Gorzo... That's all this thread is, me, missing Gorzo :/
I sent him a pm last month :( I miss him too :'(
I don't :)
Nothing personal I just had to neg that comment :P
Yes Gorzo was a karma .bore. ;)
:D that he was :P
Piotr you just mad cause gorzos advice was more useful and people actually cared about what he said unlike you.
I'm not mad, I simply do not miss him. I appreciate that he was useful in Rules, but he completely failed to grasp the idea of 'no victim no crime' and logic of iMtG law. He also handled himself really poorly in the events leading to his departure.
Quote from: Taysby on June 14, 2014, 10:13:05 AM
Ummmmm... No.
Are you saying that he was no good in Rules? :P
I miss black jester. :(
Quote from: Taysby on June 14, 2014, 01:14:04 PM
No, I'm saying he handled himself well prior to his leaving. Didn't you notice everyone agreed with him but you?
He handled himself very poorly by inciting mob, not at all directly confronting me, and splitting the forum. He was proven wrong in the end and the ban of Aa was absolutely justified.
Do we really need this argument to start again? It's a moot point- Gorzo hasn't been on in months. Yes many of us miss him but the situation is over and done with, for better or for worse.
Quote from: Piotr on June 14, 2014, 05:07:14 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 14, 2014, 01:14:04 PM
No, I'm saying he handled himself well prior to his leaving. Didn't you notice everyone agreed with him but you?
He handled himself very poorly by inciting mob, not at all directly confronting me, and splitting the forum. He was proven wrong in the end and the ban of Aa was absolutely justified.
FACEPALM EMOJI SAYS NO.
AA was banned for stating that unproven biased pieces of socialist propaganda is a proven fact. After she did it first time, she was clearly warned. She ignored the warning and repeated her lies, claiming that links which she posted contained proofs of her claims. As a punishment she was banned for 10 days.
Subsequent split in the forum led by Gorzo was started without a single pm from him to me.
These are facts.
Let's stop talking about this, preserve the peace, not incite mob, etcetera etcetera.
I cannot sit here and let you slander a good person's name. Looking at the evidence presented, let us pick apart everything you said.
1. AA posted what he believed in, and you hated that he did that, so you banned him. Don't sugarcoat it.
2. You complain about his views being socialist. Just in time to compliment your new 100 cap rule. Making everyone from 100 and up, practically equal. Very communist, and very hypocritical. And to continue with that statement, yes I know you can always check your profile, but in the end, who really will.
3. You claim Gorzo incited a mob against you, and that he led the ones who were against you. In actuality, there was already a split. He was gone for the time while this whole fiasco took place. He joined a side, and spoke his mind. In the end, you just want to blame him. Why you may ask? He was more popular then you, and people followed him because he was so strongly respected. That 721 karma didn't appear because he was just an average guy. You choose the only way to get people to forget such a great person is to slander his name, and hide how liked he was behind a karma cap of 100. I refuse to let you misinform new members about such a wonderful person. So let me tell you all about Gorzo.
Gorzo was a helpful, fun loving magic player. A former moderater that always knew how to make people laugh. He gave suggestions for decks that were well received. He was a great addition to the rules section, and a great friend. He didn't let people be bullied and he stood up for himself, and for those around him. I am privileged to know him, and to continue to know him.
Excuse my ignorance, but I thought AA only got a temporary ban?
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 15, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but I thought AA only got a temporary ban?
Technically yes, I do believe it was permaban and then everyone got angry. Fiasco, people leave, .poo. happened.
On behalf of Gorzo, I would like to inform you all that he misses you!
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on June 15, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 15, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but I thought AA only got a temporary ban?
Technically yes, I do believe it was permaban and then everyone got angry. Fiasco, people leave, .poo. happened.
You stinking liar.
Wasn't it a temp ban, but she left afterwards?
Quote from: Piotr on June 15, 2014, 06:11:41 PM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on June 15, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 15, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but I thought AA only got a temporary ban?
Technically yes, I do believe it was permaban and then everyone got angry. Fiasco, people leave, .poo. happened.
You stinking liar.
Was this serious or a joke? Because that's not a lie at all, it's clear he actually thinks that.
Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on June 15, 2014, 06:35:54 PM
Quote from: Piotr on June 15, 2014, 06:11:41 PM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on June 15, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 15, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but I thought AA only got a temporary ban?
Technically yes, I do believe it was permaban and then everyone got angry. Fiasco, people leave, .poo. happened.
You stinking liar.
Was this serious or a joke? Because that's not a lie at all, it's clear he actually thinks that.
I honestly forgot it's been so long ago. I'll have to go check again.
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on June 15, 2014, 06:38:02 PM
Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on June 15, 2014, 06:35:54 PM
Quote from: Piotr on June 15, 2014, 06:11:41 PM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on June 15, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 15, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but I thought AA only got a temporary ban?
Technically yes, I do believe it was permaban and then everyone got angry. Fiasco, people leave, .poo. happened.
You stinking liar.
Was this serious or a joke? Because that's not a lie at all, it's clear he actually thinks that.
I honestly forgot it's been so long ago. I'll have to go check again.
In 10 days tell us what you have found, liar. You were a mod then and part of the mob. Disgusting.
:I is all I can say.
Oh boy... Things are going to get fun again...
Quote from: Piotr on June 15, 2014, 06:40:00 PM
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Quote from: Piotr on June 15, 2014, 06:11:41 PM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on June 15, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 15, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but I thought AA only got a temporary ban?
Technically yes, I do believe it was permaban and then everyone got angry. Fiasco, people leave, .poo. happened.
You stinking liar.
Was this serious or a joke? Because that's not a lie at all, it's clear he actually thinks that.
I honestly forgot it's been so long ago. I'll have to go check again.
In 10 days tell us what you have found, liar. You were a mod then and part of the mob. Disgusting.
Hahaha good god. I was thinking I missed being a mod, but I was right in stepping down. I don't want to represent that.
I made this thread to honor and miss the people we lost. Not to argue.
If you're argueing on this thread, GET THE .love. OFF.
If you want to argue, start a new thread. Get off of mine
Quote from: DylanW18 on June 15, 2014, 06:56:17 PM
If you want to argue, start a new thread. Get off of mine
Start paying for the patronage so you can mod around your threads. Until then, you have no property right here.
Just like everyone else here, I don't have any say. Awesome
Am I gonna get banned too?
Quote from: DylanW18 on June 15, 2014, 07:02:24 PM
Am I gonna get banned too?
I do not ban people for disagreeing with me. I ban people who openly hate me, or who lie, or who steal.
I don't hate you Piotr, I love all humans. But, just so you know, I dislike you a lot
Fair enough :)
Quote from: DylanW18 on June 15, 2014, 07:08:10 PM
I don't hate you Piotr, I love all humans. But, just so you know, I dislike you a lot
Ohhhhhhhh
<3 can someone post on my behalf and tell everyone that I miss them -Gorzo
Quote from: Skyshadow731 on June 15, 2014, 07:54:11 PM
<3 can someone post on my behalf and tell everyone that I miss them -Gorzo
we miss you too, Gorzo!
Quote from: Silent1236 on June 15, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
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Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on June 15, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 15, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but I thought AA only got a temporary ban?
Technically yes, I do believe it was permaban and then everyone got angry. Fiasco, people leave, .poo. happened.
You stinking liar.
Was this serious or a joke? Because that's not a lie at all, it's clear he actually thinks that.
I honestly forgot it's been so long ago. I'll have to go check again.
In 10 days tell us what you have found, liar. You were a mod then and part of the mob. Disgusting.
Hahaha good god. I was thinking I missed being a mod, but I was right in stepping down. I don't want to represent that.
I'm glad you resigned, you like Gorzo failed to grasp that mods do not represent me or this community, they represent the law.
I remember very clearly how much hate Flicker has thrown at me that night, standing in the mob with Kuberr. Disgusting, because it was Gorzo who incited that mob, it was him who was suggesting that I was banning people left and right while I banned one person for 10 days after clear warning. Gorzo was spreading lies.
Quote from: Gorzo on February 27, 2014, 05:31:26 AM
My god. I spent all day out, and came back to quite the storm, huh?
I will be honest, I, too, am on the fence. I'm really sick of seeing Piotr treat people as if they are insignificant or lesser than he is. It's not acceptable. I have no intentions of backing down when I see hypocrisy, bullying, and/or speaking down on you all. I will not back down to threats. I will not stop standing up for myself, for my friends.
But from what I/we have witnessed as of late, this type of behavior gets one banned. Rather abruptly. So, I do not know what will come of this mess.
But I love the rest of you. And I want to be sure to keep in touch. So I post this contact info with open arms, no matter what happens - leave or stay.
Gorzothemighty06@gmail.com
(I admittedly do not check my email often, so don't count on a fast reply lol)
(614) 330-0971
Call or text any time! Just note that I don't answer/respond to numbers I don't know, so leave a message and tell me who the hell you are :) )
I will have this info on my private page as well.
Goodnight! Please no more huge blow-ups before I check in tomorrow - please?
This is the first post Gorzo made about the whole thing. This would have been posted after things started happening. I don't think Gorzo led anything, he just took a side.
As for the law, it is still
your law, correct?
Quote from: Gorzo on February 28, 2014, 04:01:00 AM
Agrus didn't leave, he was permanent-banned. You know, because he dared to speak his opinion. You just can't easily know this, because someone deleted the post (another hypocrisy and violation of forum rules) because it dared to insult him.
This is the last lie Gorzo said here, this is his last post. He used naive people like Flicker, Taysby, Agrus and scum like Kuberr to create a mob and filled this mob with hate for me.
Quote from: Silent1236 on June 16, 2014, 07:34:21 AM
As for the law, it is still your law, correct?
Not at all mine, lol.
Quote from: Gorzo on February 27, 2014, 05:31:26 AM
I'm really sick of seeing Piotr treat people as if they are insignificant or lesser than he is. It's not acceptable. I have no intentions of backing down when I see hypocrisy, bullying, and/or speaking down on you all. I will not back down to threats. I will not stop standing up for myself, for my friends.
But from what I/we have witnessed as of late, this type of behavior gets one banned. Rather abruptly.
Thanks for posting this. None of what Gorzo lied about me here is true. Hate directed at me is clearly visible.
Quote from: Piotr on June 16, 2014, 08:24:47 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 27, 2014, 05:31:26 AM
I'm really sick of seeing Piotr treat people as if they are insignificant or lesser than he is. It's not acceptable. I have no intentions of backing down when I see hypocrisy, bullying, and/or speaking down on you all. I will not back down to threats. I will not stop standing up for myself, for my friends.
But from what I/we have witnessed as of late, this type of behavior gets one banned. Rather abruptly.
Thanks for posting this. None of what Gorzo lied about me here is true. Hate directed at me is clearly visible.
Would you be willing to accept Gorzo if he returned? Obviously not as a moderator, but as a community member?
I for one really miss Gorzo. It seems to me, though I wasn't here to witness this fiasco, that there was admittedly some wrong on either side. Gorzo was a massive and helpful contributor to the community, and honestly was my introduction to becoming an active member. to me at least, Gorzo was a role model, and it hurts me to not see him back at helping out new members.
It's been months, Piotr, what do you say? Maybe some forgiveness is in order?
Quote from: Xaol on June 16, 2014, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Piotr on June 16, 2014, 08:24:47 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 27, 2014, 05:31:26 AM
I'm really sick of seeing Piotr treat people as if they are insignificant or lesser than he is. It's not acceptable. I have no intentions of backing down when I see hypocrisy, bullying, and/or speaking down on you all. I will not back down to threats. I will not stop standing up for myself, for my friends.
But from what I/we have witnessed as of late, this type of behavior gets one banned. Rather abruptly.
Thanks for posting this. None of what Gorzo lied about me here is true. Hate directed at me is clearly visible.
Would you be willing to accept Gorzo if he returned? Obviously not as a moderator, but as a community member?
I for one really miss Gorzo. It seems to me, though I wasn't here to witness this fiasco, that there was admittedly some wrong on either side. Gorzo was a massive and helpful contributor to the community, and honestly was my introduction to becoming an active member. to me at least, Gorzo was a role model, and it hurts me to not see him back at helping out new members.
It's been months, Piotr, what do you say? Maybe some forgiveness is in order?
Gorzo was never banned, he left on his own. Stop portraying me as if I were banning people left and right, for .loves. sake. In 3 years of this forum I only banned maybe a dozen people or so, and every single one of them for a good reason.
Quote from: Piotr on June 16, 2014, 10:04:47 AM
Quote from: Xaol on June 16, 2014, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Piotr on June 16, 2014, 08:24:47 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 27, 2014, 05:31:26 AM
I'm really sick of seeing Piotr treat people as if they are insignificant or lesser than he is. It's not acceptable. I have no intentions of backing down when I see hypocrisy, bullying, and/or speaking down on you all. I will not back down to threats. I will not stop standing up for myself, for my friends.
But from what I/we have witnessed as of late, this type of behavior gets one banned. Rather abruptly.
Thanks for posting this. None of what Gorzo lied about me here is true. Hate directed at me is clearly visible.
Would you be willing to accept Gorzo if he returned? Obviously not as a moderator, but as a community member?
I for one really miss Gorzo. It seems to me, though I wasn't here to witness this fiasco, that there was admittedly some wrong on either side. Gorzo was a massive and helpful contributor to the community, and honestly was my introduction to becoming an active member. to me at least, Gorzo was a role model, and it hurts me to not see him back at helping out new members.
It's been months, Piotr, what do you say? Maybe some forgiveness is in order?
Gorzo was never banned, he left on his own. Stop portraying me as if I were banning people left and right, for .loves. sake. In 3 years of this forum I only banned maybe a dozen people or so, and every single one of them for a good reason.
Oh no! I apologise if that's the message you were getting.
I mean to say- I think Gorzo was a great member of the community, and he will come back if I talk to him (I hope) and you're okay with it. It is your app, after all, all things said and done.
Hopefully that's a bit clearer. I didn't mean to cast you as the ban hammer ;P
Taysby, reality is all relative. For your age you may be pretty wise, but you are still very naive to me.
Xaol, no worries. I don't think you can make Gorzo change his mind, good luck ;)
This is what I had to say to his last words here:
Quote from: Piotr on February 28, 2014, 04:25:45 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 27, 2014, 07:53:38 PM
I'm still here, but I'm pretty sure I'm on borrowed time.
Why, do you plan to do something classy like mikefrompluto?
Quote from: Gorzo on February 27, 2014, 07:53:38 PM
And I know he hates the crap out of me.
Wow, how do you know that?
Quote from: Piotr on February 28, 2014, 06:41:14 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 28, 2014, 04:01:00 AM
Agrus didn't leave, he was permanent-banned. You know, because he dared to speak his opinion. You just can't easily know this, because someone deleted the post (another hypocrisy and violation of forum rules) because it dared to insult him.
No, because he insulted me rather obviously in his last post. But do not let the facts cramp your style, please continue your petty lies.
Just to clear that last one - we are back to normal with Agrus, he apologised and I accepted. Mikefrompluto was the other 50% of the people banned during the events ( 2 people total ) and exactly the same happened, he apologised and I accepted. Mike's old account is still banned but he is with us as shadowbarbarian (I think).
"please continue your petty lies" = I don't mind :D
I don't hate Gorzo, I love all humans. But, just so you know, I hate some of the things they do.
Naive is the perfect word to describe Taysby! 😱
Quote from: gtfotis on June 16, 2014, 11:27:03 AM
Naive is the perfect word to describe Taysby! 😱
*insert vaguely pedophilic joke here*
Quote from: Taysby on June 16, 2014, 08:46:39 PM
I do my reaserch (when it doesn't appear someone did good enough research for me). I try to keep up to date. I may not be wise, but I don't think I'm naive.
To not be naive isn't something that comes with research or education. It's something that comes with real world experience. I'm 24 and still extremely naive to most things. Every year, every experience you go through teaches you what to look out for and to account for. When I was 18, I was extremely smart for my age, thought I knew it all about .politics., science, math, history, and people. But every time I would encounter a situation where I had to apply my knowledge I quickly learned that there were a thousand things I never knew to look for. A million different ideas and modivations that I never knew about behind what I thought I knew.
So yes you are extremely naive. We all are and were. You may be well informed but you haven't lived most of what you talk about yet. Hell I haven't. I've just learned that I barely learned anything yet. So don't take being called naive in this sense an insult.
Oh my god Gorzo told me that he made cookies in memory of us :'( :'( I dedicate this sad saxophone music to him now ok
Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on June 16, 2014, 09:48:11 PM
Oh my god Gorzo told me that he made cookies in memory of us :'( :'( I dedicate this sad saxophone music to him now ok
Was mine white chocolate chip?!
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Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on June 16, 2014, 09:48:11 PM
Oh my god Gorzo told me that he made cookies in memory of us :'( :'( I dedicate this sad saxophone music to him now ok
Was mine white chocolate chip?!
No yours was yellow chocolate chip ;) lol sorry had to :)
He said chocolate chip and nuts </3
I sent him an email :)
He said he was doing a movie thing with friends tonight so wait a little.
Quote from: Taysby on June 16, 2014, 11:38:17 PM
i sent him an email saying what happened to his karma. i haven't heard back, but i don't think he's happy. ;)
He already heard about it through the Facebook group, he wasn't.. not happy. 😛
Quote from: gtfotis on June 17, 2014, 02:05:30 AM
Quote from: Taysby on June 16, 2014, 11:38:17 PM
i sent him an email saying what happened to his karma. i haven't heard back, but i don't think he's happy. ;)
He already heard about it through the Facebook group, he wasn't.. not happy. 😛
What Facebook group?
Quote from: Xaol on June 17, 2014, 10:43:25 AM
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Quote from: Taysby on June 16, 2014, 11:38:17 PM
i sent him an email saying what happened to his karma. i haven't heard back, but i don't think he's happy. ;)
He already heard about it through the Facebook group, he wasn't.. not happy. 😛
What Facebook group?
The Magicy one. Send me your email and I can send you an invite. It has a good majority of the family there.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 17, 2014, 10:48:23 AM
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Quote from: Taysby on June 16, 2014, 11:38:17 PM
i sent him an email saying what happened to his karma. i haven't heard back, but i don't think he's happy. ;)
He already heard about it through the Facebook group, he wasn't.. not happy. 😛
What Facebook group?
The Magicy one. Send me your email and I can send you an invite. It has a good majority of the family there.
If it's a family, who's the creepy uncle?
Lol.
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Quote from: Taysby on June 16, 2014, 11:38:17 PM
i sent him an email saying what happened to his karma. i haven't heard back, but i don't think he's happy. ;)
He already heard about it through the Facebook group, he wasn't.. not happy. 😛
What Facebook group?
The Magicy one. Send me your email and I can send you an invite. It has a good majority of the family there.
If it's a family, who's the creepy uncle?
Me, because I just linger and read the threads creepily in the corner while not actually commenting until absolutely necessary... Wait... Crap...
Quote from: Spencer Addington on June 17, 2014, 11:09:27 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 17, 2014, 10:48:23 AM
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Quote from: Taysby on June 16, 2014, 11:38:17 PM
i sent him an email saying what happened to his karma. i haven't heard back, but i don't think he's happy. ;)
He already heard about it through the Facebook group, he wasn't.. not happy. 😛
What Facebook group?
The Magicy one. Send me your email and I can send you an invite. It has a good majority of the family there.
If it's a family, who's the creepy uncle?
Is it too early to say Sparkle? Or too far?