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Title: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Skyshadow731 on March 09, 2014, 09:59:48 PM

Horobi Monoblack

100 cards, 0 sideboard


1 {Horobi, Death's Wail}
1 {Deserted Temple}
1 {Desert}
1 {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}
1 {Cabal Coffers}
1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
1 {Bottomless Vault}
1 {Bojuka Bog}
34 {Swamp}

41 lands


1 {Crypt Ghast}
1 {Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief}
1 {Guul Draz Assassin}
1 {Pawn of Ulamog}
1 {Harvester of Souls}
1 {Ogre Slumlord}
1 {Toshiro Umezawa}
1 {Reaper from the Abyss}
1 {Dross Harvester}
1 {Sheoldred, Whispering One}
1 {Soul Collector}
1 {Gristle Grinner}
1 {Corrupting Licid}
1 {Lim-Dûl the Necromancer}
1 {Geth, Lord of the Vault}
1 {Morkrut Banshee}
1 {It That Betrays}
1 {Solemn Simulacrum}
1 {Agent of the Fates}
1 {Massacre Wurm}
1 {Wakedancer}
1 {Sangromancer}
1 {Cabal Torturer}
1 {Butcher of Malakir}
1 {Nightmare}
1 {Erebos, God of the Dead}
1 {Falkenrath Noble}
1 {Deathgreeter}
1 {Abyssal Hunter}
1 {Blood Artist}
1 {Festering Goblin}
1 {Nirkana Revenant}

32 creatures


1 {Murder}
1 {Sorin Markov}
1 {Weakness}
1 {Darkblast}
1 {Eternity Vessel}
1 {Liliana of the Dark Realms}
1 {Caged Sun}
1 {Shriveling Rot}
1 {Necropotence}
1 {Living End}
1 {Black Market}
1 {Disfigure}
1 {Tragic Slip}
1 {Dark Ritual}
1 {Isochron Scepter}
1 {Blowfly Infestation}
1 {Liliana Vess}
1 {Sadistic Glee}
1 {Unholy Strength}
1 {Hex}
1 {Quest for the Gravelord}
1 {Grave Betrayal}
1 {Drain Life}
1 {Death's Approach}
1 {Afflict}
1 {Grave Pact}

26 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:

Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Skyshadow731 on March 09, 2014, 10:00:23 PM
I need more card and any advice on what to take out if it shouldnt be in the deck.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 10:04:24 PM
{murder}
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: FustyDavorite on March 09, 2014, 10:10:41 PM
All the lilianas! Except for maybe veil.  {Crypt Ghast}! That other creature that I believe that is from Zendikar that has an ability similar to Crypt Ghast! Maybe experiment with the land base a bit?  {Bojuka Bog}? Some other non basics?
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Nymuera on March 09, 2014, 10:43:07 PM
{weakness} or {unholy strength} should work.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Nymuera on March 09, 2014, 10:51:17 PM
{abyssal hunter}
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Nymuera on March 09, 2014, 11:11:31 PM
{corrupting licid} would be pretty cool too. Trying to stay cheap with the costs on my suggestions.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: MisterJH on March 09, 2014, 11:14:41 PM
I feel like theres tons of artifacts that let you target a creature multiple times, try searching for that specifically. Anything thatll stay on the field and has a targetting ability is OP in here
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Nymuera on March 09, 2014, 11:33:08 PM
{geth, lord of the vault} would fit in nicely to take what you kill.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Jackson get out on March 09, 2014, 11:56:36 PM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on March 09, 2014, 10:10:41 PM
All the lilianas! Except for maybe veil.  {Crypt Ghast}! That other creature that I believe that is from Zendikar that has an ability similar to Crypt Ghast! Maybe experiment with the land base a bit?  {Bojuka Bog}? Some other non basics?
{Nirkana Revenant}
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: FustyDavorite on March 10, 2014, 12:11:19 AM
Quote from: Jackson get out on March 09, 2014, 11:56:36 PM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on March 09, 2014, 10:10:41 PM
All the lilianas! Except for maybe veil.  {Crypt Ghast}! That other creature that I believe that is from Zendikar that has an ability similar to Crypt Ghast! Maybe experiment with the land base a bit?  {Bojuka Bog}? Some other non basics?
{Nirkana Revenant}
bang. This guy knows what's up. Black creature accel all the way
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Spikepit on March 10, 2014, 02:49:20 AM
{Nightmare}
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Spikepit on March 10, 2014, 02:51:33 AM
{Drain Life}
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Skyshadow731 on March 10, 2014, 09:15:19 AM
I like the idea of killing their stuff than stealing it.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: LordJanova on March 10, 2014, 01:17:44 PM
 {Nefashu} target and kill 5 creatures each time it attacks
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: particle on March 10, 2014, 03:12:31 PM
i second {cabal coffers}. with urborg, {deserted temple} {nykthos, shrine to nyx} you can make lots of mana.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Condor-Wingman on March 10, 2014, 05:23:24 PM
{Screams From Within} - basically a Boardwipe with your Commander.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: particle on March 10, 2014, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Condor-Wingman on March 10, 2014, 05:23:24 PM
{Screams From Within} - basically a Boardwipe with your Commander.

are you sure? when it comes back to the battlefield and attaches to a creature, it doesnt target that creature.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: FustyDavorite on March 10, 2014, 08:49:36 PM
Quote from: particle on March 10, 2014, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Condor-Wingman on March 10, 2014, 05:23:24 PM
{Screams From Within} - basically a Boardwipe with your Commander.

are you sure? when it comes back to the battlefield and attaches to a creature, it doesnt target that creature.
114.1b (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=114.1b): Aura spells are always targeted. These are the only permanent spells with targets. An Aura's target is specified by its enchant keyword ability (see rule 702.5, "Enchant"). The target(s) are chosen as the spell is cast; see rule 601.2c. An Aura permanent doesn't target anything; only the spell is targeted. (An activated or triggered ability of an Aura permanent can also be targeted.)
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Sardok on March 10, 2014, 09:04:19 PM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on March 10, 2014, 08:49:36 PM
Quote from: particle on March 10, 2014, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Condor-Wingman on March 10, 2014, 05:23:24 PM
{Screams From Within} - basically a Boardwipe with your Commander.

are you sure? when it comes back to the battlefield and attaches to a creature, it doesnt target that creature.
114.1b (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=114.1b): Aura spells are always targeted. These are the only permanent spells with targets. An Aura's target is specified by its enchant keyword ability (see rule 702.5, "Enchant"). The target(s) are chosen as the spell is cast; see rule 601.2c. An Aura permanent doesn't target anything; only the spell is targeted. (An activated or triggered ability of an Aura permanent can also be targeted.)

303.4f If an Aura is entering the battlefield under a player's control by any means other than by resolving as an Aura spell, and the effect putting it onto the battlefield doesn't specify the object or player the Aura will enchant, that player chooses what it will enchant as the Aura enters the battlefield. The player must choose a legal object or player according to the Aura's enchant ability and any other applicable effects.

Choose, not target. No boardwipe, sorry.

Besides, it doesn't come back into play as an Aura spell, it comes back in as an Aura.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: particle on March 11, 2014, 12:28:32 AM
yes i was right!
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Condor-Wingman on March 11, 2014, 05:54:01 AM
My mistake.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Skyshadow731 on March 11, 2014, 11:48:12 AM
Updated
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: particle on March 11, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
think you need more global removal a la {damnation}. also consider {deserted temple} instead of a swamp, untapping nykthos or coffers is nuts. also maybe an eldrazi like {it that betrays}, since your adding all this mana ramp.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: AdamS on March 11, 2014, 04:01:40 PM
 {It That Betrays} with {grave pact} and  {Butcher of Malakir} make a great set of cards in a deck like this just target one of your spells and steal 2 from your opponents addin a {blood artist} and any sac outlet but i recommend {bloodthrone vampire} because it makes it so you can clear opponents field for one creature (of yours) and a few of theirs and then attack for an unblockable amount
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: particle on March 11, 2014, 04:26:27 PM
also {sheoldred, whispering one}!
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Skyshadow731 on March 12, 2014, 12:26:12 AM
Quote from: particle on March 11, 2014, 04:26:27 PM
also {sheoldred, whispering one}!
I cant believe i didn't think of him
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Skyshadow731 on March 12, 2014, 01:00:23 AM
Updated. What do you guys think of the deck. Any replacements
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: DylanW18 on March 12, 2014, 10:35:20 AM
You could safely cut 10 lands
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Skyshadow731 on March 12, 2014, 11:46:33 AM
What lands
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Nymuera on March 12, 2014, 12:00:34 PM
Cut the basic lands. Look for specialty lands like {Bottomless Vault}. But for sure cut your total land count by ten at least.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Jackson get out on March 12, 2014, 02:27:07 PM
Add  {Desert}  {Maze of Ith}, and  {Mystifying Maze} to be able to kill creatures with lands! And also I'd go with about 38 lands total in this deck as long as you have a few ramping artifacts!
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Skyshadow731 on March 12, 2014, 03:28:20 PM
So i had takin out the lands that yall said so i have room for more things.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: particle on March 13, 2014, 12:47:42 PM
{necropotence} and {eternity vessel}. also cut a few basics.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: particle on March 14, 2014, 01:30:10 AM
and no {eye gouge}. black has much better removal than that.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Skyshadow731 on March 14, 2014, 10:05:01 AM
Quote from: particle on March 14, 2014, 01:30:10 AM
and no {eye gouge}. black has much better removal than that.
Its not nessecarlily suppose to be removal, the commander is removal.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: particle on March 14, 2014, 03:31:04 PM
Quote from: Skyshadow731 on March 14, 2014, 10:05:01 AM
Quote from: particle on March 14, 2014, 01:30:10 AM
and no {eye gouge}. black has much better removal than that.
Its not nessecarlily suppose to be removal, the commander is removal.

yea but you have to assume they are going to try to kill your commander asap so you want cards that are good with or without him.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Skyshadow731 on March 14, 2014, 03:58:51 PM
Quote from: particle on March 14, 2014, 03:31:04 PM
Quote from: Skyshadow731 on March 14, 2014, 10:05:01 AM
Quote from: particle on March 14, 2014, 01:30:10 AM
and no {eye gouge}. black has much better removal than that.
Its not nessecarlily suppose to be removal, the commander is removal.

yea but you have to assume they are going to try to kill your commander asap so you want cards that are good with or without him.

You have a point. Ok. What could i replace it with.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: AdamS on March 14, 2014, 04:52:09 PM
Quote from: Skyshadow731 on March 14, 2014, 03:58:51 PM
Quote from: particle on March 14, 2014, 03:31:04 PM
Quote from: Skyshadow731 on March 14, 2014, 10:05:01 AM
Quote from: particle on March 14, 2014, 01:30:10 AM
and no {eye gouge}. black has much better removal than that.
Its not nessecarlily suppose to be removal, the commander is removal.

yea but you have to assume they are going to try to kill your commander asap so you want cards that are good with or without him.

You have a point. Ok. What could i replace it with.
if you still want a cmc 1 the  {Death's Approach}
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Skyshadow731 on March 14, 2014, 06:40:26 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 14, 2014, 04:52:09 PM
Quote from: Skyshadow731 on March 14, 2014, 03:58:51 PM
Quote from: particle on March 14, 2014, 03:31:04 PM
Quote from: Skyshadow731 on March 14, 2014, 10:05:01 AM
Quote from: particle on March 14, 2014, 01:30:10 AM
and no {eye gouge}. black has much better removal than that.
Its not nessecarlily suppose to be removal, the commander is removal.

yea but you have to assume they are going to try to kill your commander asap so you want cards that are good with or without him.

You have a point. Ok. What could i replace it with.
if you still want a cmc 1 the  {Death's Approach}

It doesnt have to be a 1 drop
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Condor-Wingman on March 14, 2014, 08:36:57 PM
If you go against Human Tribal Decks or Commanders, {Human Frailty} is a great {B} one-drop to consider, as a replacement.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Skyshadow731 on June 14, 2014, 03:20:17 AM
So i have been thinking i need some help with this deck.
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Qpwner on June 14, 2014, 06:45:15 AM
 {Kuro, Pitlord}, {Plagued Rusalka}, {Planeswalker's Scorn}, {Weed-Pruner Poplar}.

You may have mentioned a few of these. Just search all black and colorless permaments that have the text "target :"
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on June 14, 2014, 02:49:06 PM
{ashes to ashes}

Oldy but a goodie!
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: griffin131 on June 15, 2014, 07:49:12 AM
{Icy Manipulator}
Title: Re: Horobi Monoblack
Post by: PrEZchoICE1 on June 15, 2014, 11:30:07 AM
Hard to overlook {Rogue's Passage} it'll do double duty