Users accused: Sparkle Ninja
Victims: Muggywuggy
Summary: Agreed upon trade and user has not delivered.
Preliminary Evidence:
Agreed upon trade, sparkle says their end was sent, then sent again as there is postal issues. This was my 2nd flag, first being the "thanks for sending first, ill send my end now" message after I assumed we both sent our ends.
I allowed time for sparkles end to arrive, then started to pm this last week about the whereabouts, sparkle ignored multiple PMs and feigns ignorance about not receiving messages but has done nothing to acknowledge the missing cards. I even asked sparkle to admit to not having sent the cards yet, and was just lagging, I just wanted the truth.
It's $12 worth of cards and this user has been spouting BS since day 1 of their presence on this forum, from having every card/sealed booster box/winning every game and opening every super pack. It's been so obvious and we as a community have tolerated it loosely.
Now stealing from another user from the trade forum is another thing. The trade forum is the last place for honest trades and this person found their personal greed for some cards more important than an agreement they made. Users like this are parasites to our community that we must remove permanently.
PMs will be posted after sparkles response if any
How long have you waited?
I'm not surprised at all ... No offense Sparkle (and I know nothing's been proven but still) I've never liked you, you were always rude ...
Ooo gurl u ratchet
Seriously though, anybody else have trouble with her?
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 17, 2014, 03:07:52 PM
I donr really care which art. My address is ********** Plymouth WI.
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 27, 2014, 05:19:11 PM
I reieved on Friday so I sent today. Thank you for sendng first!
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 06, 2014, 07:08:59 AM
Oh god I just got these so I apologise for not responding to them. {Also I sent two of the sane package to you recently Hoping one would make it. }I have been having trouble with the postal service where I am but I don't have time to go anywhere else.
And now the latest messages "I swear I just got the message!" Yet this person is on the app every day. I haven't smelt BS this bad since passing a cow farm on the I-5 fwy
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 11, 2014, 01:07:04 AM
I'm not surprised at all ... No offense Sparkle (and I know nothing's been proven but still) I've never liked you, you were always rude ...
I'm with Matt. Now, this is just me (thats trying to major in Psychology) but it seems like because she's a female on a make dominant forums with people like Taysbe ( ;) ) she feels like she can play god.
Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on June 11, 2014, 01:17:26 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 11, 2014, 01:07:04 AM
I'm not surprised at all ... No offense Sparkle (and I know nothing's been proven but still) I've never liked you, you were always rude ...
I'm with Matt. Now, this is just me (thats trying to major in Psychology) but it seems like because she's a female on a make dominant forums with people like Taysbe ( ;) ) she feels like she can play god.
Can we confirm she's female? Her fb from our fb group is obvi a fake account ..
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 11, 2014, 01:19:12 AM
Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on June 11, 2014, 01:17:26 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 11, 2014, 01:07:04 AM
I'm not surprised at all ... No offense Sparkle (and I know nothing's been proven but still) I've never liked you, you were always rude ...
I'm with Matt. Now, this is just me (thats trying to major in Psychology) but it seems like because she's a female on a make dominant forums with people like Taysbe ( ;) ) she feels like she can play god.
Can we confirm she's female? Her fb from our fb group is obvi a fake account ..
I have to resist making a dick joke too hard right now.
I googled the name in the town and Quinn is a high school musical kid who performed as the scarecrow in wizard of the oz
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 11, 2014, 02:43:21 AM
I googled the name in the town and Quinn is a high school musical kid who performed as the scarecrow in wizard of the oz
Quinn is a guys name and a girls name lol WE NEED MORE INFO lol
Seemed like a guy from the pictures
Quote from: Noblellama on June 11, 2014, 11:48:30 AM
She has posted that she was born male and has undergone transition to what she feels is the accurate external reflection of her inner self, not trying to take sides guys but a persons gender has nothing to do with their trust worthiness or mentality, it is merely an after the fact judgement as we know that other girls on here are perfectly wonderful traders. I'm a tolerant person but leave gender at the door when judging a person please...
As for her presence on the forums, Cynthia has made many claims about cards and sealed boxes but we have never had evidence to confirm nor doubt her possession there of nor any reason to demand proof. Sure, she can be a bit standoffish at times but even I can be and I'm pretty laid back so again no judgment there.
As to trades, these I am super strict on, if she has slighted you then she needs to answer this.
As to people "having trouble with the post office" quit putting .poo. in your mail box with a stamp and hoping it works! Take that .poo. to the post office, wait in the .loving. line and talk to the worker and get them to weigh it, and accept your money and stamp it. Once it is stamped it is theirs to deal with and your cleared. That's why they have people there at the post office, peace of mind. There are 5 ways for your package to not get shipped between your hands and the post office if you stick it in your mail box, let's remove some of the probability and be honest in your trades.
End rant (for now)
Gender doesn't have anything to do with it we (rather I) was just pointing out that I thought that they lied about gender therefore what else have they lied about
Quote from: Taysby on June 11, 2014, 12:35:27 PM
Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on June 11, 2014, 01:17:26 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 11, 2014, 01:07:04 AM
I'm not surprised at all ... No offense Sparkle (and I know nothing's been proven but still) I've never liked you, you were always rude ...
I'm with Matt. Now, this is just me (thats trying to major in Psychology) but it seems like because she's a female on a make dominant forums with people like Taysbe ( ;) ) she feels like she can play god.
Just what are you insinuating? (No really, I couldn't tell what you meant)
When she had her Cynthia cosplay as her gravatar? Remember?
So I can't tell but is this resolved yet or what's the deal? I'd hate to jump to any conclusions about fellow users.
Quote from: Noblellama on June 11, 2014, 12:11:42 PM
Fair enough, sorry for that part, just wanting to make sure a persons personal rights were staying protected and no one was being sexist or intolerant, not pointing fingers, just heading off the mob...
I have no problem with a transgendered person, in fact, I have a second cousin who is fully transitioned. That aside; the questioning of sparkles integrity of what they post was the subject matter. I've been around the block enough to smell BS.
Sparkle exhibits behavior patterns similar to that of a child/minor: most trading problems with sending mail is usually due to someone being a minor and relying on their parents to send stuff. Not saying this is the case with all minors, but most bad transactions here are due to that.
Lying about a grandeur collection; playsets of alpha/beta and extra dual lands, but when asked to trade "Oh I just traded it yesterday and all I have is my playset"
It's obvious this person is a liar. The Internet has taught us when to question people's word for the actual truth. I'm pretty sure every person here has felt it at some point that sparkle has lied about something in sparkles daily life.
-the wedding that took place on a Monday/Tuesday with a booster box draft of zendikar or something? Where are the pictures?? I believe the draft lasted longer than the wedding?
-the cosplay pic is a pretty commonly circulated one on tumblr also, that's been around for quite some time
-someone writes an impressive pull post; sparkle replies with "I opened a vintage pack today of worldwake and got a fetch land and a a foil jace!!!!!"
It's all obvious bullshit.
And still I said to myself, maybe this kid is just trying to figure themselves out, whatever, as long as the person is truthful about trade transactions, there shouldn't be any real problem.
I was to receive 2 champion of the parish, 1 Thalia and some other thing. Which I actually needed; clearly sparkle is making a themed deck for a full playset of urza lands.
Now for a playset of each Urza Land and a Glissa that sparkle had messaged me multiple times to trade out, this person has tarnished their reputation, possible irreversibly.
This person continues to post here without acknowledging any messages I ever sent. Im pretty tolerant and easy going, but the second I know you're trying to dupe me; I will open a can of whoop ass on you.
Liars will be found and called out in this forum as long as I'm around.
I know this is a trial thread but i just wanted to throw in how he/she always downs people and tells them stupid bullshit that isn't even true
Not only that, he/she is
A BIG PHAT PHONIE (family guy quote)
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 11, 2014, 03:09:47 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 11, 2014, 12:11:42 PM
Fair enough, sorry for that part, just wanting to make sure a persons personal rights were staying protected and no one was being sexist or intolerant, not pointing fingers, just heading off the mob...
I have no problem with a transgendered person, in fact, I have a second cousin who is fully transitioned. That aside; the questioning of sparkles integrity of what they post was the subject matter. I've been around the block enough to smell BS.
Sparkle exhibits behavior patterns similar to that of a child/minor: most trading problems with sending mail is usually due to someone being a minor and relying on their parents to send stuff. Not saying this is the case with all minors, but most bad transactions here are due to that.
Lying about a grandeur collection; playsets of alpha/beta and extra dual lands, but when asked to trade "Oh I just traded it yesterday and all I have is my playset"
It's obvious this person is a liar. The Internet has taught us when to question people's word for the actual truth. I'm pretty sure every person here has felt it at some point that sparkle has lied about something in sparkles daily life.
-the wedding that took place on a Monday/Tuesday with a booster box draft of zendikar or something? Where are the pictures?? I believe the draft lasted longer than the wedding?
-the cosplay pic is a pretty commonly circulated one on tumblr also, that's been around for quite some time
-someone writes an impressive pull post; sparkle replies with "I opened a vintage pack today of worldwake and got a fetch land and a a foil jace!!!!!"
It's all obvious bullshit.
And still I said to myself, maybe this kid is just trying to figure themselves out, whatever, as long as the person is truthful about trade transactions, there shouldn't be any real problem.
I was to receive 2 champion of the parish, 1 Thalia and some other thing. Which I actually needed; clearly sparkle is making a themed deck for a full playset of urza lands.
Now for a playset of each Urza Land and a Glissa that sparkle had messaged me multiple times to trade out, this person has tarnished their reputation, possible irreversibly.
This person continues to post here without acknowledging any messages I ever sent. Im pretty tolerant and easy going, but the second I know you're trying to dupe me; I will open a can of whoop ass on you.
Liars will be found and called out in this forum as long as I'm around.
We moderators have been discussing/support this claim. SparkleNinja has told numerous lies, and thank you for explaining them so well, MW.
At the very least Sparkle has flagrantly broken the law of "Do Not Lie", regardless of trade incidents.
Quote from: Xaol on June 11, 2014, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 11, 2014, 03:09:47 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 11, 2014, 12:11:42 PM
Fair enough, sorry for that part, just wanting to make sure a persons personal rights were staying protected and no one was being sexist or intolerant, not pointing fingers, just heading off the mob...
I have no problem with a transgendered person, in fact, I have a second cousin who is fully transitioned. That aside; the questioning of sparkles integrity of what they post was the subject matter. I've been around the block enough to smell BS.
Sparkle exhibits behavior patterns similar to that of a child/minor: most trading problems with sending mail is usually due to someone being a minor and relying on their parents to send stuff. Not saying this is the case with all minors, but most bad transactions here are due to that.
Lying about a grandeur collection; playsets of alpha/beta and extra dual lands, but when asked to trade "Oh I just traded it yesterday and all I have is my playset"
It's obvious this person is a liar. The Internet has taught us when to question people's word for the actual truth. I'm pretty sure every person here has felt it at some point that sparkle has lied about something in sparkles daily life.
-the wedding that took place on a Monday/Tuesday with a booster box draft of zendikar or something? Where are the pictures?? I believe the draft lasted longer than the wedding?
-the cosplay pic is a pretty commonly circulated one on tumblr also, that's been around for quite some time
-someone writes an impressive pull post; sparkle replies with "I opened a vintage pack today of worldwake and got a fetch land and a a foil jace!!!!!"
It's all obvious bullshit.
And still I said to myself, maybe this kid is just trying to figure themselves out, whatever, as long as the person is truthful about trade transactions, there shouldn't be any real problem.
I was to receive 2 champion of the parish, 1 Thalia and some other thing. Which I actually needed; clearly sparkle is making a themed deck for a full playset of urza lands.
Now for a playset of each Urza Land and a Glissa that sparkle had messaged me multiple times to trade out, this person has tarnished their reputation, possible irreversibly.
This person continues to post here without acknowledging any messages I ever sent. Im pretty tolerant and easy going, but the second I know you're trying to dupe me; I will open a can of whoop ass on you.
Liars will be found and called out in this forum as long as I'm around.
We moderators have been discussing/support this claim. SparkleNinja has told numerous lies, and thank you for explaining them so well, MW.
At the very least Sparkle has flagrantly broken the law of "Do Not Lie", regardless of trade incidents.
amen brother
Muggy, if you ever do it to me could it be diet whoop ass? I'm a diabetic.
Let's hope for a reply for Sparkle soon. Will be watching her activity to see if she comes online. MW, have you I formed her of the trial?
Oh yea, I let sparkle know several times that it was getting to a trial. If needed I can post all my pms. Sparkle just feigns ignorance of getting notice of PMs.
I too pmed Sparkle
I'm not stealing from you. I swear. If I was stealing from you I would never have responded to you in the first place. I have not meant to harm anyone and all that you've been doing this entire time is pestering me. Two days after the trade was verified you asked if I had received. I'm not saying I'm not in the wrong I am merely saying that I am not a thief. I never meant to stir up anything. Now please. You should have your stuff by the end of the week or Monday. Just leave me alone
Still a liar and as xaol has said "iMTG ultimate law is do NOT lie"
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 11, 2014, 09:40:26 PM
I'm not stealing from you. I swear. If I was stealing from you I would never have responded to you in the first place. I have not meant to harm anyone and all that you've been doing this entire time is pestering me. Two days after the trade was verified you asked if I had received. I'm not saying I'm not in the wrong I am merely saying that I am not a thief. I never meant to stir up anything. Now please. You should have your stuff by the end of the week or Monday. Just leave me alone
You still need to respond to the other things he's accused you of, please. He can choose to lift charges on you in regards to your trade problem when he chooses (and I'm assuming when he receives will be the time he chooses to do so) but you stand accused of a bit more than just trade problems right now.
When it comes to a trade, frequent messaging is not pestering. Trading over the internet is a somewhat delicate process, because, even if it's a trusted trader, it might not get to it's destination. Constant communication puts people at ease and makes them more likely to trade with you. If you're in all the time, like myself, writing a simple message shouldn't take any time or effort. It's a simple thing.
Quote from: Spencer Addington on June 11, 2014, 10:00:21 PM
When it comes to a trade, frequent messaging is not pestering. Trading over the internet is a somewhat delicate process, because, even if it's a trusted trader, it might not get to it's destination. Constant communication puts people at ease and makes them more likely to trade with you. If you're in all the time, like myself, writing a simple message shouldn't take any time or effort. It's a simple thing.
Hmmm. Didn't really look at it like that. It was just starting to annoy me. Thanks for that bit of insight
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 11, 2014, 09:40:26 PM
I'm not stealing from you. I swear. If I was stealing from you I would never have responded to you in the first place. I have not meant to harm anyone and all that you've been doing this entire time is pestering me. Two days after the trade was verified you asked if I had received. I'm not saying I'm not in the wrong I am merely saying that I am not a thief. I never meant to stir up anything. Now please. You should have your stuff by the end of the week or Monday. Just leave me alone
This sounds like you're sending out the stuff this week. I even asked you for the honesty of having not sent. I PM'd you pretty spread out until you clearly started to ignore me. Don't make agreements with people you cannot keep
I remember calling he/her out about these rediculous claims about pulls in a thread and got a ton of crap for it.
Glad to see my BS meter is working perfectly.
"You! I wanna like you! Stop talking about change and just do it!"
Quote from: gtfotis on June 12, 2014, 12:41:34 AM
"You! I wanna like you! Stop talking about change and just do it!"
Abe.... I see what you did there...
Quote from: TreeSmoker on June 11, 2014, 09:47:58 PM
Still a liar and as xaol has said "iMTG ultimate law is do NOT lie"
TreeSmoker, I would just like to point out that you seem to be jumping on the bandwagon pretty hard here. You are not a victim of the alleged crime, yet you seem to be all to eager to throw your two cents in whenever someone makes a statement, and all too eager for some sort of confrontation. Is it wrong to just wish for everything to be resolved amicably?
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on June 12, 2014, 07:21:09 AM
Quote from: TreeSmoker on June 11, 2014, 09:47:58 PM
Still a liar and as xaol has said "iMTG ultimate law is do NOT lie"
TreeSmoker, I would just like to point out that you seem to be jumping on the bandwagon pretty hard here. You are not a victim of the alleged crime, yet you seem to be all to eager to throw your two cents in whenever someone makes a statement, and all too eager for some sort of confrontation. Is it wrong to just wish for everything to be resolved amicably?
no i do not
But she has victimized me as well in te past and her attitude needs to change.
Quote from: TreeSmoker on June 12, 2014, 07:59:30 AM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on June 12, 2014, 07:21:09 AM
Quote from: TreeSmoker on June 11, 2014, 09:47:58 PM
Still a liar and as xaol has said "iMTG ultimate law is do NOT lie"
TreeSmoker, I would just like to point out that you seem to be jumping on the bandwagon pretty hard here. You are not a victim of the alleged crime, yet you seem to be all to eager to throw your two cents in whenever someone makes a statement, and all too eager for some sort of confrontation. Is it wrong to just wish for everything to be resolved amicably?
no i do not
But she has victimized me as well in te past and her attitude needs to change.
My opinion so take it as is. But if you feel you've been victimized by her then bring it up in a neat, orderly, and most importantly, classy manner. Be it by posting examples on here or on your own trail. All you've done is muddy this trail by posting useless stuff that adds nothing of quality to this discussion either way. So please if you feel her attitude should change say so in a classy and respectful manner.
She has dogged almost everything i post even when it is fairly decent/good
Then i confront her in pm's and she pretty much just shoots me the bird. She's arrogant and if she wants to stay in this community, i feel her attitude needs to change and all the lieing stopped.
That better WH?
Quote from: TreeSmoker on June 12, 2014, 08:09:33 AM
She has dogged almost everything i post even when it is fairly decent/good
Then i confront her in pm's and she pretty much just shoots me the bird. She's arrogant and if she wants to stay in this community, i feel her attitude needs to change and all the lieing stopped
That better WH?
Post those messages, link the posts something. I'm asking you and everyone to keep it classy and not trash someone even if they are wrong. Be the bigger man and if you're right then use the evidence to back up your claims. All you were doing was jumping onto and fanning the flames of conflict in a legitimate discussion over a fellow forum members behavior. You understand? Now if you have further retorts or what ever please start a post or message me and let's keep this off this trail.
Still waiting on Sparkle's response to allegations of lying.
Quote from: Xaol on June 12, 2014, 11:16:34 AM
Still waiting on Sparkle's response to allegations of lying.
Still waiting on solid proof she didn't steal. Didn't mlerner say that same thing, how "it'll be there soon" and "I'm not stealing I sent a few days ago"?
Sparkle ya need to reply or else the ban-hammer will happen
🔨
Quote from: Spencer Addington on June 11, 2014, 10:00:21 PM
When it comes to a trade, frequent messaging is not pestering. Trading over the internet is a somewhat delicate process, because, even if it's a trusted trader, it might not get to it's destination. Constant communication puts people at ease and makes them more likely to trade with you. If you're in all the time, like myself, writing a simple message shouldn't take any time or effort. It's a simple thing.
It depends of what type of personality you are. If you are like me, communication with other people is never a simple thing.
Quote from: Xaol on June 11, 2014, 09:51:47 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 11, 2014, 09:40:26 PM
I'm not stealing from you. I swear. If I was stealing from you I would never have responded to you in the first place. I have not meant to harm anyone and all that you've been doing this entire time is pestering me. Two days after the trade was verified you asked if I had received. I'm not saying I'm not in the wrong I am merely saying that I am not a thief. I never meant to stir up anything. Now please. You should have your stuff by the end of the week or Monday. Just leave me alone
You still need to respond to the other things he's accused you of, please. He can choose to lift charges on you in regards to your trade problem when he chooses (and I'm assuming when he receives will be the time he chooses to do so) but you stand accused of a bit more than just trade problems right now.
Muggy also suggested that he is not the victim of the lies. No victim, no crime?
The entire community is the victim of her lies.
Quote from: TreeSmoker on June 12, 2014, 12:18:00 PM
The entire community is the victim of her lies.
We are all different individuals. What is good in your eyes can be evil in my eyes.
There is no such thing as the community when you are talking about victims.
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 12, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
Sparkle ya need to reply or else the ban-hammer will happen
🔨
Let's not jump to conclusions just yet, please ;)
I just want this person to be honest. It's $12 worth of cards and how this person is handling the trade is poorly.
Here's a post even confirming I requested sparkle to send first.
Quote
May 17, 2014, 02:35:16 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 17, 2014, 02:25:49 PM
What do you need?
Champ of parish x 3
Thalia
Drowned catacombs?
Sparkle Ninja
Re: (No subject)
May 17, 2014, 03:00:44 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 17, 2014, 02:38:28 PM
I think I could do that
Ok
My info
EA Anderson
**********
Los Angeles, CA 90046
Ill send after I receive or get tracking info
Have several different arts if you want for the urzas
Give email and I can send you back pics of choices or I can txt too (fastest IMO)
I had mistakenly assumed my end was from sparkle was in the mail already and sent her end out with about 6 other trades the same day
Quote from: Piotr on June 12, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 12, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
Sparkle ya need to reply or else the ban-hammer will happen
🔨
Let's not jump to conclusions just yet, please ;)
Thank you
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 12, 2014, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: Piotr on June 12, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 12, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
Sparkle ya need to reply or else the ban-hammer will happen
🔨
Let's not jump to conclusions just yet, please ;)
Thank you
You should totally address the allegations instead of just saying thank you..
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 12, 2014, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: Piotr on June 12, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 12, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
Sparkle ya need to reply or else the ban-hammer will happen
🔨
Let's not jump to conclusions just yet, please ;)
Thank you
This is looking terrible for you the more you ignore his allegations. I can't see how this couldn't have been settled with a simple messages back and forth. I personally have nothing against you sparkle and want this to clear up as neatly as possible but the longer this goes on the more it's going to hurt you and the community in the end.
Your word is your worth here. We've got little else to go on and if you don't live up to your word then what are you worth? So if you don't want to make your reasons public for what ever reasons just talk to muggy and work this out.
Quote from: Walkhard on June 12, 2014, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 12, 2014, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: Piotr on June 12, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 12, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
Sparkle ya need to reply or else the ban-hammer will happen
🔨
Let's not jump to conclusions just yet, please ;)
Thank you
This is looking terrible for you the more you ignore his allegations. I can't see how this couldn't have been settled with a simple messages back and forth. I personally have nothing against you sparkle and want this to clear up as neatly as possible but the longer this goes on the more it's going to hurt you and the cummionity in the end.
Your word is your worth here. We've got little else to go on and if you don't live up to your word then what are you worth? So if you don't want to make your reasons public for what ever reasons just talk to muggy and work this out.
Exactly. Thank you. And as you said my word is my work and if my work isn't worth anything I'll leave. I'm always available through my email if anyone wants me.
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 12, 2014, 03:20:58 PM
Quote from: Walkhard on June 12, 2014, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 12, 2014, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: Piotr on June 12, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 12, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
Sparkle ya need to reply or else the ban-hammer will happen
🔨
Let's not jump to conclusions just yet, please ;)
Thank you
This is looking terrible for you the more you ignore his allegations. I can't see how this couldn't have been settled with a simple messages back and forth. I personally have nothing against you sparkle and want this to clear up as neatly as possible but the longer this goes on the more it's going to hurt you and the cummionity in the end.
Your word is your worth here. We've got little else to go on and if you don't live up to your word then what are you worth? So if you don't want to make your reasons public for what ever reasons just talk to muggy and work this out.
Exactly. Thank you. And as you said my word is my work and if my work isn't worth anything I'll leave. I'm always available through my email if anyone wants me.
I'm very sorry to hear that. I don't want you or anyone to leave. I just ask for everyone's sake you do so in a responsible manner. And if that's done then you'll always be welcome back by me.
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 11, 2014, 09:40:26 PM
I'm not stealing from you. I swear. If I was stealing from you I would never have responded to you in the first place. I have not meant to harm anyone and {all that you've been doing this entire time is pestering me.Two days after the trade was verified you asked if I had received.} I'm not saying I'm not in the wrong I am merely saying that I am not a thief. I never meant to stir up anything. Now please. You should have your stuff by the end of the week or Monday. Just leave me alone
To Sparkle Ninja
Re: (No subject)
May 18, 2014, 03:47:49 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 17, 2014, 03:07:52 PM
I donr really care which art. My address is ********** Plymouth WI. Quinn Zwick
Me: Zip code
To Sparkle Ninja
Re: (No subject)
May 20, 2014, 09:59:19 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 17, 2014, 03:07:52 PM
I donr really care which art. My address is ****** Plymouth WI. Quinn Zwick
Me: Still waiting on zip code from ya
To Sparkle Ninja
Re: (No subject)
May 21, 2014, 03:24:47 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 20, 2014, 10:23:08 PM
53073
Me : In ze mail
To Sparkle Ninja
(No subject)
May 27, 2014, 05:17:31 PM
Me: Sent your end yet?
To Sparkle Ninja
Re: (No subject)
June 02, 2014, 09:49:24 PM
Me: When did you send? Your end is not here yet and it's been quite some time since we agreed upon trade.
To sparkle
(No subject)
June 04, 2014, 11:23:39 PM
Me: Hello?
Can you please be honest on details of when you sent the items? If you lagged till a date that's fine, just be honest. I usually get all trades within a week...
To sparkle: (No subject)
June 06, 2014, 02:25:22 AM
Me: At least have the respect to reply to my messages, this is the 3rd or 4th message I've sent and I haven't heard from you or received anything regarding our trade, yet you constantly post on the forums.
Please take care of this before I open a trial. I'm really tired of children ruining the trade forum.
To sparkle:
Re: (No subject)
June 06, 2014, 03:19:37 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 06, 2014, 07:08:59 AM
Oh god I just got these so I apologise for not responding to them. Also I sent two of the sane package to you recently Hoping one would make it. I have been having trouble with the postal service where I am but I don't have time to go anywhere else.
Me: I don't see why you would send 2. If you lagged it's fine, just don't lie. I've been told stories like this before and usually it's a lie. Please just add tracking to all your future transactions.
To Sparkle Ninja
Re: (No subject)
June 10, 2014, 06:55:57 PM
Me: ?
To: Sparkle Ninja
(No subject)
Yesterday at 12:10:31 AM
Me: Hey
You know I can see when you use this app?
Why are you ignoring me?
Clearly you're ripping me off, if that wasn't the case you wouldn't be ignoring me.
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Then I posted trial.
Adding these in as evidence against sparkles claims that I have bombarded sparkle with messages.
Check the dates. Pretty well spaced out, also didnt ask about receiving "2 days after confirming trade" as sparkle described in this thread
I'm going to add the charge of lying to sparkles trial now as clearly I can't simply get a straight answer from this person. Just lies about everything. Your word is absolutely worth nothing to me anymore regardless the outcome of this case. I would prefer if liars like you keep away from our community.
Quote from: Taysby on June 12, 2014, 05:29:25 PM
Apparently he/she/it is leaving...
her* stop with that. In no way is it appropriate.
http://www.plymouth.k12.wi.us/NewsPages/131021RVmusical.html
2013 - indicating minor or at the very least a senior in high school
If you've got a unique name and location, it's easy to find you. The Internet is an efficient tool.
... Well, that's pretty conclusive evidence.
Sparkle, I think you should have an opportunity to defend/explain yourself before a decision is made on what to do.
As a personal aside, I suggest you actually either confess or explain yourself instead of avoiding it. Regardless of whether or not you are guilty (I will withold any personal opinion as to that for now) you need to give a more concrete explanatation.
No one is saying you need to leave, but you need to either defend that you are not guilty or explain/apologise for your lies and trade miscommunications. Once you do this we can proceed with some kind of judgement.
To everyone else:
It would make it easier to establish guilt/innocence and punishment if we keep the posts on these topics for now:
-examples of guilt
-arguments as to innocence of the accused
-claification of points/arguments/evidence
What I'm saying is, post things that contribute to this. Don't just say "ya i agree guilty" but contribute something to this debate.
Quote from: Piotr on June 12, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 12, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
Sparkle ya need to reply or else the ban-hammer will happen
🔨
Let's not jump to conclusions just yet, please ;)
Piotr = {voice of reason} 😉
I think everyone hear is venting on sparkle, myself included, because she tends to come across as either a liar, over exaggerator, or bragger. Neither of those three things garner many friends; thus the reason so many people are venting on her.
I can post a couple examples as well.....
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on February 20, 2014, 11:28:19 PM
{Liliana of the Veil}? Maybe? I don't know much about vintage
And then later on sparkle brags about her badass vintage decks with all the power nine....
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 12, 2014, 05:43:59 PM
Quote from: Piotr on June 12, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 12, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
Sparkle ya need to reply or else the ban-hammer will happen
🔨
Let's not jump to conclusions just yet, please ;)
Piotr = {voice of reason} 😉
I think everyone hear is venting on sparkle, myself included, because she tends to come across as either a liar, over exaggerator, or bragger. Neither of those three things garner many friends; thus the reason so many people are venting on her.
I can post a couple examples as well.....
*cough*cough Everyone?
Well, she decided to clear out. Can't say that I disagree with her decision.
Well IMO since s/he chose to leave that name and address should be added to the untrustworthy trader list.
Quote from: Rass on June 12, 2014, 06:57:01 PM
Well IMO since s/he chose to leave that name and address should be added to the untrustworthy trader list.
I second that
Quote from: Xaol on June 12, 2014, 06:51:08 PM
Well, she decided to clear out. Can't say that I disagree with her decision.
I can't disagree either, just wish this person would have messged me back. I believe I was pretty reasonable with communication. Not like I'm texting sparkle at 3AM
I had a completely fine trade with sparkle and I was completely satisfied
I never had any problems with her. Sad things happened the way they did.
That sounds like they didn't want to deal with this. Seems like an admission of guilt to me.
Didn't she have to sell some power to put a down payment on a house ?
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 19, 2014, 09:41:02 PM
Foil Aegis with an Athreos. Traded Athreos for a {Platinum emperion} and an {overgrown tomb}
Then Tasby is like uh,huh. This was back on May 19th
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on April 27, 2014, 12:48:59 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on April 26, 2014, 05:57:47 PM
The most expensive card I pulled at my first prerelease was {Launch the Fleet}... hopefully this one and the next one are better.
I ended up trading for three of these and four Athreos at the Prerealease. The aggro deck shall be mine!
Evidence #2
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on February 06, 2014, 09:44:40 PM
Ok. Money cards of awesome. I got two {Batterskull}s, Another {Karn Liberated}, A foil {Vorinclax Voice of Hunger}, and I also got the rest of the Praetors. I got two {Spellskite}, I got 1 {Phyrexian Obliterator} but I traded it for two {Desecration Demon}
Ok. Done with that,
Just put the ban out there. I'm tired of reading these bullhsit lies.
Found a classic
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on March 17, 2014, 11:56:06 AM
Quote from: Erik_the_gray on March 17, 2014, 11:07:19 AM
A lot of guys won't tell girls that they are pretty because they think tons of other guys already do, and they don't want you to see them as yet another one of "those guys". My wife majors in psychology if you would like someone to talk to, I'm sure she would listen.
I did too actually
Apparently, a major in psychology
@ stromack. I appreciate you bringing this stuff up but this is muggs trial. He put up some strong evidence, no need to just all pile on now. If s/he really bothered you that much feel free to open a new one.
Trust me I personally didn't trust this person from go, but some people did ( look at the karma). This will be dealt with.
Quote from: Rass on June 13, 2014, 11:33:00 AM
@ stromack. I appreciate you bringing this stuff up but this is muggs trial. He put up some strong evidence, no need to just all pile on now. If s/he really bothered you that much feel free to open a new one.
Trust me I personally didn't trust this person from go, but some people did ( look at the karma). This will be dealt with.
Everything should be brought up now in this trial no sense having more than one trial
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 13, 2014, 11:42:02 AM
Quote from: Rass on June 13, 2014, 11:33:00 AM
@ stromack. I appreciate you bringing this stuff up but this is muggs trial. He put up some strong evidence, no need to just all pile on now. If s/he really bothered you that much feel free to open a new one.
Trust me I personally didn't trust this person from go, but some people did ( look at the karma). This will be dealt with.
Everything should be brought up now in this trial no sense having more than one trial
This was my point. No point in bringing up a second trial for lying, when it's in plain site for all to see.
Everything that anyone agrees that would fall under the "no lying" rule should be brought up.
Quote from: Stromack on June 13, 2014, 12:28:42 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 13, 2014, 11:42:02 AM
Quote from: Rass on June 13, 2014, 11:33:00 AM
@ stromack. I appreciate you bringing this stuff up but this is muggs trial. He put up some strong evidence, no need to just all pile on now. If s/he really bothered you that much feel free to open a new one.
Trust me I personally didn't trust this person from go, but some people did ( look at the karma). This will be dealt with.
Everything should be brought up now in this trial no sense having more than one trial
This was my point. No point in bringing up a second trial for lying, when it's in plain site for all to see.
Everything that anyone agrees that would fall under the "no lying" rule should be brought up.
Exactly
Aren't you all going to feel like ducks when she posts pics of everything next week.
Quote from: Dstyle1 on June 13, 2014, 10:11:14 PM
Aren't you all going to feel like ducks when she posts pics of everything next week.
+1
I will send her one of my decks if she produces pics of all her claims. Every single one.
Quote from: Spencer Addington on June 13, 2014, 11:53:04 PM
I will send her one of my decks if she produces pics of all her claims. Every single one.
I'll give my $1200 Modern Mill to one of you guys if this happens.
I'm pretty sure snorlax is sparkle ninja... If I'm wrong, I apologize, but I don't think I am.
I'll get someone a reeeeally nice proxy of {Black Lotus}. Like, it'll be near impossible to tell sleeved without close examination.
Received cards today
Postmarked June 11th...
Dropping trial
Cards are in MP condition :/
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 14, 2014, 09:31:04 PM
Received cards today
Postmarked June 11th...
Dropping trial
Cards are in MP condition :/
Postmarked for the day that you started the trial. Bahahaha!
Lolllll
Lmao! See, sometimes the mail is the troll, not the person
Quote from: MtgCollector666 on June 14, 2014, 11:56:04 PM
Lmao! See, sometimes the mail is the troll, not the person
No they literally sent it the day before trial at the earliest. Sending after they said they sent it twice. He could've told me that he had not sent it yet and no trial would've happened.
Also a note was attached to the cards: this isn't Cynthia's fault ;)
Should still receive a ban for lying
Quote from: Stromack on June 15, 2014, 11:52:23 AM
Should still receive a ban for lying
You are free to distribute your personal Ban for lying.
Yes. You don't want to see the lies, Ban the liar. Easy enough.
Quote from: Piotr on June 15, 2014, 12:29:53 PM
Yes. You don't want to see the lies, Ban the liar. Easy enough.
I didn't know I could do that. You're a gentleman and a scholar, sir.
I know this isn't really my business and I don't mean to intrude but is there a point in banning her if she's already left?
The principle.
Oh ok. Thanks
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 15, 2014, 01:20:13 AM
Also a note was attached to the cards: this isn't Cynthia's fault ;)
This would suggest that cards were sent on Cynthia's behalf by another entity, who took the blame? If it was true, what should be logical punishment dealt by Cynthia to this person, who was late sending cards?
I would say to never rely on said person again. But normally all trades for Cynthia go thru Quinn..
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 18, 2014, 12:54:04 PM
I would say to never rely on said person again. But normally all trades for Cynthia go thru Quinn..
The situation might be that Quinn is actually doing a favour rather than enjoying sending cards on Cynthia's behalf, not sure if in that case that would be logical punishment ;)
This was interesting. :D
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 12:51:03 PM
This was interesting. :D
That is quite obvious, but what do you make of it?
Quote from: Piotr on June 22, 2014, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 12:51:03 PM
This was interesting. :D
That is quite obvious, but what do you make of it?
Personally? She did (we think) lie a lot, but give her another shot. It's not like it impacts our lives that she made those claims. The trading, she sent late, but that's no problem. I say everyone should keep cool. Why?
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 02:21:57 PM
Quote from: Piotr on June 22, 2014, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 12:51:03 PM
This was interesting. :D
That is quite obvious, but what do you make of it?
Personally? She did (we think) lie a lot, but give her another shot. It's not like it impacts our lives that she made those claims. The trading, she sent late, but that's no problem. I say everyone should keep cool. Why?
S/he left on their own personal desire.
Quote from: Rass on June 22, 2014, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 02:21:57 PM
Quote from: Piotr on June 22, 2014, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 12:51:03 PM
This was interesting. :D
That is quite obvious, but what do you make of it?
Personally? She did (we think) lie a lot, but give her another shot. It's not like it impacts our lives that she made those claims. The trading, she sent late, but that's no problem. I say everyone should keep cool. Why?
S/he left on their own personal desire.
I'm aware, but it seemed like people weren't giving her a second shot.
No, we are, she is still invited.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 02:30:33 PM
I'm aware, but it seemed like people weren't giving her a second shot.
Can you elaborate on this?? No one said get the f out.
Quote from: Rass on June 22, 2014, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 02:30:33 PM
I'm aware, but it seemed like people weren't giving her a second shot.
Can you elaborate on this?? No one said get the f out.
From what I saw people were being generally aggressive, they didn't say "just leave" but I can understand why Sparkle might think that's what they meant.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: Rass on June 22, 2014, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 02:30:33 PM
I'm aware, but it seemed like people weren't giving her a second shot.
Can you elaborate on this?? No one said get the f out.
From what I saw people were being generally aggressive, they didn't say "just leave" but I can understand why Sparkle might think that's what they meant.
This I can agree with, there has been a ship ton of mob mentality on here lately. I personally say that yes, sparkle did have quite a few posts where I thought she full of crap. But frankly, who the fark cares? The (alleged) simple white lies didn't hurt a single person on here. Not one. Secondly, we don't know that they were stories, not one ounce of evidence, not one. As far as the delayed shipping on the cards. Is there zero possibility that she gave them to her husband to ship, he says sure babe, no problem. Forgets to ship them the next day, but says yeah baby I shipped em (come on guys, anyone that's been in an adult relationship has done this). I'm not saying any of this IS what happened, I'm just giving possibilities from the other side as I'm tired of the mob ganging up on people.
Sorry there was no way an adult shipped it.
Had 4 stamps and the worst handwriting I have ever seen.
If the person was honest with me in communication in the first place, there would have been no trial.
Kind of tired of terrible traders here, so would rather they get called out. We want this community to stay tight with people are quick, honest and reliable traders.
If this person is back under a new alias, then they should probably just stay in the discussion and deck forums, rather than trade again.
I am having an issue with sparkle also.
I have not received their end of a three way trade.
Sparkle and the other person have received
But I have not received from sparkle
Quote from: Ibtrickey on June 22, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
I am having an issue with sparkle also.
I have not received their end of a three way trade.
Sparkle and the other person have received
But I have not received from sparkle
Please post a new trial with specifics. This trial is dismissed due to sparkles end arriving, but clearly sparkle is not recommended for trading and sparkle seems to have left the building instead of being a responsible person and going through the motions of a trial.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 02:30:33 PM
Quote from: Rass on June 22, 2014, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 02:21:57 PM
Quote from: Piotr on June 22, 2014, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on June 22, 2014, 12:51:03 PM
This was interesting. :D
That is quite obvious, but what do you make of it?
Personally? She did (we think) lie a lot, but give her another shot. It's not like it impacts our lives that she made those claims. The trading, she sent late, but that's no problem. I say everyone should keep cool. Why?
S/he left on their own personal desire.
I'm aware, but it seemed like people weren't giving her a second shot.
This guy 👍
Glad I'm not the only one who saw it