1 {Llanowar Wastes}
1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
2 {Yavimaya Coast}
3 {Temple of Malady}
3 {Temple of Deceit}
2 {Temple of Mystery}
4 {Overgrown Tomb}
4 {Watery Grave}
4 {Breeding Pool}
24 lands
3 {Sylvan Caryatid}
4 {Courser of Kruphix}
1 {Ætherling}
8 creatures
1 {Garruk, Apex Predator}
2 {Thoughtseize}
2 {Ætherspouts}
2 {Liliana Vess}
2 {Nissa, Worldwaker}
3 {Abrupt Decay}
2 {Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver}
3 {Jace, Architect of Thought}
2 {Cyclonic Rift}
2 {Vraska the Unseen}
3 {Kiora, the Crashing Wave}
3 {Hero's Downfall}
1 {Jace, Memory Adept}
28 other spells
Sideboard
2 {Stain the Mind}
3 {Tormod's Crypt}
3 {Golgari Charm}
3 {Scavenging Ooze}
2 {Drown in Sorrow}
2 {Pithing Needle}
15 sideboard cards
Notes:
My Walker deck update
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Updated. Needs help
Bump, I need help
I personally would drop vraska for another {temple of deceit}. I would feel more comfortable with 22 lands than 21. I would also consider some enchantment hate like {fade to antiquity} since you can't play {revoke existence}. (Yes I know you has the caryatids but I'm looking at it from the mana base)
Considered :) any other thoughts?
I remember you having {Putrefy}? What happened to that? Maybe make it a sideboard card?
I took it out for Far//Away
Quote from: DylanW18 on March 29, 2014, 08:10:48 PM
I took it out for Far//Away
It did well to kill my Nayachants. Well done
Maybe try the courser of kruphix with underworld connections
You could drop the prophet and zeganna maybe? Also not a fan of scavenging ooze in the main.
Bump
Removed Prophet and added in some {Underworld Connections}
What about {Pack Rat}?
In playtest, Pack Rat is wrecking face
Well with underworld refilling hands it seems like pack rat would be good here. I agree that it probably is a nice tech to use here.
I feel like my SB is poo right now... What about Whip vs Control? Is Notion Thief worth it?
Check the thread topic taysby wrote that was stickied for an idea what is currently played the most in standard everyone net decks :)
Major update
Another big update
Anything? :p
I think everyone's focused on the upcoming set cards. Lol. I was disappointed with the lack of useful BUG support cards myself. Some good cards, don't get me wrong. Just not better than what we have access to.
The only one that stood out to me was the new 3cmc demon flier with 5/5. It's an insanely fast clock especially paired with desecration demon. Just a thought.
Quote from: NomadNostrebor on May 02, 2014, 12:59:50 PM
I think everyone's focused on the upcoming set cards. Lol. I was disappointed with the lack of useful BUG support cards myself. Some good cards, don't get me wrong. Just not better than what we have access to.
The only one that stood out to me was the new 3cmc demon flier with 5/5. It's an insanely fast clock especially paired with desecration demon. Just a thought.
He definitely caught my eye... But giving my opponents extra cards just doesn't seem worth it... I feel like that's too detrimental. Have you playtested with him before?
Bump
I took out my {Pack Rats}. It wasn't consistent enough. Instead, I added {Courser of Kruphix} back in. Filtering through the deck and gaining life is perfect. And the 2/4 body is nice
Also took out {Desecration Demon} for {Reaper of the Wilds}. It's a big deal but Reaper is a good body as well. It may not have flying, but Demon was always sacced to anyways. Plus Reaper gains Hexproof, Deathtouch and lets me Scry a lot. Perfect fit
I was thinking with the new demon trying out main decked flash creatures that turn opponents draws into free draws for me... Can't remember the card name sorry... With bug matchups I don't think that giving them 1 or 2 free cards is going to be that detrimental in the current standard environment. Not to mention that demon is a 4 turn clock that can trade with just about anything currently played if needed. Also it is hard to burn off like reaper.
You mean a {Notion Thief} paired with {Master of the Feasts}? That's not nice. 1 extra card for your opponent, then a 5/5 flier and extra cards for you.
Quote from: Splicer on May 05, 2014, 11:00:15 PM
You mean a {Notion Thief} paired with {Master of the Feasts}? That's not nice. 1 extra card for your opponent, then a 5/5 flier and extra cards for you.
When Desu demon rotates u can expect to see Mono black splashing for notion thief just so they can run feasts in demons spot.
Think about all of those sphinx revelation core decks out there now.... Notion thief eats them for breakfast... Lol. Another one I recently got introduced to says both players discard their hands and then draw new hands... Notion thief would have fun with that one.
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 06, 2014, 08:13:23 AM
Quote from: Splicer on May 05, 2014, 11:00:15 PM
You mean a {Notion Thief} paired with {Master of the Feasts}? That's not nice. 1 extra card for your opponent, then a 5/5 flier and extra cards for you.
When Desu demon rotates u can expect to see Mono black splashing for notion thief just so they can run feasts in demons spot.
Demon and thief rotate at the same time
I tried notion thief but he just didn't work honestly
Bump for respawned
This is a sick deck... Ima have to steal it ;) lol
Quote from: respawned on May 07, 2014, 02:45:42 AM
This is a sick deck... Ima have to steal it ;) lol
I appreciate it :) a lot of work went into it
Took out Reapers and Whip, added in a land, 3 {Psychic Strike}, and 1 {Jace Memory Adept}
This is a very cool deck how have to found it in FNM level games and why drop the reaper?
Quote from: Talock on May 15, 2014, 02:47:22 AM
This is a very cool deck how have to found it in FNM level games and why drop the reaper?
Thanks! I haven't taken a build like this to FNM yet, but in playtest, Reaper just didn't fit the curve. It's a good card, but I needed more spot removal. I do love Reaper, but I needed some counter action :p
Gaze of granite has been pretty helpfull in a similar build I have played.
I have considered Gaze. How has it benefited you the most?
Quote from: Nohcus on May 15, 2014, 09:12:08 AM
Gaze of granite has been pretty helpfull in a similar build I have played.
I like gaze but I think in a more control style deck maybe use {Extinguish All Hope}
Quote from: Talock on May 15, 2014, 08:00:55 PM
Quote from: Nohcus on May 15, 2014, 09:12:08 AM
Gaze of granite has been pretty helpfull in a similar build I have played.
I like gaze but I think in a more control style deck maybe use {Extinguish All Hope}
He loves his caryatids too much (which I can't blame him for) lol
Quote from: respawned on May 15, 2014, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: Talock on May 15, 2014, 08:00:55 PM
Quote from: Nohcus on May 15, 2014, 09:12:08 AM
Gaze of granite has been pretty helpfull in a similar build I have played.
I like gaze but I think in a more control style deck maybe use {Extinguish All Hope}
He loves his caryatids too much (which I can't blame him for) lol
I do love my Caryatids lol but I've considered Extinguish, and I think it'll go in post rotation most likely
Helps against those Aggro decks to stabilize saved me against pack rat a couple of times. With ramping mana it helps I think at least clear a board of hex proof enchantments as well.
Update! I was missing a Kiora for FNM (as in my trade hasn't come in yet :p) and I had an extra {Extinguish All Hope}, so I threw it in
First off, I was never upset to see it in my hand! I loved clearing the board of everything but my Courser!
Secondly, I think I prefer 2 Kiora weirdly. She's really nice to hit, but I think 2 is best
After FNM I packed another Extinguish all hope, and I took out a {Psychic Strike} for it. After playtest my deck seemed SO much stronger. Psychic at 2 was just perfect. I had it when the bombs dropped but my hand wasn't clogged so I wasn't getting multiple in my hand. And Extinguish was just a powerhouse . New MVP of the deck!
Also my SB wasn't done so I borrowed some stuff for the Aggro matchup, and I really loved my new SB. I believe it will stay this way. I'll let you guys know how next FNM works!
I also added my second Underworld into MB and it wrecked. One game I had Memory adept and both Underworlds out and drew 4 cards a turn. Value
I'm in a pickle guys. I really wanna run {Dimir Charm}. Is it good? I was thinking of it replacing {Psychic Strike}. Thoughts?
Quote from: DylanW18 on June 12, 2014, 02:59:45 PM
I'm in a pickle guys. I really wanna run {Dimir Charm}. Is it good? I was thinking of it replacing {Psychic Strike}. Thoughts?
I think that while the charm has different modes it is just too narrow in its uses. You'd rather be able to counter any spell at all. (Besides uncounterable things...)
I might run it in my SB as a 2of vs Aggro... I'll try it, see how it fairs
Quote from: DylanW18 on June 12, 2014, 04:59:56 PM
I might run it in my SB as a 2of vs Aggro... I'll try it, see how it fairs
That's probably better than main deck, in my opinion.
You're probably right... I just really like messing with people's decks lol
Updated with m15. SB is made for my meta, which is a bit smaller, but still strong. I've now 4-0'd there for a month straight. Also, both Nissa are foil <3
Really love the deck! It's pretty much post rotation and looks like loads of fun.
Although you have caryatid, 24 lands looks pretty light for a control/walker deck with a high curve. I would move it up to atleast 25 or 26;)
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 11, 2014, 05:25:38 PM
Really love the deck! It's pretty much post rotation and looks like loads of fun.
Although you have caryatid, 24 lands looks pretty light for a control/walker deck with a high curve. I would move it up to atleast 25 or 26;)
The land can be an issue sometimes, but I can't even describe how many times {Courser of Kruphix} has saved my ass lol him and card draw let me do fine, but unless I get solid card draw in Khans (which has wedge colors!!!!) I will move up to 26 lands :) thanks!