{Mana Flare} + {Zhur-Taa Ancient}
Would that equal quadruple mana?
Edit: if one were to have Zhur-Taa and 3 Mana Flares on the field with 3 mana, how would that add up?
Only Triple. Each one adds an additional mana, resulting in two extra.
Most 'doubling' abilities are like that, except for {Mana Reflection}, which actually just doubles it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, I just want to make sure I get these interactions right. {mana flare} and {mana reflection} on the table. I tap a mountain and get {R}{R}{R} because mana flare gives 1 extra mana and the reflection doubles the 1 what the mountain gave me. Now if I were to tap an {urza's mine} with the set on the table, I would get {5} because the flare is giving me 1 and the reflection is doubling the 2 that the mine taps for.
You got it.
When you tap a Permanent for mana, Mana Reflection says 'Hold on, have twice as much instead', because it's a replacement effect changing how much is actually produced
Mana Flare abilities instead say 'Oh, you just produced mana. Have an extra one', because they produce the extra mana after you've already made mana from the land.
For each 1 mana you would get two triggers giving you 2 more mana, so 3 mana total of 1 color
As you control both enchantments, you decide the order in which they apply. So you can apply the {mana flare} effect first, than apply {mana reflection}, thereby giving you {R}{R}{R}{R}. Not {R}{R}{R}.
Says so in the card rulings...
Unless I'm interpreting it wrong...
Anyone?
What particular ruling are you referring to? I'm not seeing it.
Mana flare is a triggered ability that adds 1 mana to your mana pool, it doesn't change how much mana the land produces, so shouldn't be affected at all by mana reflection.
5/1/2008: If you have Mana Reflection on the battlefield and tap a permanent for mana, but another replacement effect would change the type and/or amount of mana it would produce (such as Contamination, which says "If a land is tapped for mana, it produces B instead of any other type and amount"), you decide what order to apply those effects in. In this example, applying Mana Reflection first and Contamination second would result in B; applying Contamination first and Mana Reflection second would result in BB.
You would be able to get 6 mana. Since Caged Sun and Heartbeat of Spring don't say that the LAND produces an extra mana, the effect of Mana Reflection will not double any bonuses given by those two permanents.
However, Mana Flare states that the land is the source of the extra mana, so you can apply Flare first, then Reflection for 4 mana, then Heartbeat and Sun will add 2 more for a total of 6.
That isn't what it means at all. You're probably reading outdated text for Mana Flare.
Heartbeat, Caged Sun and Mana Flare all are triggered mana abilities. They have no interaction with Mana Reflection.