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Title: Floating mana
Post by: Avodroc13 on May 17, 2014, 08:13:14 PM
Floating nana is something I recently learned on here, my question is, if I were to cast {Armageddon} could my opponent float mana?
Say I wanted to {Faith's Reward} afterwards, could they float enough mana for {Counterspell}? Or am I understanding the whole "Float mana" thing wrong?
Title: Re: Floating mana
Post by: Remillo on May 17, 2014, 08:20:59 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 17, 2014, 08:13:14 PM
Floating nana is something I recently learned on here, my question is, if I were to cast {Armageddon} could my opponent float mana?
Say I wanted to {Faith's Reward} afterwards, could they float enough mana for {Counterspell}? Or am I understanding the whole "Float mana" thing wrong?

Sure.  Floating mana just means you've used a mana ability without using it to pay for anything yet.  Your opponent can do this just as easily as you can.
Title: Re: Floating mana
Post by: Splicer on May 17, 2014, 09:07:17 PM
Couldn't he wait until the next phase though, to cast it while his opponent lost the floating mana. Unless he was floating too...
Title: Re: Floating mana
Post by: Remillo on May 17, 2014, 09:10:37 PM
Quote from: Splicer on May 17, 2014, 09:07:17 PM
Couldn't he wait until the next phase though, to cast it while his opponent lost the floating mana. Unless he was floating too...
In this situation, he's floated the mana to cast Faith's Reward.  If he goes to the next step or phase to make his opponent lose their UU, he'll lose his mana, too.
Title: Re: Floating mana
Post by: Splicer on May 17, 2014, 09:11:00 PM
And this is why we use cluestones
Title: Re: Floating mana
Post by: Remillo on May 17, 2014, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: Splicer on May 17, 2014, 09:11:00 PM
And this is why we use cluestones

Pssh, the only Cluestone I run is because of the Draw ability as an extra fallback for if five million things happen when trying to win off of Laboratory Maniac
Title: Re: Floating mana
Post by: Splicer on May 17, 2014, 09:37:53 PM
L{aboratory maniac} is awesome, but there is something he cannot best.

{Storm Crow}!!!
Title: Re: Floating mana
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 17, 2014, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Splicer on May 17, 2014, 09:37:53 PM
Laboratory maniac is awesome, but there is something he cannot best.

{Storm Crow}!!!

On the contrary, if they fought, lab maniac would best him. Done deal.
Title: Re: Floating mana
Post by: Splicer on May 17, 2014, 09:56:54 PM
Only in a fight of brute force.
Title: Re: Floating mana
Post by: Avodroc13 on May 18, 2014, 04:00:43 PM
Is land brought back to the battlefield tapped, or untapped by {Faith's Reward}?
Title: Re: Floating mana
Post by: Ekann1 on May 18, 2014, 04:24:37 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 18, 2014, 04:00:43 PM
Is land brought back to the battlefield tapped, or untapped by {Faith's Reward}?
Depends on the land. Since it doesn't say otherwise, it enters how it would normally enter. Basics normally enter untapped, guildgates enter tapped. It's like they're entering the battlefield normally.
Title: Re: Floating mana
Post by: MuggyWuggy on May 19, 2014, 03:06:03 PM
Just so it's clear:

Mana pool empties at end of each phase.

You cast Armageddon - destroy all lands

Response - opponent taps all lands to float mana, you do the same

Armageddon resolves; destroy all lands

-------here's where your question happens -----

Faiths reward paid for with floating mana

Opponent uses floating mana for counterspell

Faiths reward is countered if you have no response