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Title: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: MuggyWuggy on May 16, 2014, 09:15:43 PM
Recently was looking at  {Captain Sisay} ftvL version and his printing was strange, I could see the dpi of the print.

When I did the blacklight test: the back of the card didnt not get a darker hue, instead it stayed lighter

So now I wonder for anyone with FTV:L is the foil process different for this, keep in mind I tested FTV 20 cards and they didn't have this same affect.

I got this from a trusted trader and so I prefer to resolve the issue in private, incase people wonder who it was.
Title: Re: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: ibtrickey on May 16, 2014, 09:42:27 PM
Well it is not hard to fake a card.. Just costs a lot..
Title: Re: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: imthelolrus on May 16, 2014, 10:42:00 PM
I have a FTV Sisay, what's the backlight test?
Title: Re: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: ibtrickey on May 16, 2014, 11:04:02 PM
Black light. Hold one up to the card on front and back. Wotc ink will be a specific tint/color while other inks of say a 'fake' card will be different:)
Title: Re: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: Stoneco1d869 on May 16, 2014, 11:13:24 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on May 16, 2014, 09:15:43 PM
Recently was looking at  {Captain Sisay} ftvL version and his printing was strange, I could see the dpi of the print.

When I did the blacklight test: the back of the card didnt not get a darker hue, instead it stayed lighter

So now I wonder for anyone with FTV:L is the foil process different for this, keep in mind I tested FTV 20 cards and they didn't have this same affect.

I got this from a trusted trader and so I prefer to resolve the issue in private, incase people wonder who it was.

Just my two cents, but that card is not worth faking...
Title: Re: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: ibtrickey on May 16, 2014, 11:36:46 PM
I agree but ehh.. People faked one dollar bills.. Haha
Title: Re: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: Silent1236 on May 16, 2014, 11:50:22 PM
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on May 16, 2014, 11:13:24 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on May 16, 2014, 09:15:43 PM
Recently was looking at  {Captain Sisay} ftvL version and his printing was strange, I could see the dpi of the print.

When I did the blacklight test: the back of the card didnt not get a darker hue, instead it stayed lighter

So now I wonder for anyone with FTV:L is the foil process different for this, keep in mind I tested FTV 20 cards and they didn't have this same affect.

I got this from a trusted trader and so I prefer to resolve the issue in private, incase people wonder who it was.

Just my two cents, but that card is not worth faking...

That kind of thinking is why people will fake them ;)  They can sell a few bulk fakes and make $20, then they just scored a little free money with moderately low risk involved.
Title: Re: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: Anoobass on May 16, 2014, 11:51:36 PM
Quote from: Ibtrickey on May 16, 2014, 11:36:46 PM
I agree but ehh.. People faked one dollar bills.. Haha

Off topic but IMO ones are the best to fake.  It's harder to make a million dollars, but who questions if it's fake?  Ones don't feel like cloth because they are washed so much which is the biggest sign of a fake.
Title: Re: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on May 17, 2014, 12:37:19 AM
I've found that orange juice will occasionally do that cards.... I spilled some on a foils Rakdos cackler and got a similar effect
Title: Re: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: imthelolrus on May 17, 2014, 01:12:31 AM
Bend test, if that fails rip it in half and look for the blue paper 😜
Title: Re: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: ibtrickey on May 17, 2014, 01:20:14 AM
Haha!!!
Rip test always works
Title: Re: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: LordJanova on May 17, 2014, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 17, 2014, 01:12:31 AM
Bend test, if that fails rip it in half and look for the blue paper 😜
Just clarifying that all of this post is sarcasm or not, but doesn't the bend test not work with foils?
Title: Re: Fake? From the Vault legends
Post by: IntoFire on May 18, 2014, 11:02:59 AM
Quote from: LordJanova on May 17, 2014, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 17, 2014, 01:12:31 AM
Bend test, if that fails rip it in half and look for the blue paper 😜
Just clarifying that all of this post is sarcasm or not, but doesn't the bend test not work with foils?

Foils will bend either way. It does not matter. If you give a foil card some time, it will eventually bend and curl and etc.