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Title: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: inFluence on April 01, 2012, 11:02:10 PM
Recently I played a 5-man duel and managed to kill them all. 3 people were using red, and one person was using white. The white deck gave him life everytime someone cast a red spell, which was pretty much every turn. I still managed to knock him off with my Avatar of Woe even though he was at 60+ life. Is the Graveborn deck that powerful?
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: 1337m00nm4n on April 01, 2012, 11:03:37 PM
Yes, yes it is. In my opinion, too overpowered. Take it apart if you want to keep your friends.
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: loop-s-pool on April 01, 2012, 11:14:05 PM
If your friends are so superficial that they'd stop talking to you over a card game, find new friends. Re animator isn't a fun deck, but it also not impossible to beat. Especially game 2 with {Leyline of the Void} and such.
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: 1337m00nm4n on April 01, 2012, 11:19:17 PM
Lolz I was jk. But foil sorin kid has a black white reanimator that also deals with enchantments and artifacts like {grafdiggers cage}. That makes us a little annoyed.
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: inFluence on April 01, 2012, 11:22:06 PM
Yes, the guys just laughed and said good game. But the girl got mad and said the deck was cheat. Haha. I look back on it and realized I had 9/9 and 7/7s out on the playing field for the cost of 2 mana.
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: inFluence on April 01, 2012, 11:23:38 PM
Quote from: loop-s-pool on April 01, 2012, 11:14:05 PM
If your friends are so superficial that they'd stop talking to you over a card game, find new friends. Re animator isn't a fun deck, but it also not impossible to beat. Especially game 2 with {Leyline of the Void} and such.
Oh..oh yes. That card would destroy a reanimator deck. No question.
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: BlackJester on April 01, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 01, 2012, 11:19:17 PM
Lolz I was jk. But foil sorin kid has a black white reanimator that also deals with enchantments and artifacts like {grafdiggers cage}. That makes us a little annoyed.
Apparently he's also cheating with that deck, so....
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: Coffee Vampire on April 02, 2012, 12:27:02 AM
No deck is overpowered...there is always a counter. That's what sideboards are for. :p
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: inFluence on April 02, 2012, 06:25:06 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 01, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 01, 2012, 11:19:17 PM
Lolz I was jk. But foil sorin kid has a black white reanimator that also deals with enchantments and artifacts like {grafdiggers cage}. That makes us a little annoyed.
Apparently he's also cheating with that deck, so....
No -.- in a way, the deck is cheat. I didn't cheat. Bringing back an 8/8 for the prIce of a 1/1 or a 2/2 is pretty overkill, IMO.
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:08:41 AM
What I meant by cheating, is someone pointed out in an earlier thread that he was reanimating {Emrakul, Aeons Torn} on first or second turn. Which is impossible, or at least requires tricks he wasn't using.
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: inFluence on April 02, 2012, 10:21:19 AM
Ah, I see. That's probably a rigged hand then. I didn't have my Avatar until about turn 12.
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:54:21 AM
Quote from: inFluence on April 02, 2012, 10:21:19 AM
Ah, I see. That's probably a rigged hand then. I didn't have my Avatar until about turn 12.
Not rigged, just now way to get it in the gy without something like {Stiffle}.
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: darkarts981 on April 02, 2012, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:54:21 AM
Quote from: inFluence on April 02, 2012, 10:21:19 AM
Ah, I see. That's probably a rigged hand then. I didn't have my Avatar until about turn 12.
Not rigged, just now way to get it in the gy without something like {Stiffle}.
......which can't be played in B/W...
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on April 02, 2012, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 01, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 01, 2012, 11:19:17 PM
Lolz I was jk. But foil sorin kid has a black white reanimator that also deals with enchantments and artifacts like {grafdiggers cage}. That makes us a little annoyed.
Apparently he's also cheating with that deck, so....
Actually i sometimes swear his hands are rigged... He will also just sit there and draw hands in the middle of trying to trade then beg for a game when he gets a good hand
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: 1337m00nm4n on April 02, 2012, 08:42:06 PM
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on April 02, 2012, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 01, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 01, 2012, 11:19:17 PM
Lolz I was jk. But foil sorin kid has a black white reanimator that also deals with enchantments and artifacts like {grafdiggers cage}. That makes us a little annoyed.
Apparently he's also cheating with that deck, so....
Actually i sometimes swear his hands are rigged... He will also just sit there and draw hands in the middle of trying to trade then beg for a game when he gets a good hand
IKR? He tried to cheat once when he got four tome scours in his mill deck hand, but no islands. Then, after I mulligan once, he said he should be able to get a land from his library because I got a free mulligan, even though in our play group we always play with one free mulligan. Also, I still have yet to see his foil sorin.
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: inFluence on April 03, 2012, 10:29:42 AM
Good thing in tourneys that's regulated so there's really not a way to cheat. The graveborn deck is rather slow unless you have a somewhat decent beginning hand. Thats the catch.
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: darkarts981 on April 03, 2012, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 02, 2012, 08:42:06 PM
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on April 02, 2012, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 01, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 01, 2012, 11:19:17 PM
Lolz I was jk. But foil sorin kid has a black white reanimator that also deals with enchantments and artifacts like {grafdiggers cage}. That makes us a little annoyed.
Apparently he's also cheating with that deck, so....
Actually i sometimes swear his hands are rigged... He will also just sit there and draw hands in the middle of trying to trade then beg for a game when he gets a good hand
IKR? He tried to cheat once when he got four tome scours in his mill deck hand, but no islands. Then, after I mulligan once, he said he should be able to get a land from his library because I got a free mulligan, even though in our play group we always play with one free mulligan. Also, I still have yet to see his foil sorin.
Still have to see the foil Sorin? Damn, why hasn't he shown it too you?
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: BlackJester on April 03, 2012, 11:07:24 AM
Quote from: inFluence on April 03, 2012, 10:29:42 AM
Good thing in tourneys that's regulated so there's really not a way to cheat. The graveborn deck is rather slow unless you have a somewhat decent beginning hand. Thats the catch.
That's what mulligans are for. 👌
Title: Re: Premium Deck Graveborn too overpowered?
Post by: remasuri ger on April 03, 2012, 12:54:27 PM
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