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Title: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Johng4490 on April 02, 2012, 09:25:23 PM
How did I not know it was coming out?
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Fenster on April 02, 2012, 09:29:32 PM
What?
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 09:36:56 PM
I gotz mine!  ๐Ÿ˜
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Johng4490 on April 02, 2012, 09:37:30 PM
I hadn't heard about the Venser/Koth Duel Decks.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Fenster on April 02, 2012, 09:38:15 PM
But i thought they were sort of fwiends and venser "did something that is not to be said"....
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 09:42:24 PM
 yeah, they duked things out before being BFF.

*thanks! ;)*
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Johng4490 on April 02, 2012, 09:43:03 PM
All I know is what I just got at target.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: #noided on April 02, 2012, 09:58:48 PM
Decks were pretty meh. Only thing that really piqued my interest was the alt art venser and koth, and their respective emblems.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Hays413 on April 02, 2012, 10:01:01 PM
Honestly WOTC doesn't seem too concerned about this product. The official page doesn't have a decklist or anything. Junk on their part in my opinion. Are there any alt art cards besides Vensor and Koth?
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Johng4490 on April 02, 2012, 10:04:15 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on April 02, 2012, 10:01:01 PM
Honestly WOTC doesn't seem too concerned about this product. The official page doesn't have a decklist or anything. Junk on their part in my opinion. Are there any alt art cards besides Vensor and Koth?

Theirs a {preordain} I think is alt art. I need to look at the decks more though.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: cltrn81 on April 02, 2012, 10:08:53 PM
I just want a Venser token for my Venser deck
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Johng4490 on April 02, 2012, 10:17:22 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 02, 2012, 10:08:53 PM
I just want a Venser token for my Venser deck
I'll trade you mine. Lol.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:38:31 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on April 02, 2012, 10:01:01 PM
Honestly WOTC doesn't seem too concerned about this product. The official page doesn't have a decklist or anything. Junk on their part in my opinion. Are there any alt art cards besides Vensor and Koth?
I don't know if they ever DO put the Decklist on product pages. I think they expect ppl to search for them. ๐Ÿ˜’
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:42:24 PM
Alt art:
{Preordain}
{Path to Exile} (๐Ÿ˜ƒ)
{Anger} ('cause the last art suct)
{Plated Geopede}
{Koth, of the Hammertime!}
{Venser, The Sunbather}
One more...

(fixed!)
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Johng4490 on April 02, 2012, 11:01:34 PM
I'm thinking of taking Koth out for my Fire and Lightning, in Place of {Keldon Champion}. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: BadLuckIrish on April 02, 2012, 11:45:12 PM
Pssst Jester......the spoiler post u changed....you didnt change the words when you qouted him...just keeping an eye out...Would be happy to change it but i dont have godly forum powers....
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Hays413 on April 02, 2012, 11:56:36 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:38:31 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on April 02, 2012, 10:01:01 PM
Honestly WOTC doesn't seem too concerned about this product. The official page doesn't have a decklist or anything. Junk on their part in my opinion. Are there any alt art cards besides Vensor and Koth?
I don't know if they ever DO put the Decklist on product pages. I think they expect ppl to search for them. ๐Ÿ˜’

Oh I was thinking of the PDS. I still think they're just being lazy though.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: BlackJester on April 03, 2012, 12:49:00 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on April 02, 2012, 11:45:12 PM
Pssst Jester......the spoiler post u changed....you didnt change the words when you qouted him...just keeping an eye out...Would be happy to change it but i dont have godly forum powers....

I was going to leave it... Fixed now! ๐Ÿ‘
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Spikepit on April 03, 2012, 03:44:30 AM
Quote from: Johng4490 on April 02, 2012, 11:01:34 PM
I'm thinking of taking Koth out for my Fire and Lightning, in Place of {Keldon Champion}. Any thoughts?
Koth
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Finlandia on April 03, 2012, 09:23:23 AM
Just bought it. I was going to get one of the Innistrad event decks but they were all out at our petite little game store and I dont really have the disposable income to buy magic cards all that often so I bought the duel decks. They are pretty easy intro decks to MTG. I usually use control decks which are a little complicated, so I was relieved to have these in order to teach my sister MTG.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: remasuri ger on April 03, 2012, 12:46:47 PM
Is it wรถrth its Money?
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on April 03, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
Quote from: remasuri ger on April 03, 2012, 12:46:47 PM
Is it wรถrth its Money?
Koth's deck is jank, the Venser one, is, decent. It has a sweet looking {Path to Exile}! =D
Idk about them being worth their cost though...
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: BlackJester on April 03, 2012, 01:42:21 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:42:24 PM
Alt art:
{Preordain}
{Path to Exile} (๐Ÿ˜ƒ)
{Anger} ('cause the last art suct)
{Plated Geopede}
{Koth, of the Hammertime!}
{Venser, The Sunbather}
One more...
{Chartooth Cougar}
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Guypocolypse on April 03, 2012, 05:16:47 PM
Thats an odd original art
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on April 03, 2012, 05:20:18 PM
It's not alt. art {ponder}, but alt. art {Preordain}.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: BlackJester on April 03, 2012, 06:40:58 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 03, 2012, 05:20:18 PM
It's not alt. art {ponder}, but alt. art {Preordain}.

Thanks!  and through the magic of timetravel, it's been retroactively fixed! ;)
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Wally on April 05, 2012, 04:53:14 AM
On this. I just purchased these decks, am yet to play them, but from reports of people in my meta, the Koth deck is much faster, and unless you get a great opening hand with the Venser deck, crazily hard to win with.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Spikepit on April 05, 2012, 08:51:50 AM
I just bought this pack and I'm heaps looking forward to using that cranky Vulshock's deck!
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: BlackJester on April 05, 2012, 01:10:37 PM
Venser's deck rewards clever, trick players. I think it has the tools to deal with Koth, but you have to make good plays. I like the match.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Wally on April 05, 2012, 05:56:09 PM
So I did end up getting the first match done. We randomized and I ended up with Koth. I started really well, hittin hard early, making him block with creatures and clearing his board a few times. Then I hit a snag as my hand ran dry ad he still had 6 or 7 cards. I pretty much was playing off the top of my deck with 6 mana and he was able to start combining some crazy cards to do some pretty cool stuff.
He came back for the win with unblockables and flyers that I had no answer for.
I think that even if I had played it a little differently I would have only got him down to 4 or 5 before he could combo stuff again and have me all tied up.

So if you can use the red decks early advantage, got for the win at all costs, coz when it comes to the later part of the game, that's all venser's ground.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: darkarts981 on April 05, 2012, 05:59:49 PM
I bought the decks because I wanted the two planeswalkers and their emblems, but ordering them online, was 28$, and the deck was 20, so I just got the whole sha-bang-nit!!
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Silent_one on April 06, 2012, 09:03:15 AM
Are these two decks standard legal?
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: cltrn81 on April 06, 2012, 09:04:29 AM
Quote from: Silent_one on April 06, 2012, 09:03:15 AM
Are these two decks standard legal?

No
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Silent_one on April 06, 2012, 09:27:39 AM
Dame. I was kinda hopefull
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Wally on April 06, 2012, 05:36:41 PM
Some of the cards are, and there are plenty of cards that you could replace to actually make it standard, I'm sorta looking at doing it at the moment.
By playing them more I'll be able to see what the most effective cards in there are and what works best. Koth shouldn't be too hard, venser on the other hand will be a little trickier. Might just use him for my holy grail deck.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: BlackJester on April 06, 2012, 05:39:50 PM
If you are looking for standard precons, I'd suggest event decks. They pack a good wallop right out of the can.
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Wally on April 06, 2012, 05:47:30 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 06, 2012, 05:39:50 PM
If you are looking for standard precons, I'd suggest event decks. They pack a good wallop right out of the can.
Agreed, I just liked the idea of something slightly different. :)

EDIT: I changed my mind, I have so many cooler cards for these decks that are non-standard. Lol
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Rasser on April 07, 2012, 02:42:31 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 06, 2012, 05:39:50 PM
If you are looking for standard precons, I'd suggest event decks. They pack a good wallop right out of the can.
Agreed plus you can always bump them up a notch
Title: Re: Venser vs. Koth
Post by: Richardalcala on April 07, 2012, 05:20:03 AM
Got mine today. Love. Venser deck but not sure about koth never was much for mono red though. Cool packs none the less.