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Leveler Deck 60 cards, 0 sideboard 4 {Glacial Fortress} 10 {Plains} 10 {Island} 24 lands 4 {Student of Warfare} 4 {Kabira Vindicator} 4 {Mistmeadow Witch} 4 {Hada Spy Patrol} 2 {Transcendent Master} 4 {Venerated Teacher} 2 {Wall of Denial} 2 {Lighthouse Chronologist} 26 creatures 4 {Training Grounds} 2 {Tezzeret's Gambit} 4 {Time of Heroes} 10 other spells Sideboard Notes: Had a crappy levelers deck before. Gonna try and rebuild it! As usual, points and thoughts?

I like Levelers, but I was expecting {Leveler}s.  XD

I think {Venser, the Sojourner} might be counter-productive in this deck.  You don't want to have to reboot your leveling.  He'd only be there for the {Venerated Teacher}.  If that's the plan, how about {Mistmeadow Witch}?  She works with the {Training Grounds}, is instant speed, and can be used to blink enemy dudes.  This can: remove auras/equipment/counter, make them remove them from combat, and make them "summoning sick".

Quote from: BlackJester on April 04, 2012, 02:48:45 PM
I like Levelers, but I was expecting {Leveler}s.  XD

I think {Venser, the Sojourner} might be counter-productive in this deck.  You don't want to have to reboot your leveling.  He'd only be there for the {Venerated Teacher}.  If that's the plan, how about {Mistmeadow Witch}?  She works with the {Training Grounds}, is instant speed, and can be used to blink enemy dudes.  This can: remove auras/equipment/counter, make them remove them from combat, and make them "summoning sick".

a cheaper better andsimpler thing than venser... I like! Also lets me use venser in other decks! Awesome thanks!
Any other tips? :D

I opened this thread thinking it was about the Mirrodin Leveler :(. On topic I'd invest in some Student of Warfare, they're almost like White Knights but awesomer.

Edit: Max out on em.

Quote from: BlackJester on April 04, 2012, 02:48:45 PM
I like Levelers, but I was expecting {Leveler}s.  XD

Me 2

I still think its odd that proliferate doesn't work with leveler cards. :(

Quote from: Wally on April 04, 2012, 06:47:35 PM
I still think its odd that proliferate doesn't work with leveler cards. :(

It doesnt? Why not?

Quote from: Wally on April 04, 2012, 06:47:35 PM
I still think its odd that proliferate doesn't work with leveler cards. :(

It does.

Quote from: BlackJester on April 04, 2012, 07:09:21 PM

Quote from: Wally on April 04, 2012, 06:47:35 PM
I still think its odd that proliferate doesn't work with leveler cards. :(

It does.

Grr to the guys that told me otherwise.
Now back to this awesome leveler deck, surely there's some cool proliferate stuff that could go in here :D

Stuff like doubling season and Tezzeret's Gambit

Was thinking more along the lines of {inexorable tide} and other cool proliferate cards. Might as well mention the {contagion engine} too..

Quote from: Wally on April 06, 2012, 05:29:10 PM
Was thinking more along the lines of {inexorable tide} and other cool proliferate cards. Might as well mention the {contagion engine} too..

Imma add one engine cuz thatd make a nice finisher ^^

Quote from: Fenster on April 06, 2012, 08:10:36 PM

Quote from: Wally on April 06, 2012, 05:29:10 PM
Was thinking more along the lines of {inexorable tide} and other cool proliferate cards. Might as well mention the {contagion engine} too..

Imma add one engine cuz thatd make a nice finisher ^^

Was thinking the tide would be good, coz you could drop out another creature or play a spell that you really need to, rather than having to save mana for the levelers. And they get tokens anyway.
Plus the engine has double proliferate for 4 mana, imagine how many counters you could be adding :)

Need to find a replacement for fluster storn! What are your favorite counter"spells"? :)

Mana leak is a staple counter card, but blackjester (or others) may have some more unique ones that fit well into this deck.
There's a counter and proliferate too. {fuel for the cause}

Quote from: Wally on April 11, 2012, 07:01:29 AM
Mana leak is a staple counter card, but blackjester (or others) may have some more unique ones that fit well into this deck.
There's a counter and proliferate too. {fuel for the cause}

Its both good and bad... I think ill throw 1 in and then 3 lower manacost spells.

Quote from: Wally on April 11, 2012, 07:01:29 AM
Mana leak is a staple counter card, but blackjester (or others) may have some more unique ones that fit well into this deck.
There's a counter and proliferate too. {fuel for the cause}

Levelers and Control don't mix.  Levelers want you to dump your mana into them every turn.  Control wants you to leave mana up for their turn.  I'd run levelers like a ramp/beatdown deck.

Quote from: BlackJester on April 11, 2012, 11:51:03 AM

Quote from: Wally on April 11, 2012, 07:01:29 AM
Mana leak is a staple counter card, but blackjester (or others) may have some more unique ones that fit well into this deck.
There's a counter and proliferate too. {fuel for the cause}

Levelers and Control don't mix.  Levelers want you to dump your mana into them every turn.  Control wants you to leave mana up for their turn.  I'd run levelers like a ramp/beatdown deck.

Hm... I just hate the idea of loosing a pumped up {trancendant master} to an o-ring or similar ^^
But maybe you're righ! Ill Test with and without. And i do like having room for more creatures in this deck!

Quote from: BlackJester on April 11, 2012, 11:51:03 AM

Quote from: Wally on April 11, 2012, 07:01:29 AM
Mana leak is a staple counter card, but blackjester (or others) may have some more unique ones that fit well into this deck.
There's a counter and proliferate too. {fuel for the cause}

Levelers and Control don't mix.  Levelers want you to dump your mana into them every turn.  Control wants you to leave mana up for their turn.  I'd run levelers like a ramp/beatdown deck.

You were right. Deck feels much better just in the sample draws!

How did you manage to ramp in these colours? I'm interested, I always seem to have to splash green or try and drop a {caged sun} or something in decks to ramp them.
I'd still try and get an {inexorable tide} or two into this deck somewhere. I don't thing it works against you other than it costing 5 to drop. But it would pay for itself with every other spell you play after it.
Dunno.

Quote from: Wally on April 11, 2012, 03:28:56 PM
How did you manage to ramp in these colours? I'm interested, I always seem to have to splash green or try and drop a {caged sun} or something in decks to ramp them.
I'd still try and get an {inexorable tide} or two into this deck somewhere. I don't thing it works against you other than it costing 5 to drop. But it would pay for itself with every other spell you play after it.
Dunno.

{Sphere of the Suns} and other Proliferates would probably be good.

Quote from: Wally on April 11, 2012, 03:28:56 PM
How did you manage to ramp in these colours? I'm interested, I always seem to have to splash green or try and drop a {caged sun} or something in decks to ramp them.
I'd still try and get an {inexorable tide} or two into this deck somewhere. I don't thing it works against you other than it costing 5 to drop. But it would pay for itself with every other spell you play after it.
Dunno.

But if i have 5 mana i think id rather spend it on something else. Would it be another creature or more levels.