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Title: Which to buy.
Post by: Shadow4ce on March 04, 2014, 05:28:09 AM
Hello!

I know this is a very vague question but I am trying to mass out my collection atm (I only have a couple hundred cards) and I was thinking of buying a 36 bosster box.

I myself am in love with black and am trying to build a black/blue or a black/green deck at the moment. (Suggestions to other colour combo's are welcome.).

Anywho, the question I have is which one should I get? The 2014 Core Set, Dragons Maze, Theros or Born of the Gods?

Thank you for your time <3

(Again, my apologies for the vague question, but am thankful for what feedback I can get.).
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: Galabranth on March 04, 2014, 05:34:30 AM
Uhh I think you should move this to the discussions forum... Although the 2014 Core Set/Theros is nice. But you might wanna try saving up on the older boxes/the new modern masters print.
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 04, 2014, 05:36:19 AM
The question is: what are you trying to do with your collection:

I collect each set and binder it before I play with the cards of the set

I recommend buying a box of whatever set, keep in mind that if you intend to play with the card pool from the box, you may want to consider buying Theros or Born of the Gods since the other sets available will rotate out this coming fall.

Or

If you're making decks, use this app or another deck building app, create preferred deck, buy cards. It can cost a lot less than buying a box or two hoping to get your needed list.
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: Pi on March 04, 2014, 02:01:25 PM
Be careful with born of the gods. The set is tiny and you end of with play sets of every common.
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: Rass on March 04, 2014, 02:22:37 PM
Just a suggestion maybe look at an event deck. The BotG one is black. Looks interesting I will be picking two up in the near future.

Google event decks just to check some out.
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 04, 2014, 03:00:14 PM
BoG event decks are sold out at my LGS - they also have em cheaper than other places (25 not 30)
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: ibtrickey on March 04, 2014, 04:48:45 PM
I recommend older sets also unless you want to stay with standard play?
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: Langku on March 04, 2014, 06:40:18 PM
If you're going to shell out for a booster box I think it's more worth your while to get 4x complete common and uncommon sets on ebay and use the other 70 or so dollars to buy a couple killer rares.

http://bit.ly/1fYFVTh
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: DylanW18 on March 04, 2014, 06:50:08 PM
If you're only standard play, Return to Ravnica seems to have the best value still, even though {Deathrite Shaman} is at half price due to his recent ban in the Modern Format. Here's a break down.

Return to Ravnica:

{Steam Vents}, {Overgrown Tomb}, {Blood Crypt}, {Hallowed Fountain}, {Temple Garden}. All should be around $10 for their extended value in any format . {Sphinx's Revelation} is played in standard, but some modern USA builds still run 1 or 2 I believe. Probably $10 after rotation. {Deathrite Shaman} is also $10, but I forsee them unbanning him in a few years, just like {Bitterblossom}, causing his price to go to $30+. {Jace Architect of Thought} and {Vraska the Unseen} are both going to drop. Not just for the reprints in Jace vs Vraska, but also because they are not played in other formats besides EDH. Because Jace is Jace, I forsee $7-$9 after rotation. {Vraska the unseen} will be about $4. There's also {Desecration Demon}, but he will drop back to $1 post rotation. Also {Abrupt Decay}, easily $20 post rotation for Legacy BUG.

Gatecrash: Has the other 5 shocklands, {Sacred Foundry}, {Watery Grave}, {Stomping Ground}, {Godless Shrine}, {Breeding Pool}. Now, Gatecrash was notorious for their shocklands being at a lower printing rate. That means you have a less chance of pulling them. Plus, Return to Ravnica has 2/3 of the USA shocklands, the top 8 modern deck currently. But, Gatecrash does have 2/3 of the shocklands for Jund, which if {Deathrite Shaman} gets unbanned, will become very good again. Thing is, DRS is still in Return to Ravnica, so if he did become unbanned, it would still be better to buy RTR. GTC also has {Obzedat Ghost Council}, at $7. There's {Boros Reckoner}, anywhere from $10-$20, depending on the month. Neither of these have extended value. That's all I see in GTC.

Dragonsmaze: All that's here is {Voice of Resurgence} and {Blood Baron of Vizkopa}. Yes, all 10 shocklands are printed in this one, BUT, has the least success rate in pulling them! RTR you get 3-4 per box. DGM you get 0-2. Voice holds extended value at $10ish, not %100 sure there, and Blood Baron will drop to $5-$10.

M14: {Scavenging Ooze} has $20-$30 value post rotation, as does {Archangel of Thune}. Still not a reliable set.

Theros: I see nothing in this set that will hold value when it leaves.

Born of the Gods: {Brimaz, King of Oreskos} holds Legacy value at $5-$10.


Honestly, no set right now has the worth to buy a box. The only set I can think of that's worth it's price is Innistrad. (Hello {Snapcaster Mage}, {Geist of Saint Traft}, and {Liliana of the Veil}. {Delver of Secrets} is dirt cheap, but still viable in every single format.)

But 100%, DONT BUY BOXES. Buy what you need! Buying a box is awful. You'll spend $100+ and get $40 of cards at most. Just buy the really good cards from each set and you won't be wasting your money ;)
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: Dmreiss on March 04, 2014, 07:39:00 PM
Above is about the best breakdown of values that I have seen.

I do have to say there is a certain joy in cracking packs though when doing a draft or such with friends.

If it is standard I would buy Ravnica.  Has the best value and is s available at a fair price.

Innistrad will climb in price and is not standard legal if that matters to you.
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: particle on March 04, 2014, 07:55:09 PM
i agree except you forgot {mutavault} for m14.
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 04, 2014, 08:24:00 PM
{Kalonian hydra} ain't bad either

Much better than past hydra mythics IMO
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: DylanW18 on March 04, 2014, 09:42:57 PM
Yeah, {Mutavault} I forgot about, $40 post rotation probably. As for {Kalonian Hydra}, he will only see EDH play. $6-$7. Like {Primordial Hydra}
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: adventus on March 04, 2014, 10:02:46 PM
If you are just getting started and want to build a usable card pool, I'd suggest buying from the core sets.  These cards are made specifically for newer style players using the standard mechanics.  They also include reprints of useful cards from previous sets.

Buying the deck builders toolkit would also be a good place to start.
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: Phoenix X30 on March 04, 2014, 11:17:24 PM
Deck builders toolkit.
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: Dmreiss on March 04, 2014, 11:30:59 PM
Toolkit and the core sets hold their value the worst. The other sets would give better value. Mutavault is the only card that will hold its value from the set.
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: Wally on March 04, 2014, 11:58:57 PM
{Thougtseize} is one card that springs to mind with theros.
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: GamenDork on March 05, 2014, 01:02:07 AM
I don't recall the shock lands being printed in Dragon's Maze?
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: DylanW18 on March 05, 2014, 01:27:37 AM
Yeah there's Thoughtsieze, probably $10-$15 after rotation.


And yes Shocklands are in DGM, (no surprise you haven't seen one though ;) ), but the symbol on them is either RTR or GTC respectfully
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: Rass on March 05, 2014, 08:25:34 AM
Quote from: GamenDork on March 05, 2014, 01:02:07 AM
I don't recall the shock lands being printed in Dragon's Maze?

Yes had a chance to get one where the guild gate is. I opened two boxed and seen zero of them.
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: Johng4490 on March 06, 2014, 01:32:57 AM
Quote from: Rass on March 05, 2014, 08:25:34 AM
Quote from: GamenDork on March 05, 2014, 01:02:07 AM
I don't recall the shock lands being printed in Dragon's Maze?

Yes had a chance to get one where the guild gate is. I opened two boxed and seen zero of them.
ironically, I got two shocks from the cheap 6 card boosters. I think I saw one out of a typical DGM booster.
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: Tonygrabowski4 on March 06, 2014, 07:09:34 AM
Just get a box of Alpha!  Then send it to me. :)
Title: Re: Which to buy.
Post by: Rass on March 06, 2014, 05:12:52 PM
So what did you do?