Just want to make sure: if I have a {Delaying Shield} and a {Purity} on the table, any damage coming from {Delaying Shield} would heal me since it's an ability, correct? Assuming I am able to keep both in play until my turn, of course. Also, in Commander format, does {Delaying Shield} by itself nullify commander damage?
Yes, it would trigger {Purity}'s life gain . That is noncombat damage. And it would nullify commander damage, as delaying sheild is causing you to lose life, you aren't taking combat damage from an oppenents commander.
Quote from: mtdewaddict on May 07, 2014, 02:49:41 PM
{Question One}:Just want to make sure: if I have a {Delaying Shield} and a {Purity} on the table, any damage coming from {Delaying Shield} would heal me since it's an ability, correct? Assuming I am able to keep both in play until my turn, of course.
If you are dealt combat damage, it would be prevented by delaying shield, you would add counters to it, then have to pay its upkeep cost.
Lifeloss is not damage, so it cannot be prevented during upkeep.
Purity would not affect this scenario as it only applies to non combat damage.
If you were {fireball}'d for 10 damage, purity/shield would prevent that damage simultaneously and you would gain 10 life, and add 10 delay counters to the shield. Then at your upkeep would pay the mana cost or the 10 life.
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{Question Two} Also, in Commander format, does {Delaying Shield} by itself nullify commander damage?
Yes, it prevents damage, adds counters for damage that would hve been done, then you pay upkeep cost. Paying life is not combat damage from their commander.
All good! Thanks for the quick response!
So what you want to do is take all the damage on the shield then { naturalize } it before your upkeep :)
Quote from: Muggywuggy on May 07, 2014, 03:48:32 PM
If you were {fireball}'d for 10 damage, purity/shield would prevent that damage simultaneously and you would gain 10 life, and add 10 delay counters to the shield. Then at your upkeep would pay the mana cost or the 10 life.
Sorry, Mug, I'm going to correct you here. Since both Purity and Delaying shield are prevention effects trying to replace the same event, you choose the order in which they apply. Let's say you have Purity apply first. The damage is prevented and you gain 10 life. Then, when Delaying shield attempts to apply, there's no damage to prevent. Delaying Shield's ability will simply do nothing and it wont gain any counters.
Fringe case would be when the damage can't be prevented, in which case, you'll take 10, gain 10 and put 10 counters on Delaying Shield (which seems like a pretty bad spot to be in)
Ahh thanks
Quote from: Remillo on May 08, 2014, 04:16:53 AM
Fringe case would be when the damage can't be prevented, in which case, you'll take 10, gain 10 and put 10 counters on Delaying Shield (which seems like a pretty bad spot to be in)
{Malignus} vs {delaying Shield} your move
Quote from: Noblellama on May 08, 2014, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 08, 2014, 06:40:51 PM
Quote from: Remillo on May 08, 2014, 04:16:53 AM
Fringe case would be when the damage can't be prevented, in which case, you'll take 10, gain 10 and put 10 counters on Delaying Shield (which seems like a pretty bad spot to be in)
{Malignus} vs {delaying Shield} your move
Patriot deck with {Delaying Shield}, {Donate}, and {Malignus} enchanted with {Aqueous Form}
Lololol time for my {Nuemot the devastator} to have a home
Quote from: Noblellama on May 08, 2014, 10:38:30 PM
Can we get an official ruling on malignus vs a delaying shield?
This is not an issue at all.
Rulings on Delaying Shield
10/4/2004 Note that the damage is replaced and is not "prevented". This means it can replace damage that "can't be prevented".
There's something really silly that CAN happen with Purity. If you opponent has a Malignus, then casts {Souls Fire} to have it dome you, Purity will say "Hey! No! Gain that life!". But then Malignus laughs and says "Hey, my damage can't be prevented! Take it anyways!" It just ends up with no net gain or loss on the life total.