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Title: New Naya
Post by: NovusOrbis on May 26, 2014, 11:52:39 PM
New Naya

60 cards, 0 sideboard


5 {Forest}
4 {Plains}
4 {Mountain}
3 {Temple of Plenty}
3 {Temple of Abandon}
2 {Temple of Triumph}
4 {Mana Confluence}

25 Lands


2 {Boon Satyr}
4 {Sylvan Caryatid}
2 {Fleecemane Lion}
2 {Brimaz, King of Oreskos}
4 {Stormbreath Dragon}
3 {Fanatic of Xenagos}
4 {Courser of Kruphix}
3 {Polukranos, World Eater}

24 creatures

1 {Deicide}
2 {Banishing Light}
2 {Anger of the Gods}
2 {Elspeth, Sun's Campion}
2 {Ajani, Mentor of Heroes}
2 {Xenagos, the Reveler}

11 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:
If Elvish Mystic isn't reprinted, I will cry
Title: Re: New Naya
Post by: NovusOrbis on May 26, 2014, 11:53:59 PM
Soneone playtest this for me please. Works well for me, I just want others' opinions.
Title: Re: New Naya
Post by: Stopwaitdie on May 27, 2014, 01:56:40 AM
I like {scavenging ooze} better than fleecemane personally.
Title: Re: New Naya
Post by: BaBa BLaCkSHeeT on May 27, 2014, 03:45:58 AM
Looking at his choice in non-shocklands, the notes, and a mystery sideboard. I believe it's safe to think "New Naya" is his preparing for to station eliminating the scooze ^^;
Title: Re: New Naya
Post by: BaBa BLaCkSHeeT on May 27, 2014, 04:26:06 AM
I uploaded the deck and have been test drawing/"playing" up to 20 dmg  for roughly 10 minutes and here's my 2 cents.

1) the biggest issue appears to be the mana base maybe buddy lands or something reprint will save the day at any rate it's a greedy base indeed. 1/8 games or so I curved out ideally and ended turn four. But that's 1/8 that I played out there was a couple I mulled down to a plain,all your gods some dumb things I didn't even bother counting but obviously such draws are capable of occurring.

I'd suggest upping the land to a solid 24 later suggestions/your opinion will perhaps further smooth the success rate of draws.
I believe this deck is decent however it is smashing two decks together let me further explain.

Option a) go selesenyea with a splash or red for the god of triumph?

Option b) semi monsters with light splash of white for 1 god of triumph god with revelers and the planes walker

Option c) go try monsters in new deck up planeswalker poly and the good big guys. ( we will ignore this option)

2) the god hands of unfortunately just gods I believe if your going naya  route it is safe to:
A) -2 {xenagos, god of revel}

B)-1{xenagos, god of revel}
-1 {ironas, god of victory}
+1 {xenagos the planes walker name slipped}


3) attempt to move away from the monsters of current standard mid set Two solid turn three caryatid and turn 4 ramping into storm breath is probably your nuts draws followed by a god. This however on current land base awfully hard to pull off. And boon satyr as well if you want to throw him as the flash you need to effectively ramp to five else he's just the two of 4/2 eot flash in which is perfectly fine but one is a monsters mind set and one is option a the selesnyea mind set.

A) -2 {storm breath dragon}
    +2 {boon satyr}
    +1 {xenagos, follower}

B} -4 {soldier of pantheons} (maybe sideboard for now
     -1 { fleecemane lion}
     + {2 courser of kruphix}



I'm sure not only names are spelt goofy but the counts aren't 100% I also encourage deck building and would prefer my +\- are off so your own flavor is included.

By no means am I knocking or crucifying your deck. I can say from test drawing and the layout it had the potential to blow anyone up quickly as any monster curve out would, however, it is rather inconsistent. You have six different win cons play outs if not more I would lower them down and build a deck that more readily reaches that point.



Super long winded approach this naya aggro planning for new set is an interesting concept I'm going to take this and make option a myself as it's more appealing to my style :)
Title: Re: New Naya
Post by: NovusOrbis on May 27, 2014, 09:38:09 PM
Golly gee, that's some good advice. Ive discussed with some friends and one showed me this awesome superfriends deck and I was blown away on how effective it was! So Ill edit soon, but ive removed the mystics and soldiers, gone to two of Xenagos walker and fleece, got rid of iroas and Xenagod to sideboard and added 2 elspeth 2 brimaz and 2 Ajani, and some anger of the gods/banishingL for removal.
Title: Re: New Naya
Post by: BaBa BLaCkSHeeT on May 28, 2014, 01:09:27 AM
Nice changes indeed! I think the confluences may be required with some heavy splashing splits. Attempt to find out one source to cut for a basic, find one color you often feel is game changing and drop to three confluences I have a four color deck and unfortunately it's not even possible but here I think you may be able to eventually cut to 3 and without life gain this could help a ton. It's a hard call nevertheless.

If suggest -2 {anger of the gods} to a sideboard option against hexproof or overly aggressive decks. I feel a {mizzium mortars} like affect would be more ideal.

Options include:
{reprisal} , however supposing pro white kills both your removals anti-regeneration is nice however.

{time to feed} maybe you want to supplement your life loss here it's a stretch and also sorcery speed

{setessian tactics}, this I feel is an excellent underused card at the moment it's instant speed it had utility with the ability to strive and most of your creatures are big enough that with a +1/+1 you can either trade worst case with your problem or just survive thru it and get a removal value. The extra utility is a cheap combat trick to save something you want to keep alive or a response to removal you can tap trade say brimaz with whoever they were afraid to swing in with that they though cleared the way for them.

{fallen hammer} may of spelt this one wrong it's a cheap pit fight with the additional key benifit you are playing some big threats and it directly deals damage to a creature without even punishing your own field!

After this adjustment I feel you are on your way to tweaking together a decent brew best of luck.
Title: Re: New Naya
Post by: NovusOrbis on May 28, 2014, 01:14:08 AM
Quote from: BaBa BLaCkSHeeT on May 28, 2014, 01:09:27 AM
Nice changes indeed! I think the confluences may be required with some heavy splashing splits. Attempt to find out one source to cut for a basic, find one color you often feel is game changing and drop to three confluences I have a four color deck and unfortunately it's not even possible but here I think you may be able to eventually cut to 3 and without life gain this could help a ton. It's a hard call nevertheless.

If suggest -2 {anger of the gods} to a sideboard option against hexproof or overly aggressive decks. I feel a {mizzium mortars} like affect would be more ideal.

Options include:
{reprisal} , however supposing pro white kills both your removals anti-regeneration is nice however.

{time to feed} maybe you want to supplement your life loss here it's a stretch and also sorcery speed

{setessian tactics}, this I feel is an excellent underused card at the moment it's instant speed it had utility with the ability to strive and most of your creatures are big enough that with a +1/+1 you can either trade worst case with your problem or just survive thru it and get a removal value. The extra utility is a cheap combat trick to save something you want to keep alive or a response to removal you can tap trade say brimaz with whoever they were afraid to swing in with that they though cleared the way for them.

{fallen hammer} may of spelt this one wrong it's a cheap pit fight with the additional key benifit you are playing some big threats and it directly deals damage to a creature without even punishing your own field!

After this adjustment I feel you are on your way to tweaking together a decent brew best of luck.
Courser usually helps me to gain my life back, but I'll add some lifegain stuff to the side board! And losing 1~2 life from confluence doesn't hurt that bad when you T3 a Polukranos, T4 a Stormbreath, and then T5 an Elspeth ;)
Title: Re: New Naya
Post by: BaBa BLaCkSHeeT on May 28, 2014, 01:18:09 AM
I don't know how effective burn will be post rotation to he format I do feel red devotion will get stronger as the devotion bomb is still in rotation and the format I believe will speed up overall it's very mid range at the moment.

Finding room for life gain may be worth it but may not be required you never know 4/54 chance not to draw it if not in your opener. I run four in my current brew and it is painful to open with 2-3 it's rare but annoying hah. I'd focus playtesting as much as you can see if the life loss ever plays a roll in losing the game and what cards give you the most trouble and then decide if their is room in the board for small life gains  as you stayed courser helps!
Title: Re: New Naya
Post by: NovusOrbis on May 30, 2014, 11:16:02 PM
Bump. And question. Since Stormbreath has protection from white, could I dig with him using Ajanis second ability, and/or give him 3 counters?
Title: Re: New Naya
Post by: SoshiGanrou on May 31, 2014, 01:56:23 AM
Quote from: NovusOrbis on May 30, 2014, 11:16:02 PM
Bump. And question. Since Stormbreath has protection from white, could I dig with him using Ajanis second ability, and/or give him 3 counters?

Search with the 2nd ability yes. Put counters on him no. Since storm breath isn't on the field Ajani and te dragon are friends. Once on the field not so much