Is a abilitie count as a spell?
Nope, abilities are abilities. Only when Casting a card is it considered a spell
Quote from: DylanW18 on May 08, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
Nope, abilities are abilities. Only when Casting a card is it considered a spell
sometimes you can copy a spell without casting it. so a spell doesnt have to be cast.
Quote from: particle on May 09, 2014, 01:02:07 AM
Quote from: DylanW18 on May 08, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
Nope, abilities are abilities. Only when Casting a card is it considered a spell
sometimes you can copy a spell without casting it. so a spell doesnt have to be cast.
Very true! +1!
Quote from: particle on May 09, 2014, 01:02:07 AM
Quote from: DylanW18 on May 08, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
Nope, abilities are abilities. Only when Casting a card is it considered a spell
sometimes you can copy a spell without casting it. so a spell doesnt have to be cast.
Can you elaborate with an example please?
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 09, 2014, 02:04:33 AM
Quote from: particle on May 09, 2014, 01:02:07 AM
Quote from: DylanW18 on May 08, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
Nope, abilities are abilities. Only when Casting a card is it considered a spell
sometimes you can copy a spell without casting it. so a spell doesnt have to be cast.
Can you elaborate with an example please?
Sometimes a spell or ability will allow you to copy a spell. Things like {Fork} or {Reiterate}. These effects simply place another copy of the spell on the stack without casting it, so it wont trigger things that trigger when you cast spells.
When you pay the mana cost for, for example, {Avatar of Woe}, and move her from your hand to the battlefield, you're casting a spell. When you tap her to use her activated ability, that is not casting. In most cases, casting a spell is when you play a nonland card from your hand.
Quote from: mtdewaddict on May 09, 2014, 02:08:27 AM
When you pay the mana cost for, for example, {Avatar of Woe}, and move her from your hand to the battlefield, you're casting a spell. When you tap her to use her activated ability, that is not casting. In most cases, casting a spell is when you play a nonland card from your hand.
You got it! Except instead of moving it rom the Hand directly to the battlefield, you move things to what's known as the 'Stack' when you cast them. here, they sit until they resolve, to the battlefield as a permanent, or ending up in the graveyard for Instants or Sorceries.
Quote from: Remillo on May 09, 2014, 02:05:45 AM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 09, 2014, 02:04:33 AM
Quote from: particle on May 09, 2014, 01:02:07 AM
Quote from: DylanW18 on May 08, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
Nope, abilities are abilities. Only when Casting a card is it considered a spell
sometimes you can copy a spell without casting it. so a spell doesnt have to be cast.
Can you elaborate with an example please?
Sometimes a spell or ability will allow you to copy a spell. Things like {Fork} or {Reiterate}. These effects simply place another copy of the spell on the stack without casting it, so it wont trigger things that trigger when you cast spells.
Thanks.
Quote from: Remillo on May 09, 2014, 02:12:02 AM
Quote from: mtdewaddict on May 09, 2014, 02:08:27 AM
When you pay the mana cost for, for example, {Avatar of Woe}, and move her from your hand to the battlefield, you're casting a spell. When you tap her to use her activated ability, that is not casting. In most cases, casting a spell is when you play a nonland card from your hand.
You got it! Except instead of moving it rom the Hand directly to the battlefield, you move things to what's known as the 'Stack' when you cast them. here, they sit until they resolve, to the battlefield as a permanent, or ending up in the graveyard for Instants or Sorceries.
Yep! I was just simplifying it a little so it wasn't too confusing.
Quote from: particle on May 09, 2014, 01:02:07 AM
Quote from: DylanW18 on May 08, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
Nope, abilities are abilities. Only when Casting a card is it considered a spell
sometimes you can copy a spell without casting it. so a spell doesnt have to be cast.
But that's an ability creating a spell, not an ability becoming a spell
Just felt like clarifying that, as the original question asks: is an ability a spell
For further information on what constitutes as casting a spell and the steps required to cast a spell, please see rules 601.2 a-h.
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