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Title: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on April 29, 2014, 10:15:10 PM
Soul Sisters Norin Thingy

75 cards, 15 sideboard


2 {Mountain}
4 {Clifftop Retreat}
4 {Sacred Foundry}
8 {Plains}
2 {Cavern of Souls}

20 lands


3 {Norin the Wary}
4 {Soul Warden}
4 {Ajani's Pridemate}
2 {Suture Priest}
3 {Purphoros, God of the Forge}
4 {Soul's Attendant}
3 {Ranger of Eos}
1 {Legion Loyalist}
4 {Champion of the Parish}

28 creatures


4 {Lightning Bolt}
1 {Elspeth, Knight-Errant}
3 {Path to Exile}
4 {Genesis Chamber}

12 other spells


Sideboard

1 {Spellskite}
2 {Stony Silence}
1 {Leyline of Sanctity}
3 {Wear // Tear}
2 {Blood Moon}
1 {Brave the Elements}
2 {Suppression Field}
1 {Path to Exile}
2 {Grafdigger's Cage}

15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on April 29, 2014, 10:28:05 PM
This looks suspiciously similar to Spencer's deck
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on April 29, 2014, 10:31:17 PM
Which is where? I got it off a tcgplayer article and messed around with the card numbers a bit. I'll probably add a few more new things when I get time.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 29, 2014, 10:51:51 PM
I like {cavern of souls} in this deck. I can't believe I didn't think of that. I'd cut the genesis chamber down to 2 and add another path and bolt.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on April 29, 2014, 11:30:58 PM
The genesis chamber seems so good with purphoroa though... Maybe I should add another legion loyalist.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: MacheteMable on April 30, 2014, 02:24:10 AM
Saw this on,tcg player. I think there really may be too many triggers to remember haha
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on April 30, 2014, 07:16:33 AM
Quote from: MacheteMable on April 30, 2014, 02:24:10 AM
Saw this on,tcg player. I think there really may be too many triggers to remember haha
I already have most of the norin stuff from my RG norin deck, so don't need much more and thought if try it. :)
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 13, 2014, 07:44:37 PM
Ok, now I need a sideboard for this for a tournament. This is a sideboard I found online, any suggestions for changes? (Also, I'd appreciate being told what those cards are for :P )

2 {Blood Moon}
2 {Brave the Elements}
1 {Dismember}
1 {Path to Exile}
1 {Proclamation of Rebirth}
2 {Rest in Peace}
2 {Stony Silence}
2 {Suppression Field}
2 {Wear // Tear}
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 13, 2014, 09:18:25 PM
:D
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 14, 2014, 05:27:54 PM
Do I need {Grafdigger's Cage} against Pod?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Spencer Addington on May 14, 2014, 07:55:26 PM
Rest in peace seems better just because there is more artifact hate than enchantment hate in sideboards.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 14, 2014, 08:36:09 PM
I think Rest in Peace is fine. Also, I have some.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on May 14, 2014, 11:59:30 PM
2 {Blood Moon}
2 {Brave the Elements}
1 {Dismember}
1 {Path to Exile}
1 {Proclamation of Rebirth}
2 {Rest in Peace}
2 {Stony Silence}
2 {Suppression Field}
2 {Wear // Tear}

Blood Moon vs any 3 color deck really :p also against decks that rely heavily on their lands like MURICA Control needs {Celestial Colonade} and Tron needs it's bits!

Brave is for removal heavy decks and sometimes just against creature decks so you 7/7 Champ of Parish can get in!

Dismember/Path are for Twin as well as creature heavy decks.

Proclamation i don't really know but it's good against removal heavy decks and I guess it's great vs. control

RIP is for Pod, sometimes MURICA Control (of you're scared of snapcasters,obviously dredge/gy themed decks

Stoney is against AFFINITY!! And Pod

Suppression field I guess is for Affinity and Pod

Wear/tear vs bogle (Hexproof) and for affinity and pod!

Obviously these cards have other uses and I may not be right in some calls so it's up to you but I think that this is a decent start point!

Best of LUCK!!!

And Long. Live. THE WARY!!!
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 15, 2014, 06:47:58 AM
Thanks and +1!! Very helpful.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: DrainCleaner on May 16, 2014, 12:52:20 PM
If u can manage to pick any up, {Arid Mesa} would be the best thing for it
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Spencer Addington on May 16, 2014, 01:07:18 PM
No {leyline of sanctity} in the sideboard? It hurts jund, storm and other targety type things.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: cltrn81 on May 16, 2014, 01:15:16 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on May 16, 2014, 01:07:18 PM
No {leyline of sanctity} in the sideboard? It hurts jund, storm and other targety type things.
Gotta see {scape shift} decks

So they leyline will help with {valakut molten pinnacle}
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 16, 2014, 03:05:09 PM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on May 16, 2014, 12:52:20 PM
If u can manage to pick any up, {Arid Mesa} would be the best thing for it
Yeah, I know, but a little out of my price range :(
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 16, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
Maybe cut the proclamation to sideboard a leyline?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on May 16, 2014, 07:27:57 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 16, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
Maybe cut the proclamation to sideboard a leyline?

Agreed!
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: lotrwk on May 17, 2014, 01:51:59 AM
I don't know if it's too great, but I always like {Kataki's war rage} against affinity, and {ethersworn canonist} against storm
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 17, 2014, 07:58:44 AM
Quote from: ConanEdo on May 16, 2014, 09:36:18 PM
Run cage over Rest in Peace. It stops tutoring in Pod which is where it's true power lies and can hose snappy. RIP helps against Living End, but you're more likely to see Pod and UWR.
RIP doesn't work against pod? Wait, I guess they can return it in response to the trigger. So {grafdiggers cage} is better.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 17, 2014, 08:05:56 AM
Is kataki more useful in the board than {suppression field} ?

And should I play {rest in peace} in the sideboard or {grafdigger's cage}?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: fj76ts4 on May 17, 2014, 10:57:02 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 17, 2014, 07:58:44 AM
Quote from: ConanEdo on May 16, 2014, 09:36:18 PM
Run cage over Rest in Peace. It stops tutoring in Pod which is where it's true power lies and can hose snappy. RIP helps against Living End, but you're more likely to see Pod and UWR.
RIP doesn't work against pod? Wait, I guess they can return it in response to the trigger. So {grafdiggers cage} is better.

RIP is a replacement effect, not a triggered effect, so the finks/redcaps can't return anyways, but the cage is much bettter because with RIP out, they can still tutor and beat you down. It just stops some of the value plays. RIP is even more useless against Kiki-Pod- their combo doesn't even need the graveyard.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 17, 2014, 11:09:38 PM
Cage it is.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 18, 2014, 11:16:28 AM
Got 2 battlefield forges, a soul warden, and a path yesterday :D
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Spencer Addington on May 18, 2014, 07:43:04 PM
You need 4 {sacred foundries}
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 18, 2014, 09:03:04 PM
I'm using battlefield forge until I can find or buy some foundries, but they are last on my buy list as the forge works almost as well.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Silent1236 on May 18, 2014, 09:06:09 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 18, 2014, 09:03:04 PM
the forge works almost as well.

{Clifftop Retreat} disagrees :P
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 18, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on May 18, 2014, 09:06:09 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 18, 2014, 09:03:04 PM
the forge works almost as well.

{Clifftop Retreat} disagrees :P
True fact. :)

"Almost"
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 18, 2014, 09:08:44 PM
Why are foundries so expensive? All the other shocks are down to 9ish...
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on May 18, 2014, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 18, 2014, 09:08:44 PM
Why are foundries so expensive? All the other shocks are down to 9ish...
Red White in Modern are two big colours
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 18, 2014, 09:24:52 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 18, 2014, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 18, 2014, 09:08:44 PM
Why are foundries so expensive? All the other shocks are down to 9ish...
Red White in Modern are two big colours
Ah. :(
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 19, 2014, 11:27:53 PM
 Since I'm very new to modern I was going to make a "sideboarding guide" for the deck and I was looking for some help with that as well as with the list.

I can't ask anyone to do some, any, or all of this as it's a lot of work, but if you have the time to choose 1 matchup and give your opinion on exactly what to bring in and take out (or close to exactly and I can choose depending on what I see game 1), I'd be VERY appreciative.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 20, 2014, 02:06:32 PM
Ok. Here's a start.


VS Pod

IN
2 {Wear//Tear}
1 {Path to Exile}
2 {Stony Silence}
2 {Grafdigger's Cage}

OUT
2 {Genesis Chamber}
1 {Grim Lavamancer}
1 {Lightning Bolt}
1 {Soul's Attendant}
2 {Mentor of the Meek}


Do I need {Blood Moon} too?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on May 20, 2014, 05:49:41 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 20, 2014, 02:06:32 PM
Ok. Here's a start.


VS Pod

IN
2 {Wear//Tear}
1 {Path to Exile}
2 {Stony Silence}
2 {Grafdigger's Cage}

OUT
2 {Genesis Chamber}
1 {Grim Lavamancer}
1 {Lightning Bolt}
1 {Soul's Attendant}
2 {Mentor of the Meek}


Do I need {Blood Moon} too?

Blood moon would be good but remember they can pod into {Qasali Pridemage} but still I'd put Moon in here
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 20, 2014, 07:48:21 PM
What would you take out? I think these might shut down pod enough anyway.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on May 23, 2014, 07:23:12 AM
Why did you take out Lightning Bolt from Maindeck against Pod? It is actually an amazing card against them.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 23, 2014, 07:38:25 AM
It isn't great against persist guys. Should I not take it out?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on May 23, 2014, 08:46:28 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 23, 2014, 07:38:25 AM
It isn't great against persist guys. Should I not take it out?
It still gets rid of most of their creatures and Pod usually only runs 7 or less persist guys. Yeah you shouldn't take it out.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on May 23, 2014, 09:56:40 AM
Remember you're aggro and a Bolt can just deal 3 to them and win!
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 26, 2014, 10:30:09 PM
So instead of taking bolt out, what else is bad against pod?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 28, 2014, 09:30:57 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 26, 2014, 10:30:09 PM
So instead of taking bolt out, what else is bad against pod?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 28, 2014, 11:37:04 PM
Thinking of putting some amount of {proclamation of rebirth} back in the sideboard against UWR control. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on May 28, 2014, 11:39:24 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 28, 2014, 11:37:04 PM
Thinking of putting some amount of {proclamation of rebirth} back in the sideboard against UWR control. Thoughts?

In your deck .. I approve 👍👌 fits your style perfectly! Get back 2 Champions and a Norin!!!
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Spencer Addington on May 28, 2014, 11:47:58 PM
{immortal servitude} is better imo.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 29, 2014, 10:00:38 AM
Maybe.... but it's 4 mana. (For the same effect, basically). I might want to use that extra 1 to cast another soul sister.

Also, I won't need to get Norin back as he's unkillable! ;)

Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 29, 2014, 10:01:52 AM
Sideboard

2 Wear // Tear
2 Suppression Field
1 Dismember
2 Blood Moon
1 Path to Exile
2 Brave the Elements
2 Stony Silence
1 Leyline of Sanctity
2 Grafdigger's Cage
15 sideboard cards


Maybe... cut the leyline for proclamation? Or do I need it against storm and burn? Maybe get rid of supression field?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 29, 2014, 10:10:17 AM
{Stony Silence}
{Grafdigger's Cage}
{Suppression Field}

These are all good against pod. I don't need 6 things to stop it (I don't think) so I feel like I could cut 1-2 for a {Proclamation of Rebirth}. Which are the least useful of these? Personally I'd cut the {Suppression Fields}s. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 30, 2014, 05:03:17 PM
What do I do about affinity? I guess that's what the supression fields and stony silences are there for.... but I want to cut the supression fields. UGH! Decisions decisions. 

Anyone who knows the modern metagame a bit better have ideas?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on May 30, 2014, 05:06:52 PM
A T2 {Stony Silence} can wreck them!! Also {Wear//Tear} is a great utility card for you!
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 30, 2014, 06:52:26 PM
So I could cut the Fields?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on May 30, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
The way that I see side boarding is this:

1. What decks to I expect?
2. Look at the card.
3. What does it come in against?
4. How many of the decks that I expect does this card come in.

Usually in order for it to be in my SB #4 will have to be 2-3 unless it's needed against a matchup.

SO, looking at {Supression Field} what is it good against?

1. Any Twin variant
2. Affinity
3. Tron lol jk
Actual 3. Would be zoo.

BUT as I was typing this I realized that SF is a control Card wouldn't you much rather just have a card that can end them on spot say bolt or heck even {Ash Zealot} lol
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 30, 2014, 11:22:11 PM
Seems like I have only 4 sideboard cards against affinity, which could be a problem. So I should leave SF in. But I want proclamation of rebirth too. What is the weakest/least useful card in this sideboard?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 30, 2014, 11:23:42 PM
Maybe.... cut the dismember? It seems kinda random. What's it for... Zoo? 4 life is too much. Affinity? 4 life is a lot. .... Stormbreath dragon? Thundermaw?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on May 31, 2014, 06:31:02 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 30, 2014, 11:23:42 PM
Maybe.... cut the dismember? It seems kinda random. What's it for... Zoo? 4 life is too much. Affinity? 4 life is a lot. .... Stormbreath dragon? Thundermaw?
I didn't think those were run in modern
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on May 31, 2014, 06:40:39 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 31, 2014, 06:31:02 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 30, 2014, 11:23:42 PM
Maybe.... cut the dismember? It seems kinda random. What's it for... Zoo? 4 life is too much. Affinity? 4 life is a lot. .... Stormbreath dragon? Thundermaw?
I didn't think those were run in modern

{Thundermaw Hellkite} is but it's a 2-of in MURICA midrange. Dragon isn't seeing play YET (my play group is texting Dragon bc pro white in Modern can be nice)
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on May 31, 2014, 10:05:03 PM
Right, that's what I was wondering why there is a dismember SB.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on June 04, 2014, 07:42:34 PM
I'm having trouble beating bogle/hexproof decks in my testing. Ideas?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 04, 2014, 07:47:14 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on June 04, 2014, 07:42:34 PM
I'm having trouble beating bogle/hexproof decks in my testing. Ideas?
{Celestial flare} and laugh!
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on June 04, 2014, 08:14:35 PM
What could I cut from my sideboard? Suppression fields are the only thing I think could come out.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on June 09, 2014, 08:29:53 PM
Final sideboard, any last thoughts on it before I buy this thing?

2 {Wear // Tear}
2 {Suppression Field}
1 {Proclamation of Rebirth}
2 {Blood Moon}
1 {Path to Exile}
2 {Brave the Elements}
2 {Stony Silence}
1 {Leyline of Sanctity}
2 {Grafdigger's Cage}

Are the supression fields useful enough against fetches/pod/twin/kiki jiki to not swap out for {Celestial Flare}s? Now that I write that list they seem pretty good... :P but my Twin/Kiki matchup is pretty good with the soul sisters I have, so I don't know.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Vindog on June 10, 2014, 10:30:18 AM
Just a question but would  {Searing Meditation} be viable in R&W soul sisters for lat game mana sink?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Prplprince on June 10, 2014, 10:46:39 AM
I run kikipod and suppression field is a big nuisance sometimes when you're stuck on creatures or mana. Forcing me to burn two more mana stops me from poding at least once maybe even twice if my life total is high and those extra pods I'm not taking gives you more turns to get to something scarier like that damn cage
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on June 10, 2014, 04:46:41 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on June 10, 2014, 10:46:39 AM
I run kikipod and suppression field is a big nuisance sometimes when you're stuck on creatures or mana. Forcing me to burn two more mana stops me from poding at least once maybe even twice if my life total is high and those extra pods I'm not taking gives you more turns to get to something scarier like that damn cage
Makes sense, thanks. I just wish I made more room for anti-bogle tech. :P
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Prplprince on June 11, 2014, 08:06:42 AM
The problem comes with the fact you only get 15 for the sideboard. If you could answer every matchup with your sideboard then the deck you are playing musta been insane. I still think you have a great chance against them just play smart
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on June 19, 2014, 03:59:04 PM
Just finished a game with this... Had 106 life at the end....
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on June 19, 2014, 04:05:01 PM
Lmfao
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on June 19, 2014, 04:52:35 PM
3 soul sisters, Norin and a genesis chamber vs gw hatebear stuff. He had left the game the turn before I drew my 4th soul sister....( untap.in)
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on June 20, 2014, 11:45:02 PM
I'm staring to feel like a second leyline is needed SB. The cards needed for a good hand are relatively specific and in testing I've had many good hands turn into terrible ones after a {thoughtsieze} or 2 rips them apart. I think the proclamation of rebirth is a little random anyway.

Question is, which is better?: more consistency against thoughtsieze or a possible better matchup against UWR control?

I'm thinking the second leyline is better.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on June 29, 2014, 09:46:19 PM
I'm having a hard time deciding whether to bring this up to 22 lands or not... it does have a few 4 drops. Maybe with no fetches and 21 lands it'll be ok.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 29, 2014, 09:59:27 PM
How does it play? Do you find that most of your hands don't have enough land? If so, bump it up. If not, don't add any.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on June 29, 2014, 10:14:46 PM
I've been testing it with both and find I draw a little too many with 22 and occasionally not enough with 21. Maybe... Play half a land! :P

I guess more testing is in order.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 29, 2014, 10:27:07 PM
Do you have the physical deck?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on June 29, 2014, 11:06:19 PM
I was in the process of ordering it tonight when I thought about this. I've been playtesting a LOT on untap.in.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on June 30, 2014, 10:21:20 PM
Ordered everything! Cost me a bit of money, but I'm very happy! :)

Of course, I have no trades over $5 after selling everything on tcgplayer to buy this deck, but whatever :P
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 02, 2014, 08:57:32 PM
I HATE {Torpor Orb}. It destroys my whole deck... It is literally my least favorite card in the whole format, with {Thoughtsieze} at a close second....

I'm still debating a 1 card sideboard change:

-1 {Suppression Field} (Good vs pod, twin)

+1 {Pithing Needle} (Good vs pod, twin, walkers, colonnades, affinity, BAD against torpor orb)
OR
+1 {Wear//Tear} (Good vs pod, twin but not kiki-jiki, affinity, GOOD against torpor orb)

Can someone who is not as new to the format and knows more about the meta give me a hand here? Thanks!! Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on July 02, 2014, 09:26:42 PM
What exactly do you need?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 02, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
I want to stop {torpor orb} because it sits down my whole deck. However I got some advice from a friend that I'm better off with a pithing needle. Problem is, needle does nothing vs orb.

I'm weighing the likelihood of playing against torpor orb vs the gain I get from playing pithing needle over orb (and having a lower chance of being able to deal with orb when I do play against it).
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 04, 2014, 08:07:48 PM
I'm very proud of this deck now... I just won fighting through a hardcasted Emrakul vs Tron... sacced every permanent but my Purphoros and {Champion of the Parish}, lost my champion to a Karn, but still he went to 2 from Purphoros/Norin. Then I attacked with norin and killed him end of turn!! :D :D :D So awesome!
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: cltrn81 on July 05, 2014, 02:25:20 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on July 02, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
I want to stop {torpor orb} because it sits down my whole deck. However I got some advice from a friend that I'm better off with a pithing needle. Problem is, needle does nothing vs orb.

I'm weighing the likelihood of playing against torpor orb vs the gain I get from playing pithing needle over orb (and having a lower chance of being able to deal with orb when I do play against it).
Red and white both have access to artifact hate.  Just run something in the SB for orb.

I was gonna say {wear // tear} but you already have.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 05, 2014, 05:39:00 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on July 05, 2014, 02:25:20 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on July 02, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
I want to stop {torpor orb} because it sits down my whole deck. However I got some advice from a friend that I'm better off with a pithing needle. Problem is, needle does nothing vs orb.

I'm weighing the likelihood of playing against torpor orb vs the gain I get from playing pithing needle over orb (and having a lower chance of being able to deal with orb when I do play against it).
Red and white both have access to artifact hate.  Just run something in the SB for orb.

I was gonna say {wear // tear} but you already have.

This was what I meant to say, sorry it was confusing. I was debating wear/tear #3 over pithing needle #1. I've decided on wear/tear, now I just need to find one.
I get from playing pithing needle over {wear//tear} (and having a lower chance of being able to deal with orb when I do play against it).
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Teysa karlov on July 05, 2014, 06:35:38 PM
Player against a W/R/b reason of this
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Chargingswadger on July 07, 2014, 12:21:54 AM
Ya can't attack with norin it would blink itself :/
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on July 07, 2014, 12:24:01 AM
Quote from: Chargingswadger on July 07, 2014, 12:21:54 AM
Ya can't attack with norin it would blink itself :/

Nobody said you could :) but you still can swing with him if ya want the trigger :P which EK does!!
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Chargingswadger on July 07, 2014, 12:42:43 AM
My mistake. When he said above he attacked with norin I thought he meant winning via combat damage.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 07, 2014, 07:11:04 AM
Quote from: Chargingswadger on July 07, 2014, 12:21:54 AM
Ya can't attack with norin it would blink itself :/
It's a very useful thing to do.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 10, 2014, 09:22:22 PM
I've decided to start testing without the {Mentors of the Meek}. I always seem to sideboard them out and am rarely happy to draw them unless I have my "combo engine" going and lots of land. Decklist update will be soon.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 13, 2014, 11:57:34 AM
Do I need {Spellskite} in the board against Bogle?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Spencer Addington on July 13, 2014, 12:03:38 PM
It's a rare thing to see bogle.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on July 13, 2014, 07:32:55 PM
I know you have tons of hate for twin and stuff but skite deals with both bogle and twin quite well
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 13, 2014, 08:11:09 PM
That is true. I mostly test on untap.in where "modern"  is UW merfolk with {Stonybrook Schoolmaster} and {Springleaf Drum} as a combo... so I haven't tested against Twin much. Problem for me against Bogle is really the {Rancor} and the {Daybreak Coronet}. I can deal with it otherwise, even when I don't draw my {Blood Moon}s. I guess that's fixed with the third copy of {Wear//Tear} in the sideboard.

It seems that more testing is in order.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 15, 2014, 10:02:27 PM
How about {return to the ranks} for this deck? I'm thinking it's better than {proclamation of rebirth}
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 15, 2014, 10:20:26 PM
3 Wear // Tear
1 Suppression Field
1 Proclamation of Rebirth
2 Blood Moon
1 Path to Exile
2 Brave the Elements
2 Stony Silence
1 Leyline of Sanctity
2 Grafdigger's Cage

Still agonizing over this sideboard... I'd really like to make room for 2 of the new {Return to the Ranks}... Seems really good against any removal heavy deck. Plus it can get {Ajani's Pridemate} back. I'd also like another {Suppression Field} against Twin... and {Spellskite} too.... lol.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 15, 2014, 10:53:28 PM
Couldn't we all agree just to sideboard 20 cards and be done with it?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 19, 2014, 05:53:10 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on April 29, 2014, 10:15:10 PM
Soul Sisters Norin Thingy

75 cards, 15 sideboard


2 {Mountain}
4 {Clifftop Retreat}
4 {Sacred Foundry}
8 {Plains}
2 {Cavern of Souls}

20 lands


3 {Norin the Wary}
4 {Soul Warden}
4 {Ajani's Pridemate}
2 {Suture Priest}
3 {Purphoros, God of the Forge}
4 {Soul's Attendant}
3 {Ranger of Eos}
1 {Legion Loyalist}
4 {Champion of the Parish}

28 creatures


4 {Lightning Bolt}
1 {Elspeth, Knight-Errant}
3 {Path to Exile}
4 {Genesis Chamber}

12 other spells


Sideboard

1 {Spellskite}
2 {Stony Silence}
1 {Leyline of Sanctity}
3 {Wear // Tear}
2 {Blood Moon}
1 {Brave the Elements}
2 {Suppression Field}
1 {Path to Exile}
2 {Grafdigger's Cage}

15 sideboard cards


This is the final list I'll be registering for GP Boston-Worcester next week! We'll see how it goes.... Now onto my sideboard guide. Any help with that would be nice.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on July 19, 2014, 07:11:31 PM
Wait 1 is Legion Loyalist worth it? Sure trample and first strike are nice but your swinging with 1/1s who cares about trample ({Charging Badger}) and 1st strike and the tokens (although it kills my deck) won't be too relevant
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 19, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
{Genesis Chamber} tokens.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 19, 2014, 10:03:13 PM
Plus it's nice to give my 35/35 pridemate trample.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on July 20, 2014, 12:29:38 AM
True my bad :( just throwing my opinion out there!!!

Also best of luck and shoot me a pm anytime and we can play test on untap ill net deck some decks that you can expect so you can test
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 20, 2014, 09:15:02 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 20, 2014, 12:29:38 AM
True my bad :( just throwing my opinion out there!!!

Also best of luck and shoot me a pm anytime and we can play test on untap ill net deck some decks that you can expect so you can test
No problem, no need to apologize, and thanks for the offer! :)
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 20, 2014, 01:36:36 PM
Might have to cut elspeth for a land, I never seem to draw enough.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on July 22, 2014, 09:35:54 AM
I own most of the cards for this deck, it's really fun but I think soul sisters is more competitive :(
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Mattao19 on July 22, 2014, 09:56:03 AM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on July 22, 2014, 09:35:54 AM
I own most of the cards for this deck, it's really fun but I think soul sisters is more competitive :(

Except soul sisters has few win cons and is hard to win late here he pressures the opp early and can finish with Purphoros
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 22, 2014, 04:58:45 PM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on July 22, 2014, 09:35:54 AM
I own most of the cards for this deck, it's really fun but I think soul sisters is more competitive :(
You mean mono white soul sisters?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 22, 2014, 09:44:40 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on July 22, 2014, 09:39:04 PM
Honestly, neither is tier 1. Both are easily disrupted and as with any linear strategy, it can often just fold.
Did anyone say they were? Competitive is not strictly tier 1, is it?
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on July 23, 2014, 08:25:48 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on July 22, 2014, 09:44:40 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on July 22, 2014, 09:39:04 PM
Honestly, neither is tier 1. Both are easily disrupted and as with any linear strategy, it can often just fold.
Did anyone say they were? Competitive is not strictly tier 1, is it?
It is tier 1 and tier 2. Souls Sisters is hardly tier 2 and this isn't even tier 3.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 25, 2014, 04:54:18 PM
We were talking about being MORE competitive, even if they aren't tier 1.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 25, 2014, 07:01:34 PM
What would you take out vs pod?

Soul Sisters Sideboard guide

75 cards, 15 sideboard


2 Mountain
4 Clifftop Retreat
4 Sacred Foundry
9 Plains
2 Cavern of Souls
21 lands


3 Norin the Wary
4 Soul Warden
4 Ajani's Pridemate
2 Suture Priest
3 Purphoros, God of the Forge
4 Soul's Attendant
3 Ranger of Eos
1 Legion Loyalist
4 Champion of the Parish
28 creatures


4 Lightning Bolt
3 Path to Exile
4 Genesis Chamber
11 other spells


Sideboard

1 Spellskite
2 Stony Silence
1 Leyline of Sanctity
3 Wear // Tear
2 Blood Moon
1 Brave the Elements
2 Suppression Field
1 Path to Exile
2 Grafdigger's Cage
15 sideboard cards

Sideboard guide

Vs Merfolk
In
1 Path to Exile
2 Wear//Tear
Out
3 Genesis Chamber


Vs Splinter Twin
In
2 Suppression Field
2 Wear//Tear
1 Spellskite
1 Path to exile
Out
4 Genesis Fhamber
1 Legion Loyalist

Vs Affinity
In
2 Stony Silence
1 Path to Exile
2 Suppression Field
Out
4 Genesis Chamber
1 Suture Priest

Vs RG Tron
In
2 Blood Moon
2 Stony Silence
1 Brave the Elements
1 Wear//Tear
Out
1 Path to Exile
3 Lightning Bolt
2 Suture Priest

Vs UWR Control
In
2 Blood Moon
1 Spellskite
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Brave the Elements
Out
2 Path to Exile
1 Legion Loyalist
2 Suture Preist

Vs RDW
In
1 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Path to Exile
1 Spellskite
Out
3 Genesis Chamber

Vs Jund
In
1 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Path to Exile
1 Brave the Elements
Out
1 Purphoros, God of the Forge
2 Genesis Chamber

Vs Burn
In
1 Spellskite
1 Leyline of Sanctity
Out
1 Path to Exile
1 Genesis Chamber

Vs Melira Pod
In
2 Stony Silence
2 Blood Moon
2 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Wear//Tear
1 Path to Exile
Out
3 Genesis Chamber
1 Purphoros, God of the Forge
1 Lightning Bolt
4 SOMETHING - suggestions?

Vs Kikipod
In
2 Suppression Field
1 Path to Exile
2 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Blood Moon
2 Wear//Tear
Out
3 Genesis Chamber
2 Lightning Bolt
1 Purphoros, God of the Forge
1 Legion Loyalist
2 SOMETHING - Suggestions?

Vs The Rock


Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on July 25, 2014, 09:58:09 PM
Ranger of Eos seems kinda meh against pod because the soul sisters wouldn't be as good against it because it can just combo you
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 25, 2014, 10:31:58 PM
It can grab stuff like Norin and champion of the parish for when things turn to creature agro (hopefully) but you may be right.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on July 25, 2014, 10:46:58 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on July 25, 2014, 04:54:18 PM
We were talking about being MORE competitive, even if they aren't tier 1.
Did you read what I said? The competitive format is Tier 1 and Tier 2. But I didn't say anything about being more competitive, they just won't be tier 1 or tier 2.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 26, 2014, 06:32:04 AM
This isn't really helpful to the discussion of sideboards...
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on July 26, 2014, 08:30:27 PM
Event log

Round 1: 2-0 vs Grixis Cruel Control
Round 2: 2-0 vs UB Faeries
Round 3: 0-2 vs GWB Melira Pod
Round 4: 2-1 vs UR Splinter Twin
Round 5: 0-2 vs RUG Delver
Round 6: 1-2 vs RG Tron
Round 7: 0-2 vs Ad Nauseum
Round 8: 0-2 vs BW Tokens

I was tired and drawing terribly after round 5.
Title: Re: Soul Sisters Norin Thingy
Post by: Ekann1 on February 21, 2015, 06:01:53 PM
Bumping this back out of obscurity for a bit to help others :)