If I pay 4 to cast {Chalice of the Void}, can my opponent {Abrupt Decay} it?
Yes. The chalice fails to counter abrupt decay.
I believe so, because of abrupt decay's firsts ability, which would cancel the ability of chalice of the void.
the gatherer for {chalice of the void} says its cmc is 0. and {abrupt decay} can't be countered. so its a valid target and will resolve.
X in a cards mana cost is deemed to equal zero when the card is in every zone other than the stack. When it's on the stack x is whatever the controlling player decided it was. Once it becomes a permanent x becomes zero.
^ not the point
This is referring to chalice countering abrupt decay which is uncounterable, not about if CMC fits the bill.
Quote from: MisterJH on April 14, 2014, 10:45:42 AM
^ not the point
This is referring to chalice countering abrupt decay which is uncounterable, not about if CMC fits the bill.
It's half the point. The question was can abrupt decay be used to get rid of the artifact. Being a legal target would be integral to the question.
Yea i guess to be fair he didnt specify if he was asking about countering or the CMC i just assumed he was asking about countering cuz thats what most people answered to
If the wording on chalice stated players could not cast cards with CMC = to the counters then I would say yes. But clearly the chalice allows players to cast the spell but then is countered. So I agree you could cast the decay and the chalice would not be able to counter it. Also the counters on the chalice could not put the chalice above 3 CMC since the XX on the chalice would always equal 0 in regards to calculating its CMC