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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Destore117 on April 11, 2014, 02:53:29 AM

Title: Monstrosity
Post by: Destore117 on April 11, 2014, 02:53:29 AM
Does a creature become monstrous when it reaches it's amount of monstrosity +1/+1 counters? Or only when you activate the ability?

Ex. Play {Nessian Asp} with monstrous of 4
If it were to gain 4 +1/+1 counters from somewhere else, would it become monstrous? Or does it only become monstrous upon activated its ability?
Title: Re: Monstrosity
Post by: Giggle the Draco Genius on April 11, 2014, 03:31:40 AM
+1/+1 counters are completely separate from monstrosity as it is possible to become monstrous without adding any counters
e.g., {Polukranos, world eater}

so you must use the ability for it to become monstrous.
Title: Re: Monstrosity
Post by: Destore117 on April 11, 2014, 04:10:44 AM
Ok thanks. Kinda thought of it like Unleash, doesn't matter how the counters got there, but it would become monstrous. Thanks for correction!
Title: Re: Monstrosity
Post by: sithantic on April 11, 2014, 10:04:38 AM
Quote from: Destore117 on April 11, 2014, 04:10:44 AM
Ok thanks. Kinda thought of it like Unleash, doesn't matter how the counters got there, but it would become monstrous. Thanks for correction!

I think you misunderstood. Yes, with Unleash, if you put counters in some other way, it becomes unleashed. But with monstrous, you MUST activate the ability for it to become monstrous. {Stormbreath Dragon} doesn't become monstrous simply because it has 3 +1/+1 counters on it. You still have to activate the ability.
Title: Re: Monstrosity
Post by: Giggle the Draco Genius on April 11, 2014, 11:56:52 AM
Quote from: sithantic on April 11, 2014, 10:04:38 AM
Quote from: Destore117 on April 11, 2014, 04:10:44 AM
Ok thanks. Kinda thought of it like Unleash, doesn't matter how the counters got there, but it would become monstrous. Thanks for correction!

I think you misunderstood. Yes, with Unleash, if you put counters in some other way, it becomes unleashed. But with monstrous, you MUST activate the ability for it to become monstrous. {Stormbreath Dragon} doesn't become monstrous simply because it has 3 +1/+1 counters on it. You still have to activate the ability.

That's what was acknowledged in his reply.
Title: Re: Monstrosity
Post by: sithantic on April 11, 2014, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: Giggle the Draco Genius on April 11, 2014, 11:56:52 AM
Quote from: sithantic on April 11, 2014, 10:04:38 AM
Quote from: Destore117 on April 11, 2014, 04:10:44 AM
Ok thanks. Kinda thought of it like Unleash, doesn't matter how the counters got there, but it would become monstrous. Thanks for correction!

I think you misunderstood. Yes, with Unleash, if you put counters in some other way, it becomes unleashed. But with monstrous, you MUST activate the ability for it to become monstrous. {Stormbreath Dragon} doesn't become monstrous simply because it has 3 +1/+1 counters on it. You still have to activate the ability.

That's what was acknowledged in his reply.

You're right. I misread. So much for typing before coffee.