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Title: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 30, 2014, 03:29:33 AM
What do you guys think the best removal for all 5 colors are?  You can take "removal" however you want; creature, enchantment, artifact etc. when I think removal, I think creature removal, so:

{G}- {Beast within}
{W}- {Swords to Plowshares}
{B}- {Dismember}
{U}- ?
{R}- {Lightning Bolt}
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: DylanW18 on April 30, 2014, 03:38:15 AM
For simple removal, I'd say {Vapor Snag} for Blue
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: ibtrickey on April 30, 2014, 03:38:15 AM
{Tragic Slip}
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: imFourth of Phils on April 30, 2014, 04:02:24 AM
{Condemn} {Afterlife} {Exile}
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Splicer on April 30, 2014, 07:45:04 AM
{Ponigify}
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: rarehuntertay on April 30, 2014, 08:04:57 AM
Hmmmm...
White-  {Planar Cleansing}
Blue-  {Upheaval}
Black-   {Killing Wave}
Red-  {Obliterate}
Green- {I don't know?}
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: cltrn81 on April 30, 2014, 08:51:04 AM
Quote from: Splicer on April 30, 2014, 07:45:04 AM
{Ponigify}
This for {U}
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Splicer on April 30, 2014, 08:57:33 AM
It's {U}
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: cltrn81 on April 30, 2014, 11:26:51 AM
Quote from: Splicer on April 30, 2014, 08:57:33 AM
It's {U}
He he thx.  That's what I get for not double checking my hasty post.  Thx
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Coffee Vampire on April 30, 2014, 12:47:24 PM
I like {Go for the Throat} for black.
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: cltrn81 on April 30, 2014, 12:55:51 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on April 30, 2014, 12:47:24 PM
I like {Go for the Throat} for black.
I would say the same but affinity is so prevalent that it makes this card almost useless in competitive formats.
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: FustyDavorite on April 30, 2014, 12:59:21 PM
Boys, boys. I know differentiating by color here, but  {Terminate} has my heart
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: cltrn81 on April 30, 2014, 01:03:10 PM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on April 30, 2014, 12:59:21 PM
Boys, boys. I know differentiating by color here, but  {Terminate} has my heart
{dreadbore} but terminate does defeat regeneration
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: FustyDavorite on April 30, 2014, 01:05:11 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 30, 2014, 01:03:10 PM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on April 30, 2014, 12:59:21 PM
Boys, boys. I know differentiating by color here, but  {Terminate} has my heart
{dreadbore} but terminate does defeat regeneration
and don't forget instant speed. I like to see my opponent slip up before blow something up.
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: cltrn81 on April 30, 2014, 01:26:49 PM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on April 30, 2014, 01:05:11 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 30, 2014, 01:03:10 PM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on April 30, 2014, 12:59:21 PM
Boys, boys. I know differentiating by color here, but  {Terminate} has my heart
{dreadbore} but terminate does defeat regeneration
and don't forget instant speed. I like to see my opponent slip up before blow something up.
Yea for sure
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on April 30, 2014, 03:31:10 PM
Why would anyone play {Pongify} when {Rapid Hybridization} makes Frog Lizard. FROG LIZARD!
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: PrEZchoICE1 on April 30, 2014, 04:47:38 PM
OP do u mean spot or mass removal?

Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 30, 2014, 05:10:14 PM
Any removal. What's your opinion of the best?
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: PrEZchoICE1 on April 30, 2014, 05:29:30 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 30, 2014, 05:10:14 PM
Any removal. What's your opinion of the best?

I'm partial to things like {Boomerang}, {Swords to Plowshares}, {Cyclone}, {Hurricane} {Desert Twister} {Jokuhlhaps} {The Abyss} {Damnation}/{Wrath of God} {Decree of Pain} {Dregs of Sorrow} {Nevinryal's Disk} {Evacuation} to name a few.

There were some really good targetted ones mentioned before as well, one of my current favorites is {Gild}.
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: FustyDavorite on April 30, 2014, 05:35:40 PM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on April 30, 2014, 05:29:30 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 30, 2014, 05:10:14 PM
Any removal. What's your opinion of the best?

I'm partial to things like {Boomerang}, {Swords to Plowshares}, {Cyclone}, {Hurricane} {Desert Twister} {Jokuhlhaps} {The Abyss} {Damnation}/{Wrath of God} {Decree of Pain} {Dregs of Sorrow} {Nevinryal's Disk} {Evacuation} to name a few.

There were some really good targetted ones mentioned before as well, one of my current favorites is {Gild}.
I have to agree on boomerang. Also  {Capsize}
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Condor-Wingman on April 30, 2014, 05:38:14 PM
Spot:

{W}-{Path to Exile}
{B}-{Murder}
{G}-{Desert Twister}
{U}-{Into The Roil}/{Unsummon}
{R}-{Incinerate}

Mass:

{W}-{Wrath of God}/{Day of Judgment}
{B}-{Damnation}/{Black Sun Zenith}
{G}-{Tranquility}/{Terestadon}
{U}-{Evacuation}
{R}-{Flame Wave}/{Worldfire}

Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: PrEZchoICE1 on April 30, 2014, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: Condor-Wingman on April 30, 2014, 05:38:14 PM
Spot:

{W}-{Path to Exile}
{B}-{Murder}
{G}-{Desert Twister}
{U}-{Into The Roil}/{Unsummon}
{R}-{Incinerate}

Mass:

{W}-{Wrath of God}/{Day of Judgment}
{B}-{Damnation}/{Black Sun Zenith}
{G}-{Tranquility}/{Terestadon}
{U}-{Evacuation}
{R}-{Killing Wave}/{Worldfire}

Into the roil is a great mention but Im having a hard time grasping why Killing Wave is so popular. Note: killing wave isnt red.
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Xaol on April 30, 2014, 06:06:25 PM
{Vindicate} for multicoloured. Good against any deck playing permanents :)
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Condor-Wingman on April 30, 2014, 06:25:45 PM
I corrected my post for Red.
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: DylanW18 on April 30, 2014, 06:58:41 PM
{Vapor Snag} is strictly better than {Unsummon}. What about {Bonfire of the Damned} and {Obliterate} and {Blasphemous Act}?
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Silent1236 on April 30, 2014, 07:13:05 PM
{B} - {Dismember}
{W} - {Path to Exile}
{G} - {Beast Within}
{U} - {Cyclonic Rift} (pseudo-removal)
{R} - {Ligtning Bolt}
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Rass on April 30, 2014, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: DylanW18 on April 30, 2014, 06:58:41 PM
{Vapor Snag} is strictly better than {Unsummon}. What about {Bonfire of the Damned} and {Obliterate} and {Blasphemous Act}?

Sucks when you have to  {Vapor Snag} your own creature. Sometimes  {Unsummon} is better.
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Splicer on April 30, 2014, 10:56:41 PM
Quote from: Xaol on April 30, 2014, 06:06:25 PM
{Vindicate} for multicoloured. Good against any deck playing permanents :)
Please, permanents are so last century.
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: DylanW18 on April 30, 2014, 11:04:58 PM
Quote from: Rass on April 30, 2014, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: DylanW18 on April 30, 2014, 06:58:41 PM
{Vapor Snag} is strictly better than {Unsummon}. What about {Bonfire of the Damned} and {Obliterate} and {Blasphemous Act}?

Sucks when you have to  {Vapor Snag} your own creature. Sometimes  {Unsummon} is better.


That's true. It's not a very common occurrence.. Personally I'd say it's worth it :)
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Splicer on April 30, 2014, 11:08:58 PM
Vapor snag is better for the flavor text.
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on April 30, 2014, 11:31:48 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on April 30, 2014, 07:13:05 PM
{B} - {Dismember}
{W} - {Path to Exile}
{G} - {Beast Within}
{U} - {Cyclonic Rift} (pseudo-removal)
{R} - {Ligtning Bolt}
I have to agree with this. {Cyclonic Rift} is amazing. Let's figure out the best for each guild:
{W}{U}-Spot?, {Supreme Verdict}
{W}{B}-{Vindicate}
{W}{R}-{Lightning Helix}, {Wear // Tear}
{W}{G}-{Selesnya Charm} (pretty much the only removal...)
{U}{B}-{Far // Away}
{U}{R}-{Turn // Burn}
{U}{G}-{Trygon Predator}?
{B}{R}-{Dreadbore} or {Terminate}
{B}{G}-{Abrupt Decay}
{R}{G}-{Gruul Ragebeast}??? Maybe {Pit Fight}?
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: PrEZchoICE1 on May 01, 2014, 02:22:26 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on April 30, 2014, 11:31:48 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on April 30, 2014, 07:13:05 PM
{B} - {Dismember}
{W} - {Path to Exile}
{G} - {Beast Within}
{U} - {Cyclonic Rift} (pseudo-removal)
{R} - {Ligtning Bolt}
I have to agree with this. {Cyclonic Rift} is amazing. Let's figure out the best for each guild:
{W}{U}-Spot?, {Supreme Verdict}
{W}{B}-{Vindicate}
{W}{R}-{Lightning Helix}, {Wear // Tear}
{W}{G}-{Selesnya Charm} (pretty much the only removal...)
{U}{B}-{Far // Away}
{U}{R}-{Turn // Burn}
{U}{G}-{Trygon Predator}?
{B}{R}-{Dreadbore} or {Terminate}
{B}{G}-{Abrupt Decay}
{R}{G}-{Gruul Ragebeast}??? Maybe {Pit Fight}?

{R}{G}-{Savage Twister}
Title: Re: Best removal of each color?
Post by: DylanW18 on May 01, 2014, 02:25:57 AM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 01, 2014, 02:22:26 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on April 30, 2014, 11:31:48 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on April 30, 2014, 07:13:05 PM
{B} - {Dismember}
{W} - {Path to Exile}
{G} - {Beast Within}
{U} - {Cyclonic Rift} (pseudo-removal)
{R} - {Ligtning Bolt}
I have to agree with this. {Cyclonic Rift} is amazing. Let's figure out the best for each guild:
{W}{U}-Spot?, {Supreme Verdict}
{W}{B}-{Vindicate}
{W}{R}-{Lightning Helix}, {Wear // Tear}
{W}{G}-{Selesnya Charm} (pretty much the only removal...)
{U}{B}-{Far // Away}
{U}{R}-{Turn // Burn}
{U}{G}-{Trygon Predator}?
{B}{R}-{Dreadbore} or {Terminate}
{B}{G}-{Abrupt Decay}
{R}{G}-{Gruul Ragebeast}??? Maybe {Pit Fight}?

{R}{G}-{Savage Twister}


{Maelstrom Pulse} is also very good