im not sure if all the hate of piotr is still going on but really people just move on, its done and cant be changed, get back to the game we all love and the reason we got the app to begin with.
my favorite band is five finger death punch and i try to live by 2 simple quotes from 2 songs. (the quotes are located below.) and if you really think about it you might understand that in all the people on earth things that happen on this app dont really matter at all so why do you bother to keep makeing a fuss over them whats done is done it cant be changed.
(now the quotes)
In the end we're all just chalk lines on the concrete
Drawn only to be washed away
For the time that I've been given
I am what I am (never enough-ffdp)
You're born alone, you die alone
The rest is yours to fill the gap
The world goes on without you here
Adjust or just collapse (stranger than fiction-ffdp)
im not saying what piotr did was ok or reasonable im just asking all of you how are still here to get back to the game because the game is why you came here to begin with.
please dont kill my karma for this
I get what your saying and I care more about the game and the community than the drama. The problem is that some people think that piotr's actions show his disrespect for the community and its members.
I am trying hard to stay nutral, but I feel indirectly insulted by Piotr currently ignoring the reasoned and level headed complaints that he has been asked to address. (I fully support him ignoring the inflammatory and stupid complaints that were leveled in to he past...I think those people are all gone now and Piotr showed admirable restraint when it came tot he worst of those comments).
I want to stay here and stay active, but its hard for me to support or recomend a space where members are banned for unfair reasons or have to be afraid of sudden unreasonable bans. Maybe his actions and bans were reasonable, but they don't look that way and need him to explain them.
He can explain them well and I'll be happy. He can apologize to abstract and to the community and I'll be happy. He can ignore it and I will keep asking him to account for himself. He can give poor excuses and lose respect. His job is not to make me happy, but as leader of a community it's his duty, and as someone who gets money from the app it's his job to try to grow and respect the community.
And +1 for speaking your mind calmly. :) We need more of that in the world.
"I'm not really sure if the hate of Piotr is still going on.."
".. but really people, just move on."
...what?
I stopped reading after "my favorite band is 5 finger death punch"
Get the ufck out
Quote from: Stromack on March 12, 2014, 06:51:10 PM
I stopped reading after "my favorite band is 5 finger death punch"
Get the ufck out
lol, neither of those quotes sounded very good to me.
how about
"Nibblin' on sponge cake,
watchin' the sun bake;
All of those tourists covered with oil.
Strummin' my six string on my front porch swing.
Smell those shrimp
They're beginnin' to boil.
Wasted away again in Margaritaville,
Searchin' for my lost shaker of salt.
Some people claim that there's a woman to blame,
But I know it's nobody's fault."
~Jimmy Buffet
seems about as relevant
We're no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
CHORUS
Never gonna give you up,
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry,
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it
And if you ask me how I'm feeling
Don't tell me you're too blind to see (CHORUS)
CHORUSCHORUS
(Ooh give you up)
(Ooh give you up)
(Ooh) never gonna give, never gonna give
(give you up)
(Ooh) never gonna give, never gonna give
(give you up)
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it (TO FRONT)
Right about now
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~Fatboy Slim
"Nah. Nah nah nuh nah, nah nah nuh nah, nah nah nuh nah, nuh nuh
Repeat x 4 minutes
~ Daft Punk
My name is Mr. Wilson and I'm here to say. I'm gonna smack your ass in a major way.
What're you doing in my basement? Get outta here!
Get outta here!
Dennis. I'm sorry I yelled at you just there.
What we're gonna do now, is I'm gonna learn you to play buttball.
Step 1: Never Tell Your Parents.
Step 2: NEVER! TELL! YOUR PARENTS!
~Game Grumps.
Also, yes I agree we should move on. Although is that wrong as there were a number of people wronged by that whole ban business. Idk, just sick of the community taking such a huge hit. It almost took a day for my rules post to be answered! What is this?! Lol, yeah. So people keep it strong I suppose?
A lot of the people who lived on the rules board answering questions are the ones who quit in protest or were kicked out. They have been asking why the rules board over there is so quiet with no one asking questions. Lol.
I would love to join the group again, but only Piotr has the power to try to make that happen.
You're the only one who kicked yourself off the island
You're posting here so I assume you're using the app without problems?
Keep in mind regarding rules: people are taking time out of their own day to cite rules and explain the step process.
It's not an immediate "google answer" for everything in the universe
I was unclear. I wasn't meaning that I want to come back, I never left. I want to join/merge/repair the two groups back into one. I would be happy to have that be on the app. Sorry for being really unclear there.
And I don't understand your comment about google answers, but I assume that was a tangent.
People just expect rulings instantly like the forum is google. One of the things brought up in this thread was it took nearly a day to get a reply on a ruling.
What happens when you ask a Q is someone takes up their own time to find the ruling for you.
For those who left to start their own community: we can't force them to come back only they can rejoin
True on both parts.
And yes, those who left could come back (excluding a few who are premabaned, and some of them were really ugly and earned it).
But they won't return if the reason they left is unaddressed. It sounds like no one thinks its unreasonable of them to need some sort of apology, to abstract at least.
I get that my posts don't seem to have any effect, in just more confused on why so many of you all seem to agree with the accusations that Piotr is an abusive jerk, but you don't seemed bothered by that fact.
I see where he got offended and asked her to stop.
She didn't.
I also believe discussion of .politics. is dangerous territory in any forum community I've been apart of. I try to stay away from that stuff and focus on what brought me to that specific forum:
I came here for magic. Not forum rights.
As a very short tangent, why do you care? I don't mean that disrespectfully, but if you arnt here for forum discussions or for protecting people's rights, then why do you read the political etc discussion page and the trials page?
I feel like I am wasting my time, and that Piotr may not even be reading my posts, but if you are annoyed by these threads, why do you read them?
Quote from: Destore117 on March 13, 2014, 11:42:54 AM
It almost took a day for my rules post to be answered! What is this?! Lol, yeah. So people keep it strong I suppose?
Which post is this? Looking through your last five rules questions, almost all of them were answered within minutes (one took almost an hour). Or am I misunderstanding something?
If something needs to be done about the Rules section, let me know guys! We lost some good people, and I'm trying to hop back into iMtG after a hiatus, so I might miss some things here or there.
Quote from: Ieatfood7 on March 13, 2014, 03:11:59 PM
I get that my posts don't seem to have any effect, in just more confused on why so many of you all seem to agree with the accusations that Piotr is an abusive jerk, but you don't seemed bothered by that fact.
Simple answer. I can't change Piotr.
Pros vs cons weighed out better to stay(for me).
It's like discussing this with you there is going to be a time where I am just gonna say "oh well I can't change leatfood7 mind so I will stop discussing this. " then get over it and ignore your posts.
live and let die people...
Quote from: Rass on March 13, 2014, 06:22:50 PM
Quote from: Ieatfood7 on March 13, 2014, 03:11:59 PM
I get that my posts don't seem to have any effect, in just more confused on why so many of you all seem to agree with the accusations that Piotr is an abusive jerk, but you don't seemed bothered by that fact.
Simple answer. I can't change Piotr.
Pros vs cons weighed out better to stay(for me).
It's like discussing this with you there is going to be a time where I am just gonna say "oh well I can't change leatfood7 mind so I will stop discussing this. " then get over it and ignore your posts.
I wish you could change my mind, but no one has tried. They have tried to change my mind on whether to ignore Piotr flagrantly flaunt his own self imposed rules which he punishes people for without cause. But no one has tried to change my mind that I am wrong about him. If you have an idea on that, please post and I will be very receptive.
Maybe I just high an overly sensitive sense of injustice, but I am embarrassed by the callousness exhibited by many people here. A friend (or at least a fellow imtg member) asked for redress of grievances, and people just want her to shut up about it. I once again admit I am not directly harmed by anything he did, but I want to keep her plight in the site of the community until she gets an answer.
Quote from: Muggywuggy on March 13, 2014, 03:36:19 PM
I see where he got offended and asked her to stop.
She didn't.
I also believe discussion of .politics. is dangerous territory in any forum community I've been apart of. I try to stay away from that stuff and focus on what brought me to that specific forum:
I came here for magic. Not forum rights.
Amen muggy
Quote from: IceScythe on March 13, 2014, 06:24:27 PM
live and let die people...
Live and let people die...