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Title: Pain seer/notion thief
Post by: respawned on May 03, 2014, 01:08:01 PM
If I have {notion thief} in play and my opponent untaps their {pain seer}, do either of us lose life?
Title: Re: Pain seer/notion thief
Post by: DylanW18 on May 03, 2014, 01:50:52 PM
No, and you would not get those card either. "Drawing" and "Putting a card into your hand" are not the same
Title: Re: Pain seer/notion thief
Post by: respawned on May 03, 2014, 01:54:35 PM
Quote from: DylanW18 on May 03, 2014, 01:50:52 PM
No, and you would not get those card either. "Drawing" and "Putting a card into your hand" are not the same

If I had of read pain seer again I prob would have realized this...I was just thinking of pain seer as straight draw :/
Title: Re: Pain seer/notion thief
Post by: Wingnut on May 03, 2014, 02:40:57 PM
Why would you not lose life though? I can agree with the "your not drawing" thing, but nothing's preventing the loss of life that I can see. What'd I miss?
Title: Re: Pain seer/notion thief
Post by: ibtrickey on May 03, 2014, 05:02:43 PM
I think notion thief would have no effect and pain seer would still work and they still lose the life equal to the converted mana:) I like the thought though.
Title: Re: Pain seer/notion thief
Post by: respawned on May 03, 2014, 05:13:27 PM
Quote from: Ibtrickey on May 03, 2014, 05:02:43 PM
I think notion thief would have no effect and pain seer would still work and they still lose the life equal to the converted mana:) I like the thought though.

This
Title: Re: Pain seer/notion thief
Post by: Maxpayne03 on May 03, 2014, 09:10:09 PM
Notion thief on {Brainstorm}; u draw 3 cards and ur opponent put back 2 on top of his library?
Title: Re: Pain seer/notion thief
Post by: ibtrickey on May 04, 2014, 04:14:04 AM
Quote from: Maxpayne03 on May 03, 2014, 09:10:09 PM
Notion thief on {Brainstorm}; you draw 3 cards and your opponent puts 2 on top of his library?
Yes:)