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Title: Half cards
Post by: Destore117 on March 11, 2014, 09:19:26 PM
For something like{Turn//Burn} does it count as 2 instants/sorceries for {Guttersnipe}?
Do they count as separate cards.
Title: Re: Half cards
Post by: rarehuntertay on March 11, 2014, 09:32:28 PM
One spell. You either cast one half or cast it fused, which counts as one spell.
Title: Re: Half cards
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 11, 2014, 09:33:02 PM
No

That card is considered two halves, in rulings it is still referred to as spell, indicating 1.



702.101. Fuse
702.101a Fuse is a static ability found on some split cards (see rule 708, "Split Cards") that applies while the card with fuse is in a player's hand. If a player casts a split card with fuse from his or her hand, the player may choose to cast both halves of that split card. This choice is made before putting the split card with fuse onto the stack. The resulting spell is a fused split spell.
702.101b A fused split spell has two sets of characteristics and one converted mana cost. The converted mana cost of the spell is a number equal to the total amount of mana in its two mana costs, regardless of color.
702.100c The total cost of a fused split spell includes the mana cost of each half. (See rule 601.2e.)
702.101d As a fused split spell resolves, the controller of the spell follows the instructions of the left half and then follows the instructions of the right half.


As you can see: it constantly refers to the card as a "fused split spell" not spells
Title: Re: Half cards
Post by: Destore117 on March 11, 2014, 09:49:27 PM
Ok so say I only cast half of it
Would it still count for 2 on {Tablet of the Guilds}?
Title: Re: Half cards
Post by: Giggle the Draco Genius on March 11, 2014, 09:53:41 PM
Everywhere but the stack it counts as both parts.

If you cast it for only one half the card only assumes that half's identity. I.E casting only burn makes it red with a CMC of 2 on the stack

Edit: sry typo gave wrong info has been fixed
Title: Re: Half cards
Post by: ibtrickey on March 11, 2014, 09:58:27 PM
Wait.. So turn//burn in reference to guttersnipe??
Title: Re: Half cards
Post by: Destore117 on March 11, 2014, 09:59:01 PM
So I'd be casting a red spell. Cuz on the stack it's whatever I cast.
And tablet says whenever you cast a spell if its the chosen color(s) you may gain 1 life
So when I cast Turn it'd be a red spell. Right?
Title: Re: Half cards
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 11, 2014, 10:17:28 PM
Turn is a blue spell of the half
Burn is the red spell of the half

If both halves are cast it is multicolored on stack

Fused cards are always multicolor in your hand

From MTGwiki under fused rulings

- Some split cards with fuse have two monocolor halves of different colors. If such a card is cast as a fused split spell, the resulting spell is multicolored. If only one half is cast, the spell is the color of that half. While not on the stack, such a card is multicolored.

-Some split cards with fuse have two halves that are both multicolored. That card is multicolored no matter which half is cast, or if both halves are cast. It's also multicolored while not on the stack.