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Title: Legacy counters
Post by: rarehuntertay on April 15, 2014, 09:53:39 AM
After  {Force of Will} and  {Daze}, what are the best counters in Legacy? I don't think I can drop the money for a playset of FoW...
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: FustyDavorite on April 15, 2014, 10:00:10 AM
You know, I really think  {Spell Pierce} is pretty solid. If you're playing red, definitely  {Red Elemental Blast}. And don't forget  {Mana Leak}
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: ihasfrozen on April 15, 2014, 11:20:00 AM
 {Counterspell},  {Swan Song}, {Spell Pierce}
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: Falcon182 on April 15, 2014, 11:47:24 AM
I love me some  {Flusterstorm}.
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: Remillo on April 15, 2014, 11:52:22 AM
Most Tempo and Control decks run Daze and Force of Will, since they can be cast without giving up the ability to cast spells on your turn.  The next most popular has to be Spell Pierce, because it costs only a single mana.  Swan Song also sees a little play in decks that just don't care about giving the opponent a 2/2.  UW(r) Miracles occasionally plays Counterspell, as it fills another slot and only costs too mana.  Red-Based decks will play Red Elemental Blast and Pyroblast.  Both work really well with Painter's servant, as it lets you counter or blow up anything.  Young Pyromancer decks prefer Pyroblast, because it can be cast with any target to generate a 1/1, even if it fails to blow anything up.  Oh, and then there's Flusterstorm.  Which is Flusterstorm.
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: ihasfrozen on April 15, 2014, 12:30:36 PM
Control decks don't run daze, but I agree with the rest.
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: Coffee Vampire on April 15, 2014, 12:59:47 PM
{Misdirection} is used in some decks.
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: Splicer on April 15, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
What would happen if you used {misdirection} on a counterspell (say, {cancel}), and redirected it to {misdirection}?
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: MisterJH on April 15, 2014, 04:47:37 PM
Mindsploosh
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: cltrn81 on April 15, 2014, 05:03:49 PM
{remand} is good and {arcane denial} is ok depending on the deck it's in
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: Remillo on April 15, 2014, 07:05:28 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 15, 2014, 04:53:33 PM
Quote from: Splicer on April 15, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
What would happen if you used {misdirection} on a counterspell (say, {cancel}), and redirected it to {misdirection}?
Direction would already have resolves, so nothing.

Well  the way that it works is that Misdirection is still on the stack while it's resolving, so it's a legal choice to change a target to.  You change the target to Misdirection, it goes to the graveyard, then the original Counterspell is countered by the game due to lack of legal target.  Pretty standard use of redirect cards.
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: rarehuntertay on April 15, 2014, 07:21:10 PM
Ok, the counters are for a Merfolk deck
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: Falcon182 on April 15, 2014, 10:00:14 PM
Quote from: Splicer on April 15, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
What would happen if you used {misdirection} on a counterspell (say, {cancel}), and redirected it to {misdirection}?

I don't know what format you're playing with cancel and misdirection but it probably isn't legacy. ;-)
Title: Re: Legacy counters
Post by: Splicer on April 15, 2014, 10:50:05 PM
Standard, obviously