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Title: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: Tthmax on March 31, 2014, 05:24:39 AM
Hey,

I 'm looking into some hatebears decks and found several {akroma, angel of fury} in them. It looked strange but has the morph part something to do with the etb ability of {flickerwisp} or {restoration angel}!
It seems incastible otherwise.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: Tthmax on March 31, 2014, 07:20:13 AM
Not {restoration angel} by further examination.
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: Remillo on March 31, 2014, 08:13:11 AM
Making a face-down (or transformed) creature leave the battlefield  will always return it Face Up.  So, you're completely right; those deck would probably plan to get it out there with Morph and then get it face up with Flickwisp or Restoration Angel.  And both of them work, too.  When Akroma is face down, she has no card types (and thus not an Angel) and doesn't have her protection abilities, making her legal targets for both Flicker creatures.
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: Tthmax on March 31, 2014, 09:43:06 AM
Wow, I overlooked that one.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on March 31, 2014, 09:49:40 AM
Flicker and morph. Hmmmmm....
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: Tthmax on March 31, 2014, 10:28:44 AM
Now I kept thinking. A morph creature's Cmc is zero. Is it viable with {æther vial} without a counter on it?
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: Giggle the Draco Genius on March 31, 2014, 11:01:20 AM
Casting as morph is an alternative cost to the normal version
the CMC of any card while in any zone is the one actually printed on the card.
exceptions to this are when on the battlefield it is the current face of the card, or if it has X it is 0 except on the stack where it is what you declared it to be.
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: Wally on March 31, 2014, 11:19:28 AM
 {Mistmeadow Witch} and  {Venser, the Sojourner} would both work quite well.

Oh and  {Conjurer's Closet}.
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: Tthmax on March 31, 2014, 01:16:52 PM
Okay,

Thanks, {conjurer's closet} is very cool. With {blade splicer}.
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on March 31, 2014, 02:45:17 PM
Better with  {Maul Splicer} ...
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 31, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
It's really bad with {Precurser golem}...
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on March 31, 2014, 05:29:03 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on March 31, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
It's really bad with {Precurser golem}...

Well I guess that depends on whether it's being targeted by a {lightning bolt} or a {giant growth} lol
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: rarehuntertay on March 31, 2014, 07:21:33 PM
Or  {Ranger's Guile}
Title: Re: Flickering morph creatures?
Post by: MisterJH on March 31, 2014, 07:24:04 PM
Precursor golem is a boss dont ever speak ill of him :(