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Title: question about commander
Post by: imFourth of Phils on March 07, 2014, 10:07:22 PM
based on the first text of {Phage the Untouchable}

do i lose if i cast her from command zone? thanks
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: MisterJH on March 07, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
Preliminary answer: based on the text id say yes indeed, anyone with more knowledge feel free to correct or support my answer


I think you may have found the worst possible commander ever o.o
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: imFourth of Phils on March 07, 2014, 10:27:22 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 07, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
Preliminary answer: based on the text id say yes indeed, anyone with more knowledge feel free to correct or support my answer


I think you may have found the worst possible commander ever o.o

hahahaha, thanks, was just wondering in that case, but i guess ill put her in deck instead, thanks :)
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: The1337Magician on March 08, 2014, 10:33:36 AM
As a commander, yes you lose.
BUT
I have seen a  {Sundial of the Infinite} deck using her as a commander. Pretty op.
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on March 08, 2014, 12:01:55 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on March 08, 2014, 10:33:36 AM
As a commander, yes you lose.
BUT
I have seen a  {Sundial of the Infinite} deck using her as a commander. Pretty op.
{Platinum Angel} works too.
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: MisterJH on March 08, 2014, 12:16:29 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on March 08, 2014, 10:33:36 AM
As a commander, yes you lose.
BUT
I have seen a  {Sundial of the Infinite} deck using her as a commander. Pretty op.
Wut? Wouldnt you still lose since she still must enter the battlefield? I thought itd be a statebased action that doesnt use the stack

Im not trying to be argumentative im just trying to better understand the game
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 12:31:06 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 07, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
Preliminary answer: based on the text id say yes indeed, anyone with more knowledge feel free to correct or support my answer


I think you may have found the worst possible commander ever o.o
Yes, you do lose the game if you cast her from the command zone. Yes, there are ways to circumvent this.

No, he hasn't quite found the worst commander ever, IMHO. That title, in my book, goes to {Haakon, Stromgald Scourge}.
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: MisterJH on March 08, 2014, 01:12:23 PM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 12:31:06 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 07, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
Preliminary answer: based on the text id say yes indeed, anyone with more knowledge feel free to correct or support my answer


I think you may have found the worst possible commander ever o.o
Yes, you do lose the game if you cast her from the command zone. Yes, there are ways to circumvent this.

No, he hasn't quite found the worst commander ever, IMHO. That title, in my book, goes to {Haakon, Stromgald Scourge}.
Touché, thats literally 100% useless.. Congrats to you haha
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: imFourth of Phils on March 08, 2014, 03:29:19 PM
{Torpor Orb} i guess
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: Sardok on March 08, 2014, 07:05:20 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 08, 2014, 12:16:29 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on March 08, 2014, 10:33:36 AM
As a commander, yes you lose.
BUT
I have seen a  {Sundial of the Infinite} deck using her as a commander. Pretty op.
Wut? Wouldnt you still lose since she still must enter the battlefield? I thought itd be a statebased action that doesnt use the stack

Im not trying to be argumentative im just trying to better understand the game

Phage's ability that causes you to lose the game will trigger when you cast her from the command zone. This is then placed on the stack.

You then use {Sundial of the Infinite} to end the turn and exile this ability from the stack.
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 08, 2014, 07:07:30 PM
If this weren't commander I'd say {Time Stop}+{Phage The Untouchable} for the same thing as Sundial because its funnier and less mana efficient. Thats how I roll
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 08, 2014, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on March 08, 2014, 03:29:19 PM
{Torpor Orb} i guess

Then haste and unblockable lol
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on March 09, 2014, 04:54:24 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on March 08, 2014, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on March 08, 2014, 03:29:19 PM
{Torpor Orb} i guess

Then haste and unblockable lol
{Hall of the Bandit Lord} + {Shizo, Death's Storehouse}/{Rogue's Passage}.
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on March 10, 2014, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 08, 2014, 01:12:23 PM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 12:31:06 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 07, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
Preliminary answer: based on the text id say yes indeed, anyone with more knowledge feel free to correct or support my answer


I think you may have found the worst possible commander ever o.o
Yes, you do lose the game if you cast her from the command zone. Yes, there are ways to circumvent this.

No, he hasn't quite found the worst commander ever, IMHO. That title, in my book, goes to {Haakon, Stromgald Scourge}.
Touché, thats literally 100% useless.. Congrats to you haha

I have to say that honour is a toss up between him and {general Jarkeld}
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: DYMongoose on March 10, 2014, 05:41:05 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on March 10, 2014, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 08, 2014, 01:12:23 PM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 12:31:06 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 07, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
Preliminary answer: based on the text id say yes indeed, anyone with more knowledge feel free to correct or support my answer


I think you may have found the worst possible commander ever o.o
Yes, you do lose the game if you cast her from the command zone. Yes, there are ways to circumvent this.

No, he hasn't quite found the worst commander ever, IMHO. That title, in my book, goes to {Haakon, Stromgald Scourge}.
Touché, thats literally 100% useless.. Congrats to you haha

I have to say that honour is a toss up between him and {general Jarkeld}

If that's a toss-up, I assume {Norin the Wary} is in the mix as well?
Title: Re: question about commander
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on March 10, 2014, 06:15:31 PM
He's actually pretty good with {purphoros, god of the forge}