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Magic (The Gathering) => Combo Corner => Topic started by: Subiskier on May 13, 2014, 04:17:50 PM

Title: Sliver tink
Post by: Subiskier on May 13, 2014, 04:17:50 PM
{thorncaster sliver} + {bow of nylea}
Title: Re: Sliver tink
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 13, 2014, 05:28:59 PM
I don't see it... What am I missing?
Title: Re: Sliver tink
Post by: AdamS on May 13, 2014, 05:32:10 PM
all creatures have deathtouch so when they attack they can target each creature with 1 damage an kill all the creatures die befor they can block
Title: Re: Sliver tink
Post by: FustyDavorite on May 19, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
Doesn't work.
702.2b (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=702.2b): Any nonzero amount of combat damage assigned to a creature by a source with deathtouch is considered to be lethal damage, regardless of that creature's toughness. See rules 510.1c-d.
Deathtouch only works through combat damage, that is noncombat.
Title: Re: Sliver tink
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 19, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on May 19, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
Doesn't work.
702.2b (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=702.2b): Any nonzero amount of combat damage assigned to a creature by a source with deathtouch is considered to be lethal damage, regardless of that creature's toughness. See rules 510.1c-d.
Deathtouch only works through combat damage, that is noncombat.

This is correct however not totally accurate for the scenario. It DOES work...

702.2c. A creature with toughness greater than 0 that's been dealt damage by a source with deathtouch since the last time state-based actions were checked is destroyed as a state-based action. See rule 704.
Title: Re: Sliver tink
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 19, 2014, 12:35:48 PM
Deathtouch works for all damage dealt. It's why {Niv-Mizzet, the firemind} and {basalisk collar} work so well...

And {goblin sharpshooter} and {basalisk collar}

And more!
Title: Re: Sliver tink
Post by: FustyDavorite on May 19, 2014, 12:36:11 PM
Oh! This is new to me. Pardon my French.
Title: Re: Sliver tink
Post by: MuggyWuggy on May 20, 2014, 03:22:52 PM
Similar to the Polukranos + bow combo
Title: Re: Sliver tink
Post by: Splicer on May 20, 2014, 05:57:58 PM
I prefer {Deathbringer Thoctar} and {Basilisk Collar}

Kill the opposing army and have no loss in counters!
Title: Re: Sliver tink
Post by: Avnger345 on May 20, 2014, 08:33:13 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 19, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on May 19, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
Doesn't work.
702.2b (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=702.2b): Any nonzero amount of combat damage assigned to a creature by a source with deathtouch is considered to be lethal damage, regardless of that creature's toughness. See rules 510.1c-d.
Deathtouch only works through combat damage, that is noncombat.

This is correct however not totally accurate for the scenario. It DOES work...

702.2c. A creature with toughness greater than 0 that's been dealt damage by a source with deathtouch since the last time state-based actions were checked is destroyed as a state-based action. See rule 704.


+1.       Also thorncaster ability says when this creature attacks it deals 1 damage...  Sliver is attacking so bow kicks in giving deathtouch
Title: Re: Sliver tink
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 20, 2014, 09:59:59 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on May 20, 2014, 08:33:13 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 19, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on May 19, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
Doesn't work.
702.2b (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=702.2b): Any nonzero amount of combat damage assigned to a creature by a source with deathtouch is considered to be lethal damage, regardless of that creature's toughness. See rules 510.1c-d.
Deathtouch only works through combat damage, that is noncombat.

This is correct however not totally accurate for the scenario. It DOES work...

702.2c. A creature with toughness greater than 0 that's been dealt damage by a source with deathtouch since the last time state-based actions were checked is destroyed as a state-based action. See rule 704.


+1.       Also thorncaster ability says when this creature attacks it deals 1 damage...  Sliver is attacking so bow kicks in giving deathtouch

+1.    Good explanation!