Can we stop with the negs on this poor guy? he's been posting some decent stuff and there are about three people who seem to have a vendetta against him and have been giving him negative karma.
Instead of just giving new people -1, let's turn things to be a bit more constructive. Tell the user what they are doing wrong, and that way they can improve. It's a healthier situation for everyone, you'll be able to enjoy better quality posts and you're helping include someone into our great community.
I get that when you see someone with few posts and negative karma it seems like it's ok to just give negative karma, but let's not do the bandwagon thing. Yes your karma is yours to give out, but I encourage each and every one of you to just consider PMing the person what they are doing wrong, instead of the constant negging!
Tree smoker has messaged me asking him what he's doing wrong, and he actually seems to be a pretty cool guy. So I challenge you to be a little more inclusive and give people a chance. Thanks for reading!
Well the comment has since been deleted, but he made a racist remark on the Obamacare thread. First impressions are a bitch.
Although I agree racist comments are bad, it does depend on who you're with. For me, I make bad jokes like that when I'm with close friends who will laugh, but not around people I don't know or adults.
People who make racist jokes are doing just that, making a joke. Jokes don't advocate racism. I think the only lesson here is
"There's a place and time for everything."
I think treesmoker should have simply been more respectful and thought about it better, but I'm sure he's not a racist
Personally I think once a new person is on the forums, for the first 10-50 comments, no one can touch their karma. Then, after that until 100, they should get "Warnings". It won't affect their karma but then they know what's unacceptable. Then after that they should have learned better and their karma can become whatever it wants depending on their attitude.
I think newcomers have it too hard here
(I'll be bringing this up with Piotr as an idea)
But in the end it's karma ... Who cares .. I've talked to tree and he's a cool guy
Mattao to us it means nothing, but to new comers it signifies how welcome they feel on the forums. Then they just leave
Quote from: DylanW18 on May 23, 2014, 05:35:38 PM
Mattao to us it means nothing, but to new comers it signifies how welcome they feel on the forums. Then they just leave
I haven't actually checked out his karma log to be honest, and I agree that karma stalking is wrong. I was just providing commentary on why some might have given him negs, and why some might not be as open to what he has to say.
I also must have missed the part where he said it was a joke. Still in bad taste even if it were a joke, IMO.
Quote from: Moneekahh on May 23, 2014, 05:37:29 PM
I haven't actually checked out his karma log to be honest, and I agree that karma stalking is wrong. I was just providing commentary on why some might have given him negs, and why some might not be as open to what he has to say.
I also must have missed the part where he said it was a joke. Still in bad taste even if it were a joke, IMO.
Agreed, it was bad taste
Oops lol
Anyways I guess. Like I started out with negative karma. In the end it's a number. Although I want newcomers to be welcome they should know that karma means nothing
Quote from: Mattao19 on May 23, 2014, 05:38:21 PM
Oops lol
Anyways I guess. Like I started out with negative karma. In the end it's a number. Although I want newcomers to be welcome they should know that karma means nothing
I did as well, but it's not that easy for newcomers to understand that. I just don't want our forums that we have fought for to not be as open to newcomers, I think we need to remember not everyone thinks the way we do
I'm sorry for offending people
It was to be a joke
I forgot to put that it was.
So this is a public apology that I'm sorry and I'm not racists at all. I will be thinking more about what i say. Again, sorry. Hopefully we can all be friends?
Quote from: TreeSmoker on May 23, 2014, 05:50:25 PM
I'm sorry for offending people
It was to be a joke
I forgot to put that it was.
So this is a public apology that I'm sorry and I'm not racists at all. I will be thinking more about what i say. Again, sorry. Hopefully we can all be friends?
I must have gave you +1 for something else today but I am not sure why. Tried giving you +1 for this post but have to wait 24hrs between karma add for a single user
I'll be one of the first people to advocate that karma is stupid and meaningless.
That being said, my first few months here I was ranging from -8 to -3 karma and it discouraged me from using the forum side of this app because it seemed like nobody liked what I had to say.
Quote from: gtfotis on May 23, 2014, 06:31:46 PM
I'll be one of the first people to advocate that karma is stupid and meaningless.
That being said, my first few months here I was ranging from -8 to -3 karma and it discouraged me from using the forum side of this app because it seemed like nobody liked what I had to say.
True.
When I first joined its when I first started magic so all my questions were DUMB lol and all I wanted was to learn.
I like the idea of no karma until 100 posts
I've heard it so many times here, and I think it is just totally dumb to say 'karma means nothing'. You are 100% wrong, karma means total of your negative and positive reactions from other forum memners. Not nothing. :P
Quote from: Piotr on May 24, 2014, 05:38:10 AM
I've heard it so many times here, and I think it is just totally dumb to say 'karma means nothing'. You are 100% wrong, karma means total of your negative and positive reactions from other forum memners. Not nothing. :P
It's honestly a number built up off of witty remarks.
Out of my almost 200 karma of say my breakdown is like this
120- were good puns
15- were from helping out in the rules
30- were deck building help
15- Wall games
10- from Trades
20- from useless you have me a +1, here +1 back lol
(Yes my math adds to 210, but I have gotten negative karma too :P)
Quote from: Piotr on May 24, 2014, 05:38:10 AM
I've heard it so many times here, and I think it is just totally dumb to say 'karma means nothing'. You are 100% wrong, karma means total of your negative and positive reactions from other forum memners. Not nothing. :P
That's what it's designed to mean, but there are so many people that are way too trigger happy.
Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on May 24, 2014, 02:16:36 PM
Quote from: Piotr on May 24, 2014, 05:38:10 AM
I've heard it so many times here, and I think it is just totally dumb to say 'karma means nothing'. You are 100% wrong, karma means total of your negative and positive reactions from other forum memners. Not nothing. :P
That's what it's designed to mean, but there are so many people that are way too trigger happy.
Yes I agree there are way too many trigger happy people I've been here over a year and my karmas been a roller coaster
Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on May 24, 2014, 02:16:36 PM
Quote from: Piotr on May 24, 2014, 05:38:10 AM
I've heard it so many times here, and I think it is just totally dumb to say 'karma means nothing'. You are 100% wrong, karma means total of your negative and positive reactions from other forum memners. Not nothing. :P
That's what it's designed to mean, but there are so many people that are way too trigger happy.
People are much more vindictive through anonymity
Most people have a little neg karma when they first start off, but over time, it goes up or it goes down. Usually up with most people.
Some people do stupid stalking, I see it all the time and what usually happens is that person is neg'd even more. Usually remarks about how they don't care gain more neg karma.
Now it's not from one person however, so those who do get a lot of neg karma need to consider that maybe there is a better way to approach a community:
-How they go about trading and communicating
-how they add to discussion
-how much they actually THINK into what they put into the post.
Usually many people miss the last 2 points and I imagine a Ralph Wiggum from Simpsons as those people.
Think before you post kids.
For those not familiar with Ralph...
http://youtu.be/g9MTejMEUJU
I've never thought much of karma. I've been here for a little while and don't have much. Doesn't bother me. I would say just post when you have something to add. I am sure some came from the amount he was posting. In some peoples eyes it may have come off as annoying in that little brother way. Maybe I'm wrong but yeah. I am just adding to this with what I have personally seen. If you contribute to the topic at hand people will tend to like it.
I wouldn't be able to break down my karma, I don't know why anyone would like anything I've had to say. 😉
Quote from: gtfotis on May 25, 2014, 01:53:52 AM
I wouldn't be able to break down my karma, I don't know why anyone would like anything I've had to say. 😉
Lol nice +1
Everyone that says karma is stupid or meaningless has more than 100 karma... I find this funny.
Quote from: Spencer Addington on May 25, 2014, 02:10:27 PM
Everyone that says karma is stupid or meaningless has more than 100 karma... I find this funny.
Lol
Quote from: Taysby on May 25, 2014, 02:59:50 PM
Because they realize that how they got there was by not caring about it. I only check my karma to see what people don't like and avoid it. ;)
Like speaking conservative ideals? I kinda felt bad that you got flamed so bad in the .politics. forum :(
I respect others opinions regardless if I agree or not.
100% agree Taysby!
Quote from: Spencer Addington on May 25, 2014, 02:10:27 PM
Everyone that says karma is stupid or meaningless has more than 100 karma... I find this funny.
I said karma didn't really matter :P
Quote from: Taysby on May 25, 2014, 04:34:30 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on May 25, 2014, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: Taysby on May 25, 2014, 02:59:50 PM
Because they realize that how they got there was by not caring about it. I only check my karma to see what people don't like and avoid it. ;)
Like speaking conservative ideals? I kinda felt bad that you got flamed so bad in the .politics. forum :(
I respect others opinions regardless if I agree or not.
Speaking libertarian ideals is the one thing I won't compromise on. Bring on the negs you ignorant democrats! B)
;)
(I'm joking here if you couldn't tell)
Democrat? Guilty as charged
Definition of ignorant is to be uninformed. I find myself so far from uninformed it's not funny. I typically find republicans very uninformed....they tend to repeat things they hear on Fox News.....but I digress ;)
Quote from: Taysby on May 25, 2014, 05:44:13 PM
Is fox not a reputable news source most of the time? ;)
Oh sweet jeezus Taysby
Lets just say most of the time they are biased and spin a story, and a good % they end up putting out misinformation or an argument for arguments sake
I'm not exempting MSNBC as fair either for conservatives