you're more effective with more people playing.

Sadly I've brainstormed all this and it turns out my dad ended up drafting  {Heartless Hidetsugu}. Might have to trade it off him as he already owns {Krenko, Mob Boss} as a red Commamder.

lifelink is not a trigger. it is a quality of damage. so it happens at the same time as damage and you wont die as sba in between.
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 25, 2014, 02:16:17 PM
Quote from: particle on June 25, 2014, 11:22:50 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 24, 2014, 05:37:40 PM
Question/combo improvement. If you give him lifelink do you gain the life before or after your life is halfed? I assume after in which case you still need to keep yourself alive. (So you don't die as a SBA) Tap, half everyone, then gain it /all/ back. Brilliance. In which case lifelinking in red (ha) and artifact are needed to take this combo the extra mile. {Basalisk Collar} is the first thing that comes to mind but it's a tad expensive. You also need to keep him alive especially once he gets lifelink. {Darksteel Plate} perhaps?

Basically you get to majorly up your life total each turn while halfing everybody else's. And like all good multiplayer decks you're more effective with more people playing.

Sadly I've brainstormed all this and it turns out my dad ended up drafting  {Heartless Hidetsugu}. Might have to trade it off him as he already owns {Krenko, Mob Boss} as a red Commamder.

lifelink is not a trigger. it is a quality of damage. so it happens at the same time as damage and you wont die as sba in between.

That's insane. {Heartless Hidesugu} is now on my top threats list.
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on June 26, 2014, 01:23:49 PM
You could equip {inquisitors flail} to it and make it easier
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: TheRagingMage on June 26, 2014, 02:19:28 PM
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on June 26, 2014, 01:23:49 PM
You could equip {inquisitors flail} to it and make it easier
That's only for combat damage, though.
Title: Re: Heartless Furnace
Post by: particle on June 26, 2014, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: Gleemax on June 26, 2014, 02:19:28 PM
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on June 26, 2014, 01:23:49 PM
You could equip {inquisitors flail} to it and make it easier
That's only for combat damage, though.

yea that would just make him easier to kill.