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Title: Athreos
Post by: respawned on April 19, 2014, 04:32:40 PM
If {athreos, god of passage} dies along with the creatures that gave him devotion, would his ability trigger?
Title: Re: Athreos
Post by: FustyDavorite on April 19, 2014, 06:02:50 PM
It wouldn't. His ability requires a creature to hit the graveyard, and when he dies he's in the graveyard and his ability does not trigger. That's why some abilities state "When [this creature] or another creature dies, [ability]."
Title: Re: Athreos
Post by: FustyDavorite on April 19, 2014, 06:03:20 PM
I'm trying to think of an example, but I got nothin
Title: Re: Athreos
Post by: respawned on April 19, 2014, 06:14:46 PM
I know it won't trigger itself...but if {xathrid necromancer} is able to trigger when it hits the yard...shouldn't athreos' as well?
Title: Re: Athreos
Post by: FustyDavorite on April 19, 2014, 06:28:57 PM
Xathrid states "when Xathrid Necromancer or another human creature dies... etc" where Athreos does not state himself in his ability. That's what makes the difference.
Title: Re: Athreos
Post by: Giggle the Draco Genius on April 19, 2014, 06:51:48 PM
The ability would trigger, mtg has a simultaneous ruling that states if things happen at the same time they all see it happen.

I can't find the exact ruling right now but here is the ruling from {xathrid necromancer} that has a good example of this.

7/1/2013    If Xathrid Necromancer dies at the same time as another Human creature you control, its ability will trigger twice.
Title: Re: Athreos
Post by: FustyDavorite on April 19, 2014, 07:12:42 PM
Oh man I completely read the question wrong. I thought you were asking that if Athreos died while devotion was reached would his ability trigger. Sorry!
Title: Re: Athreos
Post by: respawned on April 19, 2014, 08:51:24 PM
To a board wipe such as {mutilate} or similar