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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Avodroc13 on June 08, 2014, 11:53:36 AM

Title: Tajic
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 08, 2014, 11:53:36 AM
{Tajic, Blade of the Legion}'s battalion ability, is that activated or triggered?

Can it be countered/prevented with {Stifie}?
Title: Re: Tajic
Post by: Sardok on June 08, 2014, 12:43:37 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 08, 2014, 12:22:03 PM
Triggered

Activated usually has a [cost] : [effect]
Triggered is the "whenever, when or if" clauses

Note inside the explanation of battalion it says "whenever......"

And yes, it can be stifled by stifle ing the battalion trigger

Actually, "if" is a replacement effect and does not use the stack. "At" is a triggered ability.

Just to clarify.
Title: Re: Tajic
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 08, 2014, 12:58:59 PM
When would Stifie be used properly? When they declare attackers?


What if I gave it double strike? Would it have to be stifie'd twice?
Title: Re: Tajic
Post by: griffin131 on June 08, 2014, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 08, 2014, 12:58:59 PM
When would Stifie be used properly? When they declare attackers?


What if I gave it double strike? Would it have to be stifie'd twice?
As a triggered ability, it uses the stack. So whenever you get priority before the ability resolves you can stifle it.
Title: Re: Tajic
Post by: particle on June 08, 2014, 01:37:48 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 08, 2014, 01:01:11 PM
Thanks for the fix sardok


And stifle him anytime during the declare attackers step

Double strike does not make him attack twice, merely means he deals damage during the first strike step AND the normal damage step

One stifle keeps him small, still indestructible, but small

you cannot stifle anytime during the declare attackers step. you can only stifle in response to the ability being on the stack which will be during the declare attackers step. otherwise there would be no ability to target.
Title: Re: Tajic
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 08, 2014, 02:02:58 PM
If I have a Tajic on the field and an opponent uses {Clone}, and then on my turn I use {Act of Treason}, does the Legend Rule apply?
Title: Re: Tajic
Post by: Remillo on June 08, 2014, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 08, 2014, 02:02:58 PM
If I have a Tajic on the field and an opponent uses {Clone}, and then on my turn I use {Act of Treason}, does the Legend Rule apply?

Sure.  You control two Legendary Permanents with the same name, so you send one of them to its owner's graveyard, just as if you'd stolen an actual Tajic (Assuming the Clone is copying Tajic)
Title: Re: Tajic
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 08, 2014, 02:12:20 PM
So only one goes bye bye? I thought they both go to their owner's graveyard.
Title: Re: Tajic
Post by: Avnger345 on June 08, 2014, 02:15:27 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 08, 2014, 02:12:20 PM
So only one goes bye bye? I thought they both go to their owner's graveyard.

Legendary rule changed when m14 came out.
Title: Re: Tajic
Post by: Avnger345 on June 08, 2014, 02:17:57 PM
704.5k If a player controls two or more legendary permanents with the same name, that player chooses one of them, and the rest are put into their owners' graveyards. This is called the "legend rule".