Alright, after spending most of the day on it, I have my first draft of this deck. Tell me how it looks and any more suggestions!!
Commander of Death
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
Loyal Minions: 14
{Jace's Archivist}
{Sire of Insanity}
{Psychosis Crawler}
{Kederekt Parasite}
{Fate Unraveler}*
{Seizan, Perverter of Truth}
{Dragon Mage}*
{Nicol Bolas}*
{Stormbreath Dragon}
{Lazav, Dimir Mastermind}
{Mogis, God of Slaughter}
{Nin, the Pain Artist}*
{Master of Cruelties}*
{Massacre Wurm}*
Spells of Demise: 37
{Wheel of Fortune}*
{Time Reversal}
{Time Spiral}*
{Winds of Change}*
{Wheel and Deal}*
{Forced Fruition}*
{Reforge the Soul}*
{Skyscribing}
{Prosperity}
{Windfall}
{Incendiary Command}
{Whispering Madness}
{Dictate of Kruphix}*
{Underworld Dreams}
{Bloodchief Ascension}*
{Gratuitous Violence}*
{Spiteful Visions}
{Price of Knowledge}
{Megrim}
{Liliana's Caress}
{Demonic Tutor}*
{Mystical Tutor}*
{Vampiric Tutor}
{Lim-Dûl's Vault}
{Fact or Fiction}
{Steam Augury}
{Enter the Infinite}
{Arcane Denial}
{Spell Crumple}
{Desertion}
{Dream Fracture}*
{Devastation Tide}
{Cyclonic Rift}
{Evacuation}*
{Hive Mind}*
{Past in Flames}
{Yawgmoth's Will}
Stones of Power: 7
{Teferi's Puzzle Box}*
{Chromatic Lantern}
{Anvil of Bogardan}
{Temple Bell}
{Sol Ring}
{Howling Mine}*
{Memory Jar}*
Beings From Another Dimension: 3
{Chandra Ablaze}
{Jace Beleren}
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker}
The Death Lands: 38
{Watery Grave}
{Temple of Deceit}
{Drowned Catacomb}
{Halimar Depths}
{Temple of the False God}
{Opal Palace}
{Grixis Panorama}
{Crumbling Necropolis}
{Command Tower}
{Bojuka Bog}
{Island}
{Island}
{Island}
{Mountain}
{Mountain}
{Mountain}
{Swamp}
{Swamp}
{Swamp}
{Blood Crypt}*
{Creeping Tar Pit}*
{Temple of Epiphany}*
{Dragonskull Summit}
{Reflecting Pool}*
{Desolate Lighthouse}
{Shivan Reef}*
{Spinerock Knoll}*
{Steam Vents}
{Sulfur Falls}*
{Sulfurous Springs}
{Temple of Malice}
{Underground River}
{Maze of Ith}*
{Volrath's Stronghold}*
{Boseiju, Who Shelters All}*
{Mikokoro, Center of the Sea}*
{Strip Mine}*
{Reliquary Tower}*
* means I still need those
{Windfall}
{Temple Bell}
{Howling Mine}
{Knollspine Dragon}
{Dragon Mage}
{Nin, the Pain Artist}
{Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind}
{Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius}
{Forced Fruition} ends the game
Quote from: DylanW18 on April 01, 2014, 07:00:03 PM
{Forced Fruition} ends the game
lol dear Lord that's awful
{Jaces Archivist} comes to mind
I would run a ton of {Wheel of Fortune} style effects as well as {Howling Mine} and {Underworld Dreams} to hurt other players. The top end on this scale is pricy but {Chains of Mephistopheles} is good for driving people crazy. Please post the build so I can suggest more fun things to do to people in magic, like playing {Black Vise} in this deck or adding {Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur} for the lols.
{prosperity} {bloodgift demon} {vision skeins} all work well. And throw in {reliquary tower} to keep what you have to draw.
{whispering madness}
The jace that has all players draw a card and 1 player draw 20 cards for ult
{duskmantle seer}
Theres probably hundreds of cards thatll help here so youre in for a long haul
{Descent into madness} because I don't know
Quote from: MisterJH on April 01, 2014, 11:20:48 PM
The jace that has all players draw a card and 1 player draw 20 cards for ult
{duskmantle seer}
Theres probably hundreds of cards thatll help here so youre in for a long haul
Quick tip: Duskmantle does not make the player draw the card, just put it in their hand, so Nekusar won't trigger there :) for anyone who is confused
{Teferi's Puzzle Box} is stupid in that deck too
Quote from: DylanW18 on April 01, 2014, 11:45:40 PM
{Teferi's Puzzle Box} is stupid in that deck too
I'd actually prefer {Notion Thief} or {Descent into Madness} of the puzzle box....
The point it the deck is to make your opponent draw themselves to death. The puzzle box means your opponents are taking 5+ damage ish a turn..
Quote from: DylanW18 on April 01, 2014, 11:54:14 PM
The point it the deck is to make your opponent draw themselves to death. The puzzle box means your opponents are taking 5+ damage ish a turn..
Fair point
Quote from: MisterJH on April 01, 2014, 11:20:48 PM
The jace that has all players draw a card and 1 player draw 20 cards for ult
{duskmantle seer}
Theres probably hundreds of cards thatll help here so youre in for a long haul
{Jace Beleren} who would generally just destroy in this deck, even if you don't ult him
Quote from: DylanW18 on April 01, 2014, 11:44:17 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 01, 2014, 11:20:48 PM
The jace that has all players draw a card and 1 player draw 20 cards for ult
{duskmantle seer}
Theres probably hundreds of cards thatll help here so youre in for a long haul
Quick tip: Duskmantle does not make the player draw the card, just put it in their hand, so Nekusar won't trigger there :) for anyone who is confused
:( aww
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on April 01, 2014, 11:49:19 PM
Quote from: DylanW18 on April 01, 2014, 11:45:40 PM
{Teferi's Puzzle Box} is stupid in that deck too
I'd actually prefer {Notion Thief} or {Descent into Madness} of the puzzle box....
{notion thief} hoses the commander
I would still play notion thief. Thief + 1 wheel effect = gg
Yea i mean the thied puzzle combo is still utimate lockout, its just win in a very different way
Wow. I come in and see all the suggestions. Thanks everyone. I'll try to think of a build, this are all good suggestions. Puzzle Box is a definite, I've loved that card since it first came out
Be sure to pick up {Waste Not} when it comes out. That card + {Wheel of Fortune} in a 4 player game is just insanity.
Also, don't forget {Library of Leng} so you can pick and choose which cards you hold on to while everyone else has to ditch everything!
{Sire of Insanity} is a possibility
I was also thinking of adding in {Master of Cruelties}... Which would force them into a difficult position. Do I block and lose a creature, putting me in a worse position against the other players; or do I just die the next time I draw?
I think itd be a fun little addition, do it!
{Mogis, God of Slaughter} is also very solid in this build, as it deals damage over time, just like Nekusar
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{Psychosis Crawler}
{Kederekt Parasite}
{Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind}
{Nicol Bolas}
{Mogis, God of Slaughter}
{Sire of Insanity}
{Nin, the Pain Artist}
{Jace's Archivist}
{Master of Cruelties}
{Windfall}
{Prosperity}
{Wheel of Fortune}
{Time Reversal}
{Time Spiral}
{Whispering Madness}
{Winds of Change}
{Howling Mine}
{Temple Bell}
{Forced Fruition}
{Underworld Dreams}
{Teferi's Puzzle Box}
{Bloodchief Ascension}
{Price of Knowledge}
{Spiteful Visions}
{Jace Beleren}
{Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded}
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker}
It's a start. Currently at 28 cards. I plan on running 41 lands, so that leaves us with 31 spots more to fill. Keep up the work guys!!!
Fix those brackets!
Quote from: Death, the Kid on April 02, 2014, 04:39:22 PM
Fix those brackets!
Oops... Didn't realize that would do that!!! I'll fix it in an hour or two...
I strongly, strongly recommend no Tibalt
Quote from: DylanW18 on April 02, 2014, 04:44:16 PM
I strongly, strongly recommend no Tibalt
Do are you crazy? A PW for 2 mana? Tibalt is so ridiculously OP it hurts.
Quote from: MisterJH on April 02, 2014, 04:54:47 PM
Quote from: DylanW18 on April 02, 2014, 04:44:16 PM
I strongly, strongly recommend no Tibalt
Do are you crazy? A PW for 2 mana? Tibalt is so ridiculously OP it hurts.
That better be sarcastic because he is easily the worst PW to ever be printed
;) the world may never know
ok, brackets fixed.
As for our 2CC planeswalker friend, his +1 allows me to dig, and his -4 will damage the opponent. And seriously, who's going to attack him? He is just.... so...... weak....
He does allow you to dig, but theres a solid chance youll discard something you need randomly. Unless you plan on running GY recursion tibalt really is not worth the risk, theres much better cards todig with
That being said i love tibalt :)
Quote from: rarehuntertay on April 02, 2014, 05:45:20 PM
ok, brackets fixed.
As for our 2CC planeswalker friend, his +1 allows me to dig, and his -4 will damage the opponent. And seriously, who's going to attack him? He is just.... so...... weak....
His +1 will always discard the card you want.... His -4 is so over costed for the ability... And his ult depends on how good your opponents moves have been... Which is crap
Quote from: DylanW18 on April 02, 2014, 05:52:02 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on April 02, 2014, 05:45:20 PM
ok, brackets fixed.
As for our 2CC planeswalker friend, his +1 allows me to dig, and his -4 will damage the opponent. And seriously, who's going to attack him? He is just.... so...... weak....
His +1 will always discard the card you want.... His -4 is so over costed for the ability... And his ult depends on how good your opponents moves have been... Which is crap
However, I have seen several decks run {Gamble} and his plus one is a weaker version of such. I will test him and find out. He might be fun to play just because of the "lol" factor.
tibalt is only useful if you {hive mind} a {enter the infinite} the -4
and i would add a {stuffy doll} to go with the artist of painto refill your hand when you need to
{Necromancy} makes {Kederekt} levitation a continuous and instant speed board clear that is infinitely repeatable
Quote from: rarehuntertay on April 02, 2014, 04:21:43 PM
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{Psychosis Crawler}
{Kederekt Parasite}
{Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind}
{Nicol Bolas}
{Mogis, God of Slaughter}
{Sire of Insanity}
{Nin, the Pain Artist}
{Jace's Archivist}
{Master of Cruelties}
{Windfall}
{Prosperity}
{Wheel of Fortune}
{Time Reversal}
{Time Spiral}
{Whispering Madness}
{Winds of Change}
{Howling Mine}
{Temple Bell}
{Forced Fruition}
{Underworld Dreams}
{Teferi's Puzzle Box}
{Bloodchief Ascension}
{Price of Knowledge}
{Spiteful Visions}
{Jace Beleren}
{Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded}
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker}
Thinking about adding the following:
{Wheel and Deal}
{Demonic Tutor}
{Mystical Tutor}
{Fact or Fiction}
{Lim-Dûl's Vault}
{Memory Jar}
{Reforge the Soul}
{Wheel of Fate}
That's 36 spells so far. Still thinking 41 lands. Is that too much? Leaves room for 23 more spells. Should I put in {Megrim}-type effects since everyone will be discarding a lot? Keep up the suggestions!!!
36-38 lands is usually best
Alright, after spending most of the day on it, I have my first draft of this deck. Tell me how it looks and any more suggestions!!
Commander of Death
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
Loyal Minions: 14
{Jace's Archivist}
{Sire of Insanity}
{Psychosis Crawler}*
{Kederekt Parasite}*
{Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind}*
{Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius}
{Dragon Mage}*
{Nicol Bolas}*
{Stormbreath Dragon}
{Lazav, Dimir Mastermind}
{Mogis, God of Slaughter}*
{Nin, the Pain Artist}*
{Master of Cruelties}*
{Massacre Wurm}*
Spells of Demise: 35
{Wheel of Fortune}*
{Time Reversal}
{Time Spiral}*
{Winds of Change}*
{Wheel and Deal}*
{Forced Fruition}*
{Reforge the Soul}*
{Wheel of Fate}*
{Prosperity}
{Windfall}
{Incendiary Command}
{Whispering Madness}
{Underworld Dreams}*
{Bloodchief Ascension}*
{Gratuitous Violence}*
{Spiteful Visions}
{Price of Knowledge}
{Megrim}*
{Liliana's Caress}*
{Demonic Tutor}*
{Mystical Tutor}*
{Vampiric Tutor}
{Lim-Dûl's Vault}*
{Fact or Fiction}
{Steam Augury}
{Arcane Denial}
{Spell Crumple}
{Desertion}*
{Dream Fracture}*
{Devastation Tide}
{Cyclonic Rift}*
{Evacuation}*
{Hive Mind}*
{Past in Flames}*
{Yawgmoth's Will}*
Stones of Power: 9
{Teferi's Puzzle Box}*
{Chromatic Lantern}
{Izzet Signet}*
{Rakdos Signet}*
{Dimir Signet}
{Temple Bell}
{Sol Ring}
{Howling Mine}*
{Memory Jar}*
Beings From Another Dimension: 3
{Chandra Ablaze}
{Jace Beleren}
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker}
The Death Lands: 38
{Watery Grave}
{Temple of Deceit}
{Drowned Catacomb}
{Halimar Depths}
{Temple of the False God}
{Opal Palace}
{Grixis Panorama}
{Crumbling Necropolis}
{Command Tower}
{Bojuka Bog}
{Island}
{Island}
{Island}
{Mountain}
{Mountain}
{Mountain}
{Swamp}
{Swamp}
{Swamp}
{Blood Crypt}*
{Creeping Tar Pit}*
{Darkwater Catacombs}*
{Dragonskull Summit}
{Reflecting Pool}*
{Shadowblood Ridge}*
{Shivan Reef}*
{Spinerock Knoll}*
{Steam Vents}*
{Sulfur Falls}*
{Sulfurous Springs}*
{Temple of Malice}*
{Underground River}*
{Maze of Ith}*
{Volrath's Stronghold}*
{Boseiju, Who Shelters All}*
{Mikokoro, Center of the Sea}*
{Strip Mine}*
{Reliquary Tower}*
Again, thanks to everyone with their prior suggestions!!!
* means I still need those
{anvil of bogardan}
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 05, 2014, 08:55:18 AM
{anvil of bogardan}
Hmmm... Interesting. I could cut on of the signets for it