i put a bribery counter on opponents creature using {Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer} and incase of opponent used {Flicker} on his/her creature, does the bribery counter removed?
thanks
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on March 21, 2014, 12:34:46 AM
i put a bribery counter on opponents creature using {Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer} and incase of opponent used {Flicker} on his/her creature, does the bribery counter removed?
thanks
Yes. When the creature gets exiled, it loses all memory of its past. So it would forget any bribery it was given beforehand to not attack or block. Getting exiled just removed all counters from crap. Good way to kill Primordial Hydra
All counters and enchantments would be removed unless they are other wise stated. When you {Flicker} them it is almost like you are resummoning them.
Yes the counter would be removed. When a permanent leaves the battlefield and it were to return in anyway, it has no memory of the time it was previously on the battlefield. All counters are removed.
oh, thank you guys :) now, {Phage the Untouchable} and {Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer} commander in the making :) thanks thanks
Relevant ruling:
403.4. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=403.4.): Whenever a permanent enters the battlefield, it becomes a new object and has no relationship to any previous permanent represented by the same card, except for the cases listed in rule 400.7. (This is also true for any objects entering any zone.)
Quote from: FustyDavorite on March 21, 2014, 12:44:36 AM
Relevant ruling:
403.4. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=403.4.): Whenever a permanent enters the battlefield, it becomes a new object and has no relationship to any previous permanent represented by the same card, except for the cases listed in rule 400.7. (This is also true for any objects entering any zone.)
and so with Enchant Creatures and Equipments, thank you :)
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on March 21, 2014, 12:49:31 AM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on March 21, 2014, 12:44:36 AM
Relevant ruling:
403.4. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=403.4.): Whenever a permanent enters the battlefield, it becomes a new object and has no relationship to any previous permanent represented by the same card, except for the cases listed in rule 400.7. (This is also true for any objects entering any zone.)
and so with Enchant Creatures and Equipments, thank you :)
Enchantments would fall off and go to the graveyard, or become creatures if they were bestow enchantments.
303.4c (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=303.4c): If an Aura is enchanting an illegal object or player as defined by its enchant ability and other applicable effects,
the object it was attached to no longer exists, or the player it was attached to has left the game,
the Aura is put into its owner's graveyard. (This is a state-based action. See rule 704.)
Equipment would fall off but they get to keep the equipment
301.5c (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=301.5c): An Equipment that's also a creature can't equip a creature. An Equipment that loses the subtype "Equipment" can't equip a creature. An Equipment can't equip itself.
An Equipment that equips an illegal or nonexistent permanent becomes unattached from that permanent but remains on the battlefield. (This is a state-based action. See rule 704.) An Equipment can't equip more than one creature. If a spell or ability would cause an Equipment to equip more than one creature, the Equipment's controller chooses which creature it equips.
The rule regarding counters on objects moving from one zone to another
121.2. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=121.2.): Counters on an object are not retained if that object moves from one zone to another. The counters are not "removed"; they simply cease to exist. See rule 400.7.
When an object moves to exile from the BF, all counters on it vanish. This is the relevant rule to the original question.
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on March 21, 2014, 12:40:05 AM
oh, thank you guys :) now, {Phage the Untouchable} and {Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer} commander in the making :) thanks thanks
Just remember, if you flicker Phage, you lose
Quote from: rarehuntertay on March 21, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on March 21, 2014, 12:40:05 AM
oh, thank you guys :) now, {Phage the Untouchable} and {Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer} commander in the making :) thanks thanks
Just remember, if you flicker Phage, you lose
not if you have a {torpor orb} out.