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Title: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 21, 2014, 09:00:37 PM
I sold a bunch of my cards and now i want to take that money and invest it into modern cards thatll only last or go up in value, i know shocklands are definitely good, but what else? Maybe some emmys or something instead?

Edit: also something that has virtually no chance of ever being banned o.o
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: rarehuntertay on March 21, 2014, 09:44:17 PM
Fetch lands, goyf, bob all come to mind
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 21, 2014, 09:48:28 PM
I dont like bob or goyf though haha thats my main reason for not getting them, theyre rock solid great cards but i think theyre kind of just boring as far as modern cards go
true-name
Emmy
Certain lands

I want to invest in something cool to look at haha, are the major eldrazis all safe investments? I love those
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Walkhard on March 21, 2014, 10:10:18 PM
As long as the current meta holds up. Cards rise and fall with what people are playing. But I'd say they should hold value and not go down, but they may not go up anymore
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Rass on March 21, 2014, 10:11:02 PM
If I were to do this I would look at the top tier decks and make something similar. Or look at the common cards in most of those decks. What keeps the cards at a high value is they are used most often.
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 21, 2014, 10:11:56 PM
It seems like the safest bet is starting to build a modern landbase
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Erik_the_gray on March 21, 2014, 10:18:02 PM
Land can fluctuate a lot, I've been investing in cards that have a lower chance of being reprinted like the major eldrazis. You also have to think about value in terms of what people are trading. If a card is being traded, it's still in circulation which means the price will be lower than cards people are seeking but not trading. Your best bet is to pick a unique card/mechanic and buy up as much of it as possible. The more you have, the less in circulation, and supply/demand would keep prices from dropping too much unless the card/mechanic is reprinted. Works the same way as money, the more in circulation, the less it's worth.
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 21, 2014, 11:09:29 PM
Quote from: Erik_the_gray on March 21, 2014, 10:18:02 PM
Land can fluctuate a lot, I've been investing in cards that have a lower chance of being reprinted like the major eldrazis. You also have to think about value in terms of what people are trading. If a card is being traded, it's still in circulation which means the price will be lower than cards people are seeking but not trading. Your best bet is to pick a unique card/mechanic and buy up as much of it as possible. The more you have, the less in circulation, and supply/demand would keep prices from dropping too much unless the card/mechanic is reprinted. Works the same way as money, the more in circulation, the less it's worth.
I understand what youre saying but could you give me some examples/ideas? I think kozilek would be good since if any edlrazi got banned i feel as if itd be emy
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Coffee Vampire on March 21, 2014, 11:12:10 PM
I don't mean to deciate from the thread's intention but it's worth mentioning that modern isn't as stable as one might think, and legacy is a better format to invest in long-term. It is less affected by newer cards and cards get banned less often.
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 21, 2014, 11:24:47 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on March 21, 2014, 11:12:10 PM
I don't mean to deciate from the thread's intention but it's worth mentioning that modern isn't as stable as one might think, and legacy is a better format to invest in long-term. It is less affected by newer cards and cards get banned less often.
But im more interested in playing modern because of the popularity and lower total proce cost. Would my best bet hoenstly be shocks and fetches since those are probably always going to be played
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Coffee Vampire on March 22, 2014, 12:47:48 AM
Yeah that's a very good point. Modern has the most support you get can for such a wide card pool. Most LGSs support it in the form of weekly tournaments. I would invest in a playset of:
Every shockland
Every fetchland (I'd wait to see if they reprint them to start SERIOUSLY buying them)
{Liliana of the Veil}
{Cryptic Command}
{Abrupt Decay}
{Scavenging Ooze}
{Mutavault}
{Thoughtseize}
(the last 3 won't be reprinted for a VERY long time)
{Snapcaster Mage} (this one will be much higher than what it is now)

That's all I could think of right now but I think it's a pretty decent list.
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 22, 2014, 12:56:39 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on March 22, 2014, 12:47:48 AM
Yeah that's a very good point. Modern has the most support you get can for such a wide card pool. Most LGSs support it in the form of weekly tournaments. I would invest in a playset of:
Every shockland
Every fetchland (I'd wait to see if they reprint them to start SERIOUSLY buying them)
{Liliana of the Veil}
{Cryptic Command}
{Abrupt Decay}
{Scavenging Ooze}
{Mutavault}
{Thoughtseize}
(the last 3 won't be reprinted for a VERY long time)
{Snapcaster Mage} (this one will be much higher than what it is now)

That's all I could think of right now but I think it's a pretty decent list.
I have a foul snappy Mage as well as a play set of non-foils. If anyone wants one PM me
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: ihasfrozen on March 22, 2014, 08:09:13 AM
"Investing" in a format where every card can (and most likely will at some point) be reprinted doesn't seem like a good idea. With modern PTQ season coming relatively soon, I wouldn't really recommend buying much of anything unless you are going to actually use them during that time.

I do believe that the eldrazi would be a decent choice if you wanted to get something, since they're plane-specific.

Oh, also {Spellskite}

Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 22, 2014, 09:44:51 AM
I think ill use my moolah to get 1-2 playsets of shocks and an eldrazi, itll satisfy my love of cool cards and the little voice that tells me to be reasonable
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Aladormax on March 22, 2014, 11:06:00 AM
I usually start by looking at the reserved list for cards to invest in. Then I check banned lists, and when the card was last printed. This helps me decide if a card will see a reprint at any point or not. If the card is very likely to see or has just seen one that means that the price will fluctuate. If it sees play in more than 3 decks that win major tournaments it will spike and hold. Lands are an unusual case as they will be the most used, but least reprinted of cards. This will mean that they only will hold the price until reprints are announced, case in point being shock land pricing. Full art lands from the sets that they were in are a good investment, but are not ungodly expensive or immune to price changes. Legendary creatures that gain value are good to pick up, as flavor reasons will see very few reprints for them. Staples such as  {Brainstorm} or  {Lightning Bolt} will be steady as they are beyond the power level of what is printed.
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Phoenix X30 on March 22, 2014, 08:31:11 PM
 {Snapcaster Mage} I think could get to the heights of  {Dark Confidant}.

Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 22, 2014, 08:32:46 PM
Quote from: Phoenix X30 on March 22, 2014, 08:31:11 PM
{Snapcaster Mage} I think could get to the heights of  {Dark Confidant}.
I think ill get snappys maybe tbh theyre so cool
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MacheteMable on March 22, 2014, 09:37:30 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 22, 2014, 08:32:46 PM
Quote from: Phoenix X30 on March 22, 2014, 08:31:11 PM
{Snapcaster Mage} I think could get to the heights of  {Dark Confidant}.
I think ill get snappys maybe tbh theyre so cool
now is the time. It's not going to be reprinted and it's only going to get more expensive. It's easily a {Dark Confidant} level card
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Phoenix X30 on March 23, 2014, 12:18:46 AM
If it ever gets a reprint it'll be in a future modern masters set in my opinion. so shouldn't effect the price too much if at all.
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: imthelolrus on March 23, 2014, 02:43:21 AM
Snapcaster, clique, tarmogoyf, bob, cryptic, Obliterators, geist, Lilly of the veil, spellskite, shocks, ooze.

Other random stuff, but those are some of the main staples that aren't likely to be reprinted soon.
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Coffee Vampire on March 23, 2014, 10:38:51 AM
It's interesting to note that most modern staples worth investing in are legacy staples too!
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 23, 2014, 07:12:19 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on March 23, 2014, 10:38:51 AM
It's interesting to note that most modern staples worth investing in are legacy staples too!

True.
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 24, 2014, 11:56:59 AM
Crap im not getting my monies now so no snappy for me :(
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Phoenix X30 on March 24, 2014, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 24, 2014, 11:56:59 AM
Crap im not getting my monies now so no snappy for me :(

Trading try hard mode ACTIVATE!
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 24, 2014, 05:03:58 PM
Quote from: Phoenix X30 on March 24, 2014, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 24, 2014, 11:56:59 AM
Crap im not getting my monies now so no snappy for me :(

Trading try hard mode ACTIVATE!

Haha golden, unfortunately i dont have good trade fodder either... Hooligan robbery mode activate? Or not
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Wally on March 24, 2014, 08:28:18 PM
Never activate the robbery mode. It reduced your karma to levels below sustainability, and it also reduces your public opinion to trash.


Also I'd say the swords won't see a reprint again, or urza lands for that matter.
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 24, 2014, 08:29:47 PM
twas simply a joke no worries :) and i think im just going to draft until i have an actual modern deck to start building towards, nevermind the investment idea. My favorite thing is to draft anyways :) its so freakin fun
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 26, 2014, 09:05:58 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on March 26, 2014, 08:59:58 PM
Just wait for MM2 and buy a couple of boxes
Hopefully they print more this time around so we can get them at MSRP.
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 26, 2014, 11:15:42 PM
Haha oh ok let me just crap out $500 for a COUPLE BOXES OF MM -.- ill just spend my college funds on it lol
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 26, 2014, 11:16:15 PM
Damn you mtg, shoulda known college was a silly idea
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Phoenix X30 on March 27, 2014, 11:01:19 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on March 27, 2014, 09:44:13 AM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 26, 2014, 11:16:15 PM
Damn you mtg, shoulda known college was a silly idea
MM2 dude, it should be coming out in the next year or so.

Filled with Liliana OTV, snappy and Thundermaw Hellkite :)
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: MisterJH on March 27, 2014, 11:03:01 PM
Like a said.. All my savings are belong yo wotc
Title: Re: Modern investments
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 27, 2014, 11:03:06 PM
I have some Thundermaw if anyone needs 'em. I played a Jund deck while he was in standard