If I were to have a {Rooftop Storm} in play, and my commander is any of the legendary zombies, would I be able to play it for free? Would I only need to pay the extra mana per time my commander got killed? Or would it not affect my commander at all?
incase its good, these are the possible commander zombies, add if there are still more :)
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{Sedris, the Traitor King}
{Lord of Tresserhorn}
{Grimgrin, Corpse-Born}
{Dralnu, Lich Lord}
You would have to pay the tax but nothing else.
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on March 13, 2014, 07:46:08 AM
incase its good, these are the possible commander zombies, add if there are still more :)
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{Sedris, the Traitor King}
{Lord of Tresserhorn}
{Grimgrin, Corpse-Born}
{Dralnu, Lich Lord}
There are 18 total legendary zombies.
{Balthor the Defiled}
{Bladewing the Risen}
{Boris Devilboon}
{Dralnu, Lich Lord}
{Geth, Lord of the Vault}
{Glissa, the Traitor}
{Grimgrin, Corpse-Born}
{Haakon, Stromgald Scourge}
{Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord}
{Korlash, Heir to Blackblade}
{Lord of Tresserhorn}
{Mikaeus, the Unhallowed}
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{Phage the Untouchable}
{Sedris, the Traitor King}
{Skullbriar, the Walking Grave}
{Thraximundar}
{Tymaret, the Murder King}
Quote from: rarehuntertay on March 13, 2014, 07:59:29 AM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on March 13, 2014, 07:46:08 AM
incase its good, these are the possible commander zombies, add if there are still more :)
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{Sedris, the Traitor King}
{Lord of Tresserhorn}
{Grimgrin, Corpse-Born}
{Dralnu, Lich Lord}
There are 18 total legendary zombies.
{Balthor the Defiled}
{Bladewing the Risen}
{Boris Devilboon}
{Dralnu, Lich Lord}
{Geth, Lord of the Vault}
{Glissa, the Traitor}
{Grimgrin, Corpse-Born}
{Haakon, Stromgald Scourge}
{Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord}
{Korlash, Heir to Blackblade}
{Lord of Tresserhorn}
{Mikaeus, the Unhallowed}
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{Phage the Untouchable}
{Sedris, the Traitor King}
{Skullbriar, the Walking Grave}
{Thraximundar}
{Tymaret, the Murder King}
i just forgot {Thraximundar}, ive selected only commander with {U} on it because of the card {Rooftop Storm} :)
but still thanks for adding up :)
Oh duh... Face palm self
i believe there is an old thread about this with alternative costs etc and with a bunch of the old mods discussing their thoughts. ill try to bump it.
Thanks for the answer! Yeah, i have a zombie commander deck and I was wondering if it could be as broken as I thought.
Playing Thraximundar for free is nasty.
So the two addition colorless mana is considered a tax and not just more mana cost?
Ps. Don't use {Phage the Untouchable} as your commander. (Cast for instant loss)
Quote from: Wally on March 13, 2014, 05:34:08 PM
Ps. Don't use {Phage the Untouchable} as your commander. (Cast for instant loss)
im planning to make one :)
Make opponent cast phage!!! Wtf win!
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on March 13, 2014, 05:54:12 PM
Quote from: Wally on March 13, 2014, 05:34:08 PM
Ps. Don't use {Phage the Untouchable} as your commander. (Cast for instant loss)
im planning to make one :)
Make sure to use {Torpor Orb} and {Time Stop} and such.
I love phage. I use it myself
903.10. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=903.10.): A player may cast a commander he or she owns from the command zone. Doing so costs that player an additional {2} for each previous time he or she cast that commander from the command zone that game.
Ok this is the rule. So then from looking at this and {Rooftop Storm}'s ability I believe (So please don't hold me entirely accountable if I'm wrong) that the two is in addition to the mana cost allowing for your commander to be free. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I think you did that better than I did....
This is even the best I've ever done in the rules section
And you still did it
I did too but I didn't remember it perfectly.
I play {Thraximundar} zombie tribal EDH on MTGO. With {Rooftop Storm} Thrax is free if its his first time being summoned from the command zone. All subsequent times he is cast you must pay the "commander tax". However if you have {undead warchief} on the field the "tax" is reduced by 1.
Here is my understanding: you do have to pay the {2} additional for each time you cast it. Here's why:
The {2} is not added the the mana cost of your commander. It is simply required by the ruling that you pay it for each time the Commander is sent back to the command zone. So, say {Thraximundar} has been sent back once, so to play him in a normal manner he would cost his {4}{U}{B}{R} THEN plus the {2}. It should not be read as {6}{U}{B}{R}. You utilize {Rooftop Storm}'a alternate casting cost to reduce it to {0} THEN plus {2}.
Wait did people already come to this conclusion? I can't tell anymore lol
Quote from: Noblellama on March 15, 2014, 03:47:43 PM
Lol yes, but the visual representation is nice :)
lol wonderful I love being redundtant
Redundancy is necessary in a game based on math and symantics...