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{Oloro, Ageless Agitator} 100 cards 1 {Oloro, Ageless Ascetic} ✨Judge Foil Commander 1 {Academy Ruins} ✨ Modern Masters 1 {Ancient Tomb} ✨ From the Vault: Realms 1 {Bojuka Bog} ✨ Worldwake 1 {Celestial Colonnade} ✨✒️Buy-a-Box Promo 1 {Command Tower} ✨ Judge Foil 1 {Creeping Tar Pit} ✨✒️ Worldwake 1 {Flagstones of Trokair} ✨ Time Spiral 1 {Flooded Strand} ✨ Khans of Tarkir 1 {Godless Shrine} ✨ Gatecrash 1 {Hallowed Fountain} ✨ Return to Ravnica 6 {Island} ✨ Zendikar (Full Art) 1 {Kor Haven} ✨ Nemesis 1 {Marsh Flats} ✨ Zendikar 1 {Maze of Ith} ✨ From the Vault: Realms 6 {Plains} ✨ Zendikar (Full Art) 1 {Polluted Delta} ✨ Khans of Tarkir 1 {Scrubland} 🚫 1 {Serra's Sanctum} 🚫 1 {Strip Mine} ✨ From the Vault: Exiled 4 {Swamp} ✨ Zendikar (Full Art) 1 {Tundra} 🚫 1 {Underground Sea} 🚫 1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} ✨✒️ From the Vault: Realms 1 {Watery Grave} ✨ Gatecrash 37 lands 1 {Erebos, God of the Dead} ✨ Theros 1 {Sun Titan} ✨✒️  Magic 2011 Prerelease 1 {Thassa, God of the Sea} ✨ Theros 3 creatures 1 {Azorius Signet} ✨ Dissension 1 {Chromatic Lantern} ✨✒️🇯🇵 Return to Ravnica 1 {Coalition Relic} ✨ Future Sight 1 {Crucible of Worlds} ✨ Judge Foil 1 {Cursed Totem} 🚫 1 {Dimir Signet} ✨ Ravnica: City of Guilds 1 {Mana Vault} 🚫✒️ 1 {Nihil Spellbomb} ✨ Scars of Mirrodin 1 {Orzhov Signet} ✨ Guildpact 1 {Sensei's Divining Top} ✨ From the Vault: Exiled 1 {Sol Ring} ✨✒️ Judge Foil 1 {Talisman of Dominance} ✨ Mirrodin 1 {Talisman of Progress} ✨ Mirrodin 1 {Torpor Orb} ✨ New Phyrexia 1 {Trading Post} ✨ Magic 2013 15 artifacts 1 {Aura of Silence} ✨ Friday Night Magic 1 {Bitterblossom} ✨✒️ Morningtide 1 {Ghostly Prison} ✨ Friday Night Magic 1 {Humility} 🚫 1 {In the Eye of Chaos} 🚫 1 {Karmic Justice} ✨ Odyssey 1 {Land Equilibrium} 🚫 1 {Land Tax} ✨ Judge Foil 1 {Leyline of the Void} ✨ ✒️Magic 2011 1 {Mana Vortex} 🚫✒️ 1 {Moat} 🚫 1 {Mystic Remora} 🚫✒️ 1 {Nether Void} 🚫 1 {Overburden} ✨ Prophecy 1 {Painful Quandary} ✨ Scars of Mirrodin 1 {Phyrexian Arena} ✨ 9th Edition 1 {Propaganda} 🚫✒️ 1 {Rhystic Study} ✨ Commander's Arsenal 1 {Seal of Cleansing} ✨ Friday Night Magic 1 {Sphere of Safety} ✨ Return to Ravnica 1 {Tainted Æther} ✨ Seventh Edition 1 {Vile Consumption} ✨ Invasion 22 enchantments 1 {Elspeth, Knight-Errant} ✨ Duel Deck Series 1 {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} ✨ From the Vault: Twenty 1 {Liliana of the Veil} ✨✒️ Innistrad 1 {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} ✨ Duel Deck Series 1 {Tezzeret the Seeker} ✨ Duel Deck Series 5 planeswalkers 1 {Armageddon} ✨✒️ From the Vault: Annihilation 1 {Cataclysm} ✨ From the Vault: Annihilation ✒️ 1 {Catastrophe} 🚫✒️ 1 {Cyclonic Rift} ✨✒️🇯🇵 Return to Ravnica 1 {Demonic Tutor} ✨✒️ Judge Foil 1 {Enlightened Tutor} ✨ Arena Foil 1 {Ill-Gotten Gains} ✨ Conspiracy 1 {Lim-Dûl's Vault} 🚫 1 {Merciless Eviction} ✨ Gatecrash 1 {Path to Exile} ✨ WPN Foil 1 {Replenish} ✨ Urza's Destiny 1 {Swords to Plowshares} ✨ From the Vault: Twenty 1 {Terminus} ✨ From the Vault: Annihilation 1 {Utter End} ✨ Khans of Tarkir Game Day Extended Art 1 {Vampiric Tutor} 1 {Vindicate} ✨ Judge Foil 2013 1 {Wrath of God} ✨✒️ Player Rewards 17 other spells ✨ Denotes Foil 🚫 Denotes No Foil Version ✒️ Denotes Signed 🎨 Denotes Altered 📝 Deck Tech (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?topic=35948.msg348460#msg348460) ⚠️ Updates and Revisions (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?topic=35948.msg399258#msg399258) Storage: KMC Perfect Fits, KMC Hyper MAT (White). Leifkicker Skull Themed Deck Box (https://img0.etsystatic.com/036/0/6554616/il_570xN.505683622_mrr7.jpg)

Before getting too far into this, this is heavily borrowed from StyxOfTolaria deck on MTGSalvation (http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/216529-dromar-the-banisher-esper-stax-soon-to-be-oloro) with some more recent changes.

Oloro,Ageless Ascetic (Stax)
The Stax archetype is the fun killer archetype of Commander. Its goal is simple: make it impossible to be swung at, and grind your opponents into a lengthy battle of attrition. This deck is not for the thin-skinned or weak willed, you will be hated for running it. Unless you are in a very mature meta that enjoy playing very difficult, high level decks; I don't recommend this. The point of Commander is to have fun, and this can turn you into an archenemy where you find yourself battling the entire table, picking your cards up off the ground and/or having everyone drop after the first wipe. In a more mature setting Stax decks actually make opponents have to think about their moves, plan around yours and build more meta decks to combat it with. This deck is very difficult to pilot and requires some really timely decision making and accurate analysis of board-states. The reward of playing Stax will be finding yourself having a large edge above other popular strategies. It pacifies Voltron decks with pillowforts. Renders Combo decks and their greedy manabase ineffective with land destruction, tax effects. It taxes Swarm/Token decks to near uselessness. It even has something in store for Reanimator, graveyard hate and some exile spells. Without much more, lets jump into the cards and what their use is.

Stax & Tax
• {Aura of Silence}
The card is pretty self-explanatory. Its a powerhouse in the Tax department. It is reusable artifact/enchantment removal with {Sun Titan}, it makes {Sol Ring} and opponent mana rocks much less useful. A+

• {Cursed Totem}
What is there not to like about this? It locks out any creature based combos, like the ones employed by {Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker} or {Deadeye Navigator}. Aggressively cost and pretty much stays relevant throughout the game.

• {Humility}
This + {Night of Souls' Betrayal} = No creatures on the field, permanently. The ultimate board lockdown.This is more or less when opponents begin to consider scooping or berating you.

• {In the Eye of Chaos}
Whenever a player casts an instant spell, counter it unless that player pays X, where X is its converted mana cost. Basically you've gotta pay twice if you want that counterspell to connect. The amount of Instants in this deck is pretty low (7), and of those spells they don't cost all much anyway, and runs no counters itself. The only drawback is it will be destroyed by {Nethervoid} (World Enchantment rule). If you ask me - that's a good problem to have.

• {Land Equilibrium}
With enough manarocks on the battlefield, and no lands of your own, this is another soft lock. Opponents are basically just holding onto cards they can't play.

• {Mana Vortex}
Aggressive cost land destroyer. Its usefulness is evident, its frustration is unparalleled, its the perfect kind of card for this deck. It comes in early, sets opponents back greatly, and works with {Sun Titan}.

• {Nether Void}
The most devastating card in the entire deck probably is {Nether Void}. Whenever a simple {Naturalize} costs 5 mana, removing {Nether Void} can be a daunting challenge. Its essentially game over if you manage to {Armageddon}.  It even slows down Planeswalkers, traditionally a weakness of Stax decks. The card is very expensive, but if you truly enjoy playing with supremely powerful cards, and are looking for an investment that is unlikely to EVER lose any value (it is on the reserve list, never to be reprinted in paper again). It is a backbreaking card to hit the field, and it changes the dynamics pretty much instantly.

• {Night of Souls' Betrayal}
Night is a small pillowfort effect in that it lessens the amount of damage taken overall, sometimes enough to deter attackers. Night is a part of locking creatures out of the game completely when combined with {Humility}. Gone are the days of you losing life through combat damage! Even without {Humility}, the effect that Night grants, a universal -1/-1 to all creatures, can pick off utility and small token creatures all game long.

• {Painful Quandary}
This holds up the ol' "KILL THAT GUY" neon flashing sign up. It also makes my opponents have to think about everything they're doing or risk discarding answers. It puts them in a horrible bind, and puts me in a place I'm comfortable being. Every spell they cast is a 2-for-1 or {Lava Axe}. I like my chances of winning those games where this sticks.

• {Overburden}
One of the great early pressure cards in this deck. If it comes down it pressures creature decks to calculate more carefully. If it comes down late it sort of whiffs. But part of the subtly of this deck is that it provides more threats for my opponents then similar control decks. I don't run counters, because I find that counters only provide temporary solutions to bigger problems, but if I keep pushing out problems then they'll run out of answers. In multiplayer, answers are limited, but threats can be forever. I would prefer my opponents go 1-for-1 with my threats then the other way around. {Overburden} is one of those threats and a real great early card that punishes creature based decks.
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• {Tainted Æther}
Extremely good in a creatureless build and naturally works with {Overburden}. I really like this card, not thrilled by the double Black cost, sometimes you cannot have it all.

• {Torpor Orb}
The worst card to see hit the battlefield for a creature heavy deck. Over the past few years, Wizards has unleashed a torrent of powerful Enter the Battlefield creatures. Hell, I even built a whole deck around the concept (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?topic=39216.0)! One stop answer to anything that can effect you under certain boardstates. Recommended tutor target if you're not too sure who you'll be facing.

Pillowfort
• {Ghostly Prison}
• {Propaganda}
Identical cards that become even better when together. The peanut butter and jelly of the deck. Both get recursion with {Sun Titan} and {Replenish}. The main goal in a pillowfort deck is to get people to stop attacking you, or slow them down. These cards do both.

• {Karmic Justice}
The Magic equivalent of bringing a gun to a knife fight. You destroy my artifact? I destroy your planeswalker/land/ect. Makes people really think twice about destroying any non-creatures of yours huh? It wants to punish {Aura Shards}.

• {Moat}
I have one from years ago, so I threw it into this build. Probably not nearly worth buying one unless you've already got it, or enjoy collecting. {Magus of the Moat} is a more suitable budget alternative. It is a very powerful card, but not worth $400+

• {Sphere of Safety}
I'm running 24 total Enchantments. Odds are pretty good that I'll have a few in play when this drops. It's an evolving {Propaganda}/{Ghostly Prison} that protects my Planeswalkers also. I'm going to move on past explaining this obvious inclusion.

Drawing
• {Erebos, God of the Dead}
A cheap, indestructible draw engine who's activation cost is offset by Oloro in the command zone. He can even swing in for some damage and has a little bonus of shutting off other life gain decks.

• {Jace, the Mind Sculptor}
The most powerful Planeswalker ever still manages to find his way into any deck playing blue. You'd be silly not to include him, unless of course you cannot afford it. Part of the subtle beauty of this format is you only need 1.

• {Lim-Dûl's Vault}
Card requires some explaining:
Step 1: Look at the top five cards of your library.
Step 2: If you like them, proceed to step 3a. If you don't like them, proceed to step 3b.
Step 3a: Shuffle the rest of your library, then put those five cards back on top of your library in the order you want. The spell has finished resolving.
Step 3b: Put those five cards on the bottom of your library in the order you want. Pay 1 life. Return to step 1

How would you like to sculpt your next 5 turns, or look through your whole deck for 2 mana and a couple of life? Cards like Oloro make running {Lim-Dûl's Vault} a no brainer. I'm pretty surprised how few decks run this.

• {Mystic Remora}
Quick way to draw a few cards. Cumulative upkeep does suck, but you only really need to make it around the table 2 or 3 times before letting it die. It's super cheap at 1 CMC, so it's worth it. {4} tax is HUGE for opponents, even late in the game. It's impossible to justify paying for it early, which makes this card perhaps better then {Rhystic Study}, I'd even be so bold as suggesting its "strictly" better, but it doesn't pop on creatures. :(

• {Phyrexian Arena}
Arguably better then {Dark Confidant}. It's in mostly every single deck running black. It's fun drawing cards, and this does it.

• {Rhystic Study}
Adds insult to injury most often. With high powered resource denile strategies like Stax, it's difficult to justify spending mana to stop you from drawing a card. It's a great enchantment and never outlives it's usefulness.

• {Sensei's Divining Top}
Top has been discussed ad nauseam. It's a benefittial card and worth including into almost any deck. It's likely the single most powerful draw engine for any color. 

• {Thassa, God of the Sea}
Thassa is an interesting include. The powerful scry ability every turn is amazing at getting you out of being flooded, finding answers and others. It can also deal some damage, has a low cost and amazingly gets recursion with {Sun Titan} and {Replenish}. Dodges {Aura Shards} also.

Recursion
• {Crucible of Worlds}
Any deck that focuses on land destruction ought to have a way to play their lands again. Crucible does some great stuff by bringing back {Strip Mine}, manlands or {Flagstones of Trokair}.

• {Ill-Gotten Gains}
Allows a fast recovery after a board wipe. The symmetrical hand discard combined with {Leyline of the Void} is just silly. My opponents do get back 3 cards under normal circumstances, but it's unlikely they'll have anything as cool as {Replenish} in their hand.

• {Replenish}
Return all of my useful cards back onto the battlefield for 4 mana? Where do I sign up? It's usefullness has weaved it's way through a lot of my card write ups. It's only ever not useful when you've got too many good cards already on the battlefield.

• {Sun Titan}
The Titan is a one stop shop for mostly every card in my deck. He's a {Crucible of Worlds} stapled to a mini-{Replenish} inside of a 6/6 body. He hits a whopping 66 cards in this deck (67% of the deck, not including Oloro and Himself).

Token Generators
• {Bitterblossom}
The 1 life lost is a wash because of Oloro. It sets up an extremely early board state that could allow you to outright win. Originally this card was included as a perfect compliment to {Smokestack}. You'd just sack one of your new faeries. This list no longer uses {Smokestack}, so if you cannot afford a {Bitterblossom} - it's easy enough to get rid of.

• {Elspeth, Knight-Errant}
Every single one of Elspeth's abilities are useful. Every single one. It cannot be overstated how AWESOME she is for this or any deck. She can make blockers, make those tokens stronger and her ultimate? It might as well just say "this is for stax decks". Get one ASAP. I have not included {Elspeth, Sun's Champion} because of her high converted mana cost, the 3 tokens would make sense if I were running {Smokestack}, the -1 ability is super cool and worth a look, but overall isn't as useful.

• {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad}
If Elspeth was the #1 Planeswalker for Stax decks, Sorin is #1b. The tokens are better then Elspeth, because the lifelink is relevant to regain some lost life from various sources. The emblem? Bonkers. It makes you creatures powerful enough to attack through {Humility}. Only thing keeping him from a perfect score is his ultimate, doesn't do all that much.

• {Trading Post}
It is the Commander equivalent to a Swiss-Army Knife. It's just useful for many situations, and can get you out of plenty tough spots. {Tezzeret the Seeker} can toggle this bad boy pretty well!

Spot/Mass Removal
• {Armageddon}
No deck can truly call themselves Stax without copious amounts of land destruction. Land destruction is one of the most frustrating parts of playing Magic the Gathering. Since mana is a resource, having that all taken away from you results in plenty of hurt butts. This deck sets up a ton of Mana rocks to survive Armageddon and continue to play spells. A bit of strategy I like to employ is using Armageddon as early as turn 4. The reason is, most opponents keep and sculpt their hands around curving, so they're more apt to take a 3-lander while holding some high CMC cards in hopes of hitting their land drops until they can play them. Destroying all of those lands before they can curve out is a gigantic tempo play, the kind some decks may never recover from.

• {Cataclysm}
This is a more symmetrical {Armageddon} that certainly has it's advantages are some of the following
1) It asks you to sacrifice those permanents. Which gets around indestructibility.
2) You do not keep your precious planeswalker. Which is invaluable for a deck that is weak against Planeswalkers.
3) My enchantments are better then yours. Just ask your girlfriend :P
4) Tempo. Another {Armageddon}

• {Catastrophe}
Hybrid of the two original sweepers from Alpha: {Wrath of God} and {Armageddon}. Modal spells are powerful in Commander because they provide options. Creatures destroyed this way can't be regenerated is relevant sometimes also. It is a worthy inclusion.

• {Liliana of the Veil}
Lilly is pushed hard toward Stax players because she acts as a resource denial machine. The +1 is symmetrical, the -2 is deadly because they sacrifice (getting around Hexproof and Indestrucible) and the -6 is quite achievable. The ultimate is powerful, because you can separate the creatures into lands/permanents and creatures. Based on which pile they take you can cast {Armageddon} for their lands keep or {Wrath of God} for the creature keep. Pretty dirty move.

• {Path to Exile}
Exiling is strong in this format. Cheap efficient removal is strong in every format. Path gives up a slight bit of tempo, but it gains you some back if you want to use it on your own tokens to get a land. Exiling an opponents General is especially strong since they now have to pay the tax on it.

• {Seal of Cleansing}
Seal deals with troublesome enchantments and artifacts in a similar way to {Aura of Silence}. {Sun Titan} also provides recursion for this,

• {Swords to Plowshares}
Probably the best removal spell ever printed. It exiles, it's cheap, it's instant speed and you can use it on your own token if you fall behind.

• {Utter End}🆕
One of the best cards against this deck is {Aura Shards}, which must be dealt with accordingly. As stated previously, Exiling is super powerful and important in this format, since recursion is such a common theme. This deck also runs few Planeswalker answers, since it runs so few creatures. A great way to deal with indestructible non-land permanents and planeswalkers is exile

• {Vindicate}
Quite possible one of the best cards printed for this format that isn't banned (yet). For a mere 3 mana you get to hit ANYTHING (creature, enchantment, artifact, land, or planeswalker). Worth splashing black in your white deck and vice versa just to access this one card. The Sorcery speed is hardly a drawback considering you get a {Heroes Downfall} that can blow up {Gaea's Cradle} if you haven't hit your {Strip Mine} yet. This deck is weak to planeswalkers because it runs so few creatures, {Vindicate} lets you deal with them without having to go deep. Also, Planeswalkers are opponents problems too, don't let them fool you!

Mana Rocks
  {Azorius Signet}, {Chromatic Lantern}, {Coalition Relic}, {Dimir Signet}, {Mana Vault}, {Orzhov Signet}, {Sol Ring}, {Talisman of Dominance}, {Talisman of Progress}

Board sweepers
  {Catastrophe}, {Cyclonic Rift}, {Merciless Eviction}, {Terminus}, {Wrath of God}

Tutors
  {Demonic Tutor}, {Enlightened Tutor}, {Land Tax}, {Tezzeret the Seeker}, {Vampiric Tutor}

Graveyard Hate
  {Bojuka Bog} {Leyline of the Void}, {Nihil Spellbomb}

Top 5
5. {Nether Void}
4. {Replenish}
3. {Land Equilibrium}
2. {Cataclysm}
1. {Oloro, Ageless Ascetic}

Updates and Revisions
➖{Gideon Jura} ➕{Painful Quandary}
Gideon is a win condition, and I will probably regret losing him. He's on the short list to jump back in if {Painful Quandary} proves to make me too much of a target.

➖{Dark Confidant} ➕{Overburden}
I love card advantage as much as the next person. I want to experiment with other cards, and he's usually always killed or hurts me fairly badly. So I'm testing without him. I'm also running {Erebos, God of the Dead}, who draws me cards and can swing in for damage. {Spreading Plague} makes Dark Confidant disposable.

➖{Nihil Spellbomb} ➕{Bojuka Bog}
I am adding 2 black cards. Might as well add another black source that is uncounterable graveyard hate. I am running {Leyline of the Void}, {Tormod's Crypt} and now {Bojuka Bog}. That makes Nihil redundant. I also have {Crucible of Worlds}

➖{No Mercy} ➕{Spreading Plague}
Spreading Plague is so damn cool. I'm worried about it being over 4 mana, because those types of spells are difficult to cast if I haven't yet put out all of my mana rocks. But it is more splashible then No Mercy and I am having a REALLY tough go at finding stuff to cut. They're all my little foily babies :(

9/20/14
➖{Return to Dust} ➕{Utter End}
I lose the potential 2 for 1 to gain an edge against Planeswalkers and creatures. The exile with no downside is so clutch because it gets around indestructibility. It misses lands, unlike {Vindicate} it does cost 8 with {In the Eye of Chaos}, but so did {Return to Dust}.

10/4/14
➖{Tormod's Crypt} ➕{Nihil Spellbomb}
Spellbomb lets me draw a card if my opponents aren't playing with their graveyards. Cost is higher, but I can cycle it.

10/28/14
➖{Night of Souls' Betrayal} ➕{Vile Consumption}
Little experiment in seeing which is more useful, taxing creatures or giving them -1/-1. With {Humility} on board Night is clearly better, but if the combo isn't assembled then its not quite as good as Vile.

11/12/14
➖{Spreading Plague} ➕{Tainted Æther}
Tainted Æther just kind of naturally combos with {Overburden} better. Spreading Plague may be more of a political card, almost like a group hug gift to the table to wipe out enemies by prozy. I just prefer the lower cost (but double black, yuck)

Playtesting
{Council's Judgment}
{Dark Confidant}
{Gideon Jura}
{Greater Auramancy}
{Heliod, God of the Sun}
{Night of Soul's Betrayal}
{No Mercy}
{Spreading Plague}
{Skullclamp}
{Tormod's Crypt}

I like {Spreading Plague}, but I think {No Mercy} still deserves a spot here.

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on August 15, 2014, 10:54:14 PM
I like {Spreading Plague}, but I think {No Mercy} still deserves a spot here.

I agree, but what should I cut? It's a hard decision. I like all of my Pillowfort effects, they're all equally valuable to me. I might just cut my newly added {Overburden}...

What's the price tag on this deck?  Or do I even want to know...

Quote from: Anoobass on August 16, 2014, 12:51:29 AM
What's the price tag on this deck?  Or do I even want to know...

I don't have iMtG anymore, so I dunno what the app says it's worth. My best estimate: A couple thousand? It's probably doubled since I put it together. I know what I paid for {Underground Sea}, and that is up triple. Even {Liliana of the Veil} is double what I paid. Stupid little things like {Mystic Gate} are about 7x what I paid for it. Ect. ect. But yeah, conservative estimate about $3000.

Quote from: Dudecore on August 16, 2014, 01:18:47 AM

Quote from: Anoobass on August 16, 2014, 12:51:29 AM
What's the price tag on this deck?  Or do I even want to know...

I don't have iMtG anymore, so I dunno what the app says it's worth. My best estimate: A couple thousand? It's probably doubled since I put it together. I know what I paid for {Underground Sea}, and that is up triple. Even {Liliana of the Veil} is double what I paid. Stupid little things like {Mystic Gate} are about 7x what I paid for it. Ect. ect. But yeah, conservative estimate about $3000.

Please get these sleeves.

http://www.abugames.com/item211358-new/0/70-magic/Sleeves---ABU---My-Deck-Costs-More-Than-Your-Car-(80ct).html

That's pretty funny. I don't like flaunting the deck like that. Some of the more mature guys like seeing the cards and the commitment. Some younger people think it's paying to win (which it doesn't always). Magic is different things to different people, I like playing powerful cards, and I enjoy seeing rare and strong cards. I enjoy seeing misprintx alters and anything unusual. The other haters can hate.

I just think that after u get into the $k's those sleeves are pretty funny.

Finished my deck tech finally while watching 2014 World Magic Cup Qualifier stream. Suggestions and constructive criticism are always welcome.

Maybe when I'm completely finished, that wouldn't be a bad idea. :)

Pictures came out pretty bad. No real good ways for me to photograph them and have them appear foil. :(
Oloro Part 1 (http://i1317.photobucket.com/albums/t625/Dudecore2012/4e3da620-9b2c-4561-9c83-85bffee8d4e3_zps8d1a235d.png)
Oloro Part 2 (http://i1317.photobucket.com/albums/t625/Dudecore2012/be6d3599-f4e8-4650-a89d-cf157dceaf24_zpse92cc5dc.png)

So pimp. Lol but thts awesome.

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on August 25, 2014, 08:45:03 PM
So pimp. Lol but thts awesome.

Thank you.

Quote from: Taysby on August 25, 2014, 12:50:19 AM
Do you think the FTV foiling is better this time around?

It's the same foil it's been for every From the Vault, no? I can't tell the difference. That {Cataclysm} was totally worth it though.They kind of curled the second I took them out of the wrapper, which I will be sending Wizards a nasty email about shortly.

I'm rethinking my Mana rocks, bear with me. I have a bit of a crisis with my less obvious multi color artifact. These are the options.

{Fellwar Stone}
Pros: I can cast this off {Sol Ring} or {Ancient Tomb}. Which is very helpful to have a low mana cost. It also comes in untapped, and I've never had it not produce at least 2 colors I could use (I guess it could happen theoretically)
Cons: in my ideal boardstate, one where opponents have no lands, it does not tap for mana. Not even colorless.


{Darksteel Ingot}
Pros: Dat indestructible doe. While not super valuable is nice if I use {Tezzeret the Seeker}s ultimate.
Cons: 3 CMC is pushing it to the limit. I have to crack multiple rocks for it. I also feel like "we'll if I'm going to pay 3...isn't {Coalition Relic} better?" Which brings me to....

{Coalition Relic}
Pros: Mana ramp which I have to use awkwardly on my precombat main phase. I like doing things a turn earlier.
Cons: 3 CMC still, isn't indestructible. Just a strictly better {Manalith}

I'm a fan of  {Coalition Relic}, myself. If you can only fit one mana rock, that's my recommendation.

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my new babyyyyy

{collective restraint} would be good in this

Have you thought about {Grand Arbiter Augustin IV}? Seems like he might be good. I have no idea what you would take out for him though.

Quote from: cltrn81 on September 03, 2014, 02:17:23 PM
{collective restraint} would be good in this

It's a more expensive {Propaganda}. I can't imagine what I would cut for it.

Quote from: LordJanova on September 03, 2014, 02:35:26 PM
Have you thought about {Grand Arbiter Augustin IV}? Seems like he might be good. I have no idea what you would take out for him though.

I'm gearing toward going creatureless. He is good, cheap and I like the effect. I am thinking about {Tainted Æther} instead of {Sun Titan}, just going completely creatureless (Besides the Theros Gods, because they're sort of immune to all the creature punishing strategies)

Congratulations, Dudecore. You officially convinced me not to build a foiled out damia combo deck, but instead build a foiled out oloro stax deck. I like games lasting longer than four turns anyways :P

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 07:30:50 PM
Congratulations, Dudecore. You officially convinced me not to build a foiled out damia combo deck, but instead build a foiled out oloro stax deck. I like games lasting longer than four turns anyways :P

This deck has just about my favorite cards ever printed. So I wanted them in foil. It's also an investment, as foils usually always hold value through reprints. That being said, playing Magic is the most expensive it has ever been. The {Demonic Tutor} Judge Foil was $40 about 2 years ago. You don't want to know what I paid for it -.-

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 07:41:30 PM

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 07:30:50 PM
Congratulations, Dudecore. You officially convinced me not to build a foiled out damia combo deck, but instead build a foiled out oloro stax deck. I like games lasting longer than four turns anyways :P

This deck has just about my favorite cards ever printed. So I wanted them in foil. It's also an investment, as foils usually always hold value through reprints. That being said, playing Magic is the most expensive it has ever been. The {Demonic Tutor} Judge Foil was $40 about 2 years ago. You don't want to know what I paid for it -.-

$200?

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 07:53:42 PM

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 07:41:30 PM

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 07:30:50 PM
Congratulations, Dudecore. You officially convinced me not to build a foiled out damia combo deck, but instead build a foiled out oloro stax deck. I like games lasting longer than four turns anyways :P

This deck has just about my favorite cards ever printed. So I wanted them in foil. It's also an investment, as foils usually always hold value through reprints. That being said, playing Magic is the most expensive it has ever been. The {Demonic Tutor} Judge Foil was $40 about 2 years ago. You don't want to know what I paid for it -.-

$200?

A wee bit less. But yeah, nearly 5x what it was worth 2 years ago. Craziness.

{Return to Dust} has to change to Utter End (http://mythicspoiler.com/ktk/cards/utterend.jpg) right? I lose the 2 for 1; I gain planeswalkers and creatures.

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 07:56:41 PM

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 07:53:42 PM

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 07:41:30 PM

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 07:30:50 PM
Congratulations, Dudecore. You officially convinced me not to build a foiled out damia combo deck, but instead build a foiled out oloro stax deck. I like games lasting longer than four turns anyways :P

This deck has just about my favorite cards ever printed. So I wanted them in foil. It's also an investment, as foils usually always hold value through reprints. That being said, playing Magic is the most expensive it has ever been. The {Demonic Tutor} Judge Foil was $40 about 2 years ago. You don't want to know what I paid for it -.-

$200?

A wee bit less. But yeah, nearly 5x what it was worth 2 years ago. Craziness.

{Return to Dust} has to change to Utter End (http://mythicspoiler.com/ktk/cards/utterend.jpg) right? I lose the 2 for 1; I gain planeswalkers and creatures.

Yuuuup.

Any tips on what to hunt down first? I am gonna build this after I finish my modern deck.

You're going to build my list? My suggestions are get the cheap stuff first. Prices rise every day and the market can be volatile. Some "cheap" foils can be EDH staples the next day. If not, they're cheap.

Reserve list stuff will never be printed again, there is no good time to track it down. You can actually afford to do some auctions on eBay. You're not in any sort of rush. I'd say 90% of the time you'll be good bidding up to the cheapest Buy It Now price, and get it cheaper.

I also got a number of things from Grand Prix and Pro Tours. The ChannelFireball booth and Star City Games booths can be convinced that their cards might not be in ideal condition, you can haggle with them in person. :P

I've got near mint cards from a vendor at a Magic event by haggling. I remember the arena foil {Enlightened Tutor} I got at GP Richmond for $25 (when it was marked at $50) because it was in a dirty sleeve and I said something about that.

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 08:21:33 PM
You're going to build my list? My suggestions are get the cheap stuff first. Prices rise every day and the market can be volatile. Some "cheap" foils can be EDH staples the next day. If not, they're cheap.

Reserve list stuff will never be printed again, there is no good time to track it down. You can actually afford to do some auctions on eBay. You're not in any sort of rush. I'd say 90% of the time you'll be good bidding up to the cheapest Buy It Now price, and get it cheaper.

I also got a number of things from Grand Prix and Pro Tours. The ChannelFireball booth and Star City Games booths can be convinced that their cards might not be in ideal condition, you can haggle with them in person. :P

I'll wait on the big stuff till GP San Jose then....

Now, to find some IMTG friends to hang with me at the GP...

Well the vendors at the events know the markups I presume, and like most good salesmen - aren't going to let you leave over a couple of bucks. Some event staples I'm sure they're more hard line with. Older cards - like the {Serra's Sanctum} I got at the same event - are below eBay price.

Maybe if you go to a trade show or something like that. Pretty much anywhere you don't have to pay retail

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 08:33:22 PM
Well the vendors at the events know the markups I presume, and like most good salesmen - aren't going to let you leave over a couple of bucks. Some event staples I'm sure they're more hard line with. Older cards - like the {Serra's Sanctum} I got at the same event - are below eBay price.

Maybe if you go to a trade show or something like that. Pretty much anywhere you don't have to pay retail

Where would I find a list of magic trade shows? Do they even exist? :P
Ill keep my eyes peeled for SCG opens and such.

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 08:36:08 PM

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 08:33:22 PM
Well the vendors at the events know the markups I presume, and like most good salesmen - aren't going to let you leave over a couple of bucks. Some event staples I'm sure they're more hard line with. Older cards - like the {Serra's Sanctum} I got at the same event - are below eBay price.

Maybe if you go to a trade show or something like that. Pretty much anywhere you don't have to pay retail

Where would I find a list of magic trade shows? Do they even exist? :P
Ill keep my eyes peeled for SCG opens and such.

Well there is some kind of comic convention every weekend it seems. Channel Fireball has a retail store in Santa Clara. You can haggle with them at the game store. I normally don't at my LGS, because he orders me stuff and sells it MSRP - I don't want to piss off that hookup :)

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 08:42:00 PM

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 08:36:08 PM

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 08:33:22 PM
Well the vendors at the events know the markups I presume, and like most good salesmen - aren't going to let you leave over a couple of bucks. Some event staples I'm sure they're more hard line with. Older cards - like the {Serra's Sanctum} I got at the same event - are below eBay price.

Maybe if you go to a trade show or something like that. Pretty much anywhere you don't have to pay retail

Where would I find a list of magic trade shows? Do they even exist? :P
Ill keep my eyes peeled for SCG opens and such.

Well there is some kind of comic convention every weekend it seems. Channel Fireball has a retail store in Santa Clara. You can haggle with them at the game store. I normally don't at my LGS, because he orders me stuff and sells it MSRP - I don't want to piss off that hookup :)

Selling stuff at actual MSRP? You gotta tell me where this place is :P

It's in Virginia. He sells every thing at MSRP. Duel decks, From the Vault ect. He and I get along well, and since I'm a collector he let's me preorder stuff.

Got my hands on a foil promo {Utter End}. So {Return to Dust} is out for now. I seriously don't like the artwork on the Game Day Top 8 {Utter End}, but I might have to get it just because.

Have you considered running {lethal vapors}??

I know it can be easily destroyed by one of your opponents, but I've noticed in my time with {temporal extortion} that no one ever wants to be the one to take the fall. Even when it is very advantageous to do so.

Seems like a creatureless deck would really love this card :p

Quote from: Gocougs509 on September 24, 2014, 10:50:43 PM
Have you considered running {lethal vapors}??

I know it can be easily destroyed by one of your opponents, but I've noticed in my time with {temporal extortion} that no one ever wants to be the one to take the fall. Even when it is very advantageous to do so.

Seems like a creatureless deck would really love this card :p

I don't know dudecore's meta very well but it seems really bad in any game with an aggro deck. It basically reads; 2BB skip your next turn

Quote from: Hexproof_is_the_best on September 24, 2014, 10:56:02 PM

Quote from: Gocougs509 on September 24, 2014, 10:50:43 PM
Have you considered running {lethal vapors}??

I know it can be easily destroyed by one of your opponents, but I've noticed in my time with {temporal extortion} that no one ever wants to be the one to take the fall. Even when it is very advantageous to do so.

Seems like a creatureless deck would really love this card :p

I don't know dudecore's meta very well but it seems really bad in any game with an aggro deck. It basically reads; 2BB skip your next turn

The player who activates it (probably not you) is the one who skips their turn. The "you" is the activator of the ability, which according to the card can be anyone.

Quote from: E.kann1 on September 24, 2014, 11:02:10 PM

Quote from: Hexproof_is_the_best on September 24, 2014, 10:56:02 PM

Quote from: Gocougs509 on September 24, 2014, 10:50:43 PM
Have you considered running {lethal vapors}??

I know it can be easily destroyed by one of your opponents, but I've noticed in my time with {temporal extortion} that no one ever wants to be the one to take the fall. Even when it is very advantageous to do so.

Seems like a creatureless deck would really love this card :p

I don't know dudecore's meta very well but it seems really bad in any game with an aggro deck. It basically reads; 2BB skip your next turn

The player who activates it (probably not you) is the one who skips their turn. The "you" is the activator of the ability, which according to the card can be anyone.

Is it not its controller?

That's the hitch. The opponent who pays for it loses their turn. I think it is a bit costly, I prefer {Tainted Æther} or {Spreading Plague} if I'm spending the mana. Although if you play {Pithing Needle} naming {Lethal Vapors} no one can activate the ability.:P

Quote from: Dudecore on September 24, 2014, 11:06:03 PM
That's the hitch. The opponent who pays for it loses their turn. I think it is a bit costly, I prefer {Tainted Æther} or {Spreading Plague} if I'm spending the mana. Although if you play {Pithing Needle} naming {Lethal Vapors} no one can activate the ability.:P

1. Awesome synergy with pitching needle, that didn't occur to me.

2. Thanks for clarifying, sometimes "you" gets confusing in magic talk.

To go deeper, if you're in a game state you cannot lose, let's say {Platinum Angel} is indestructible and Hexproof, you can active {Lethal Vapors} 100 times, skip 100 turns and deck your opponent.

It's a cool card, I just prefer others :)

Quote from: Dudecore on September 24, 2014, 11:17:44 PM
To go deeper, if you're in a game state you cannot lose, let's say {Platinum Angel} is indestructible and Hexproof, you can active {Lethal Vapors} 100 times, skip 100 turns and deck your opponent.

It's a cool card, I just prefer others :)

That's awesome I love combos like that. And yea I would agree the vapors don't seem great but maybe try them in your meta and see how it works out. Worst case scenario you're down 50 cents and up a lethal vapors

I keep talking myself into {Heliod, God of the Sun} and then talk myself right out of it. I love Token Generators in a Stax deck, the tokens are expensive but do juice {Sphere of Safety}. I also really like Indestrucible creatures because of {Spreading Plague}. But he's expensive, fairly difficult to get Devotion, Vigilance is nice but I wouldnt pay extra for it.

Basically I want to know if anyone runs, what is his utility range and do you think it has a place in this deck?

Quote from: Dudecore on October 02, 2014, 11:18:49 PM
I keep talking myself into {Heliod, God of the Sun} and then talk myself right out of it. I love Token Generators in a Stax deck, the tokens are expensive but do juice {Sphere of Safety}. I also really like Indestrucible creatures because of {Spreading Plague}. But he's expensive, fairly difficult to get Devotion, Vigilance is nice but I wouldnt pay extra for it.

Basically I want to know if anyone runs, what is his utility range and do you think it has a place in this deck?

I think Heliod definitely deserves a spot. You don't seem to have a whole ton of creatures here, so he works great as a beater himself, or as a supplier for your army of 2/1 enchantment creatures :p Plus having the trifecta of gods is awesome. These are the cards that upon first glance appear to be a bit underwhelming to me, I'm sure one of them could be removed to make room for him.

{Tormods crypt}
{trading post}
{ill-gotten gains}
{seal of clensing}
{Elspeth Knight-errant}
{Sorin Lord of innistraad}

Quote from: Gocougs509 on October 02, 2014, 11:32:26 PM

Quote from: Dudecore on October 02, 2014, 11:18:49 PM
I keep talking myself into {Heliod, God of the Sun} and then talk myself right out of it. I love Token Generators in a Stax deck, the tokens are expensive but do juice {Sphere of Safety}. I also really like Indestrucible creatures because of {Spreading Plague}. But he's expensive, fairly difficult to get Devotion, Vigilance is nice but I wouldnt pay extra for it.

Basically I want to know if anyone runs, what is his utility range and do you think it has a place in this deck?

I think Heliod definitely deserves a spot. You don't seem to have a whole ton of creatures here, so he works great as a beater himself, or as a supplier for your army of 2/1 enchantment creatures :p Plus having the trifecta of gods is awesome. These are the cards that upon first glance appear to be a bit underwhelming to me, I'm sure one of them could be removed to make room for him.

{Tormods crypt}
{trading post}
{ill-gotten gains}
{seal of clensing}
{Elspeth Knight-errant}
{Sorin Lord of innistraad}

I think sorins pretty solid. He produces a butt ton of tokens for the same CMC as Heliod, and if you get his emblem, they become stronger as well.

I was thinking of dropping {Sun Titan}, only because he is not indestructible and 6 mana is a lot for me. I really start to get uncomfortable around 5+. Which is why I never added {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}. I was also running {Dark Confidant} at the time.

Sorin is good, Elspeth is better-er. Her emblem is perfect for Stax. Her tokens are worse but she has 2 good abilities.

Do either of you actually play {Heliod, God of the Sun}? I would like to hear how opponents react, or what kind of weirdness you can do with it.

{Seal of Cleansing} gets some recursion with {Sun Titan}, gets around {In the Eye of Chaos} and works with {Replenish}. My other recourse would be run {Disenchant} or {Council's Judgment}. A case could be made for either.

{Tormod's Crypt} can be changed into {Nihil Spellbomb} like it was before. Nihil costs more, but draws me a card if no one is interactive with their graveyard.

{Trading Post} is really a good way to gain some life back and draw cards. It is a really good EDH card imo. But If the situation arises where I cut {Sun Titan} add {Heliod, God of the Sun} then I can possibly cut {Trading Post} and add {Skullclamp}.

I've worked out a lot of deck permutations in my head. I really look at making the best deck possible for me. I don't want to start adding combos and stuff. I want to build my own little bubble and draw cards, with no real wincon.

Quote from: Dudecore on October 03, 2014, 08:09:28 PM
I was thinking of dropping {Sun Titan}, only because he is not indestructible and 6 mana is a lot for me. I really start to get uncomfortable around 5+. Which is why I never added {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}. I was also running {Dark Confidant} at the time.

Sorin is good, Elspeth is better-er. Her emblem is perfect for Stax. Her tokens are worse but she has 2 good abilities.

Do either of you actually play {Heliod, God of the Sun}? I would like to hear how opponents react, or what kind of weirdness you can do with it.

{Seal of Cleansing} gets some recursion with {Sun Titan}, gets around {In the Eye of Chaos} and works with {Replenish}. My other recourse would be run {Disenchant} or {Council's Judgment}. A case could be made for either.

{Tormod's Crypt} can be changed into {Nihil Spellbomb} like it was before. Nihil costs more, but draws me a card if no one is interactive with their graveyard.

{Trading Post} is really a good way to gain some life back and draw cards. It is a really good EDH card imo. But If the situation arises where I cut {Sun Titan} add {Heliod, God of the Sun} then I can possibly cut {Trading Post} and add {Skullclamp}.

I've worked out a lot of deck permutations in my head. I really look at making the best deck possible for me. I don't want to start adding combos and stuff. I want to build my own little bubble and draw cards, with no real wincon.

I'm not a hundred percent sure you wre referring to me when you said do either if you play Heliod but anyways, I don't personally but my friend (dimiroverlord on here) plays him in his Derevi stax deck. He works pretty well although his lock down method is more stasis/winter orb stuff and so the relevant part is the vigilance, although the soldiers are nice extra untap triggers. Getting on to being relevant, I do not play Heliod but have seen him preform really well in decks at FNM or just in videos online. Inherent indestructibility is really nice, so check that off. Generating tokens that can hit stuff and block is awesome. Giving whatever other stuff you have vigilance is also awesome, vigilance tends to be really underrated.

Quote from: Hexproof_is_the_best on October 03, 2014, 10:54:04 PM

Quote from: Dudecore on October 03, 2014, 08:09:28 PM
I was thinking of dropping {Sun Titan}, only because he is not indestructible and 6 mana is a lot for me. I really start to get uncomfortable around 5+. Which is why I never added {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}. I was also running {Dark Confidant} at the time.

Sorin is good, Elspeth is better-er. Her emblem is perfect for Stax. Her tokens are worse but she has 2 good abilities.

Do either of you actually play {Heliod, God of the Sun}? I would like to hear how opponents react, or what kind of weirdness you can do with it.

{Seal of Cleansing} gets some recursion with {Sun Titan}, gets around {In the Eye of Chaos} and works with {Replenish}. My other recourse would be run {Disenchant} or {Council's Judgment}. A case could be made for either.

{Tormod's Crypt} can be changed into {Nihil Spellbomb} like it was before. Nihil costs more, but draws me a card if no one is interactive with their graveyard.

{Trading Post} is really a good way to gain some life back and draw cards. It is a really good EDH card imo. But If the situation arises where I cut {Sun Titan} add {Heliod, God of the Sun} then I can possibly cut {Trading Post} and add {Skullclamp}.

I've worked out a lot of deck permutations in my head. I really look at making the best deck possible for me. I don't want to start adding combos and stuff. I want to build my own little bubble and draw cards, with no real wincon.

I'm not a hundred percent sure you wre referring to me when you said do either if you play Heliod but anyways, I don't personally but my friend (dimiroverlord on here) plays him in his Derevi stax deck. He works pretty well although his lock down method is more stasis/winter orb stuff and so the relevant part is the vigilance, although the soldiers are nice extra untap triggers. Getting on to being relevant, I do not play Heliod but have seen him preform really well in decks at FNM or just in videos online. Inherent indestructibility is really nice, so check that off. Generating tokens that can hit stuff and block is awesome. Giving whatever other stuff you have vigilance is also awesome, vigilance tends to be really underrated.

I don't know if id call my deck stax...

Yeah that's the kinda stuff I'm into knowing. I could see vigilance being good in multiplayer. I wonder if I should jam {Meekstone}, but that might be getting greedy.

I know a lot of Deveri decks run Heliod, but I've never heard of Stax doing it.

{Greater auramancy}?

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on October 04, 2014, 06:12:23 PM
{Greater auramancy}?

I don't know if I like {Greater Auramancy}. It just seems like it might eat a {Aura Shards} then continue, which is usually the case. I can free up some room for it I guess. I've got some {ponder}ing to do

+1 for the suggestion.

This deck needs {Embargo}

Quote from: Munchlax on October 04, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
This deck needs {Embargo}

You prefer {Embargo} over {Meekstone}? Meekstone keeps my little token guys viable when I don't have {Heliod, God of the Sun} out. That interaction isn't even in the deck yet, its all hypothetically speaking.

Quote from: Dudecore on October 04, 2014, 08:47:30 PM

Quote from: Munchlax on October 04, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
This deck needs {Embargo}

You prefer {Embargo} over {Meekstone}? Meekstone keeps my little token guys viable when I don't have {Heliod, God of the Sun} out. That interaction isn't even in the deck yet, its all hypothetically speaking.

But imbargo is so good with Oloro

Quote from: Munchlax on October 04, 2014, 09:28:22 PM

Quote from: Dudecore on October 04, 2014, 08:47:30 PM

Quote from: Munchlax on October 04, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
This deck needs {Embargo}

You prefer {Embargo} over {Meekstone}? Meekstone keeps my little token guys viable when I don't have {Heliod, God of the Sun} out. That interaction isn't even in the deck yet, its all hypothetically speaking.

But imbargo is so good with Oloro

The penalty hurts less with Oloro. But my deck is about resource denial, but I can't deny my own resources. I count on mana rocks untapping each turn after I destroy all Lands. {Embargo} practically locks me out of the game as well as everyone else. It's not fun being on the receiving end of that :P

Does {vile consumption} have a place in here?

Yep. I just don't know what to cut...I like that card though. Maybe lose {Spreading Plague}?

Quote from: Dudecore on October 28, 2014, 11:19:14 PM
Yep. I just don't know what to cut...I like that card though.

Night of souls betrayal? I know it locks with humility, but if you have humility, they're gonna be saccing all their dudes snyhow.

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on October 28, 2014, 11:23:26 PM

Quote from: Dudecore on October 28, 2014, 11:19:14 PM
Yep. I just don't know what to cut...I like that card though.

Night of souls betrayal? I know it locks with humility, but if you have humility, they're gonna be saccing all their dudes snyhow.

I hear ya. I'll give it a go.

+1 for suggestion with a cut.

Look who came in the mail today (http://imgur.com/IEJ9pIJ)

2 cards left. {Phyrexian Arena} and {Vampiric Tutor}.

This whole deck is worth more than my whole collection....


On second though, about 90% of the time a random 5 cards from this deck are probably worth more than my whole collection :P

Quote from: E.kann1 on November 12, 2014, 07:53:49 PM
This whole deck is worth more than my whole collection....


On second though, about 90% of the time a random 5 cards from this deck are probably worth more than my whole collection :P

That's not true :P

Besides maybe {Moat}, {Nether Void}, {Underground Sea} and foily {Liliana of the Veil} everything else is under $150. I am actively pursuing {The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale}, which I think is too crazy, even for my crazy standards.

Non-foil Lily is going into my Sedris deck right now.

You'd be surprised how worthless my collection is ;)

But yeah, maybe. Anyway, awesome lily is awesome.

Bump for llama.